The Reds turned their first triple play in over 21 years, but the Reds fell 4-2 in Yankee Stadium. The Reds offense was dominated by Yankees starter Jordan Montgomery, and didn’t get a hit until the 6th inning.
The Reds made a run late. Billy Hamilton hit an RBI-double in the top of the 8th to cut the lead to 3-2. Zack Cozart was at first base at the time, and his quad injury likely prevented him for scoring the tying run. Eugenio Suarez struck out with runners on second and third to end the inning.
The Reds are now 2-10 to start the second half.
| Final | R | H | E |
|---|---|---|---|
| Cincinnati Reds (41-59) | 2 | 3 | 0 |
| New York Yankees (52-46) | 4 | 8 | 0 |
| W: Montgomery (7-5) L: Castillo (1-4) S: Chapman (12) | |||
| FanGraphs Win Probability | Statcast | Box Score | Game Thread | |||
Biggest Play of the Game
According to Fangraphs WPA statistic (winning percentage added), the most important play of the game was Eugenio Suarez striking out to end the inning in the top of the 8th, stranding runners on 2nd & 3rd. Yankees lead 3-2. That play decreased the Reds chances of winning by 14.9% (from 28.2% to 13.3%).
Positives
Todd Frazier stepped to the plate with the bases loaded in his first ever plate appearance against the Reds (which also happened to be his first ever PA as a Yankee at Yankee Stadium). Frazier proceeded to ground into a triple play. It was the first triple play for the Reds since September 12th, 1995 (Jeff Branson to Bret Boone to Hal Morris).
Todd Frazier's first home at-bat at Yankee Stadium… could've gone a little better pic.twitter.com/SnuU5HUowF
— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) July 25, 2017
Luis Castillo pitched OK tonight. He only allowed 1 extra base hit, but gave up 3 ER in 5.0 innings. Several of the hits Castillo allowed were weak singles tonight. Castillo only struck out 2 batters tonight. His previous low in strikeouts for a game was 5.
Billy Hamilton had an RBI double in the 8th inning.
Eugenio Suarez made a brilliant play at 3B in the 5th inning. Suarez had a weak grounder hit to him with runners on the corners, and 1 out. Suarez’ only choice was to bare hand the ball, and he did. Suarez threw a perfect strike home while on the run for a big out.
Jose Peraza walked tonight! It was Peraza’s first unintentional walk since May 21st. Congrats to Jose on this monumental accomplishment!
Drew Storen pitched a perfect inning with two strikeouts.
Negatives
The Reds didn’t get a hit until the 6th inning, and only had 3 hits for the entire night. Joey Votto went 0 for 4, and is now just 5 for 39 since the all-star break. Votto still has 10 walks since the break, so he is still getting on base more than half of the team.
Zack Cozart pitch hit in the 8th inning. He reached on a fielder’s choice. Billy Hamilton later hit a double that if anyone other than Cozart was running, would have tied the game. Cozart looked so bad rounding the bases that Cozart had to be pinch-run for by Robert Stephenson, and the Reds had to lose the DH because they were out of position players who could play SS.
Michael Lorenzen gave up a home run to former Red, Didi Gregorious.
Not so random thoughts………..
Zack Cozart: It is going to be pretty difficult for the Reds to find any team to give substantial value for a guy who can barely run the bases right now.
Dellin Betances walked two batters and gave up a run. He entered tonight with a 2.62 ERA, and exited the game to boos. Why anyone would want to play in NYC is beyond me.
Up Next:
Reds at Yankees
Wednesday, 1:05 PM
TV: FOX Sports Ohio, MLB Network* (out of market only)
Homer Bailey (8.56 ERA) vs Luis Severion (3.21 ERA)
All statistics are used courtesy of Fangraphs, ESPN Stats & Info, and Baseball-Reference.
Tough crowd.
Guess Price didn’t realize Cozy couldn’t run.
Yes he did. That is why he did no start. Notice some were blasting . Price because he did not start Cozart. Finding fault in some decision by another person is easy.
Let’s move away from manager decisions as why the Reds might lose 100 games. This team has major flaws. The pitching is terrible. Despite moments of hope most of the time pitching disappoints. There is no position where the Reds have the best player at any position. The closest is Votto but Goldschmidt, Freeman, Rizzo , Bellinger are either close or even better. The rest of the Reds, ex Cozart & Suarex are a bunch of nice AAAA players. Until the draft produces some real studs the outlook is bleak. Winker, the slow corner outfielder with zero power is not the answer.
Scooter is a decent player on a absolute hot streak. Duvall was leading the NL in extra basehits about 2 weeks before the break. They have some talent but Price isn’t maximizing it. Why not put Peralta in yesterday when it was a 1 run in the 7th?
I get that Price would be the scapegoat, but what I don’t understand it that the Price defenders always say the manager doesn’t make that much difference. Well if thats the case, then why all the ardent defending for a position that doesn’t matter? If someone knew takes your McDonalds order tomorrow does it really matter? The truth is that it does matter!! Terry Francona took a team minus 2 of their top 3 starters and their top hitter and still was within a run of winning it all. The Reds are going to need a strong analytical guy that overachieves and not a former pitching coach that can’t manage a pitching staff. Any idiot should know that the 3rd time a team sees a pitcher in a game then they start to zero in on the tiring starter. What does dummy do? He leaves Adleman in to go from a respectable 6ip, 3 er to 6.1 ip and 5 runs.
knew? someone new….jeez.
The same Terry Francona whose record over his first 4 years as a manager looks very similar to Bryan Price’s? The same Terry Francona who oversaw the greatest collapse in history with the 2011 Red Sox? That’s your example of a manager ” that matters?”
Let’s assume after 4 losing seasons Price is fired…..the 4th season in particular had moments of optimism yet ended with 97 losses in a dreadful finish.
No reasonable person would argue that firing him wasn’t justified…..and amazingly things shake out in such a way that next year Price is managing the Dodgers…and they have 8 solid years and win a couple of titles. Would your opinion on Price change…or did he just happen to be the manager and that success was almost certain to occur anyway?
The absurd hypothetical I just described is basically what happened to Terry Francona
If the manager doesn’t matter the Reds should hire you or me for 1/10th the cost of Price and apply that money toward better bench players.
Evaluate the manager based on their use of their given resources, not by comparisons with those who have experienced success without evaluating how well Francona or Madden uses their resources. Compare Price with some managers who failed miserably without any future redeeming success, too, if you want to give Price an objective pass for his stupid decision making; show why you think Price will become smarter in the future to avoid having a lousy future managerial record as well. There are many more managers who managed their resources poorly than managed them well if only because it has taken those in charge of baseball many many years before realizing how poorly prevailing thoughts existed until analytics were applied to the game.
Well said !!! This x 1000
Price makes about 1 million per year so the cost savings of hiring you for 100k doesn’t pay for much. Given that managers don’t unilaterally make any franchise altering decisions you would likely win/lose about as many games as Price. …..given the same level of talent, Joe Maddon would also win about as many games as Price.
I don’t think Price will become “smarter” in the future…….though if he manages a team with better talent he will certainly seem “smarter”. Some guys happen to be at the right place at the right time and some aren’t. If Sparky Anderson had taken over the 1970 San Diego Padres he likely dies as a car salesman in Burbank. Had he been retained, Dave Bristol likely has a statue and is in the HOF.
Joe Torre had a losing record over his first 13 years as a manager and then became “smarter” once he inherited the 1996 Yankees. Joe Torre and Sparky Anderson were baseball’s Mega Millions winners.
Bruce Bochy seems to alternate between smart and dumb every other year….how is that even possible? Sparky Anderson won 102 games in year 1 and lost 103 in year 20…..did he regress as he became more experienced? How did Lou Pinella’s fire and intensity serve those 100 loss Devil Rays? Casey Stengal pre and post Yankees has a record that Bryan Price could laugh at……
Price makes all kinds of idiotic mistakes……so does Joe Maddon…..they all do.
I’m not a fan of Price….I think he’s irrelevant.
You could run with this and save a lot of time “You want to fire Price and get a new manager? Why not? Its irrelevant”
I don’t immediately fire out several paragraphs defending something that I deem as irrevelant…but that’s just me.
Other than the triple play, the highlight of the game for me was Peraza’s walk in the eighth inning.
The entire situation with Cozart in the 8th inning left a bad taste in my mouth. I understand using him as a PH. I don’t understand on two levels why he was left in the game to run the bases. At the immediate level, they needed a runner who could score from 1st in the event of an extra base hit. At a second level more important than who won or lost a meaningless (for the Reds) game, Cozart was put into a situation where he was more likely to aggravate his already injured quad at a time when the Reds are supposedly trying to trade him in the next 5 days.
Earlier Tuesday RLN ran a post about the opportunity cost of carrying the third catcher all season. Well, if Cozart comes up injured and untradeable, add this to the top of the list. All season long, we have seen the team “shorten” the already short bench (3rd catcher) even more when they felt they needed an additional bullpen arm. Did it occur to anyone that since they were playing 3 consecutive DH games, it might be a prudent idea to follow suit and do as many AL teams do; shorten the bullpen in favor of an additional bench player? End rant.
The Reds handling of Zack Cozart has been completely indefensible and driven solely by the All-Star Game/Donkey PR Gold.
Through May 12th, Cozart started 31/35 games, a roughly 143 game pace. On 5/12, he played all 17 innings of a game of a game on the west coast (sound familiar?). He sat the next 3 days (2 games), and then from 5/16 – 6/12 he started all 20 games in 21 days. He came out in the 6th inning on June 12, missed 3 more days ( 2 games), started on 6/16 and 6/17 and then went on the DL.
He came off the DL on June 30th literally so he could start in the ASG. This isn’t even debatable, the Reds actually admitted it. The 4 games before last night were the first time he had started 4 games in a row since coming off the DL. Now the Reds have ruined their ability to trade him, just as they did with Scott Feldman and his knee.
Next time the Reds want to give fans the opportunity to see a donkey at the stadium, they should just parade around the front office instead of buying a farm animal.
Not only do the Reds need to figure out which of these youngsters can pitch in 2018, but need to make sure they figure out which pitchers can pitch consistently in the bullpen as well. I don’t really trust B Wood. Jury out on Tony C.?? I don’t think he can pitch in the major leagues by primary relying on his fastball 90 to 95% of the time. Also…the Reds not hitting at all right now. You know Pitchers will make adjustments to different teams, as the year goes along. Reds Hitters need to make adjustments as well as the year goes along.
Just another “good” loss…
With Nunez going to Boston, the market for Cozart seems essentially gone. Put him on the DL, at least for 10 days, if not longer. Give Peraza a chance to walk again before the season is out, and find a way to rotate a 4-man outfield with Winker in the mix. I think Cozart’s big time FA contract is diminishing, given the fact that he hasn’t been able to stay on the field post-injury. The “mutual interest” in an extension may be justified, and it may be the kind of gamble the Reds need to take, if the terms are reasonable.
That wouldn’t be bad for the Reds but I’d rather move Suarez to SS. Senzel is coming pretty fast. I think they could roll him out in late April and see what happens? Cozart’s body is just breaking down and it could be another $20 mil down the drain for nothing.
If $18 million would be the qualifying offer, then I agree, much as I like Cozart, that is way to rich for my budget.
Just another loss in typical fashion.Don’t score much unless we hit homers.I tuned in late last night to see how Castillo did and to see how many hits we had.Actually Billy was at bat in the eight and when he first hit the ball I thought it may go out then when it didn’t I thought tie game.Then reality set in Billy with a homer or Cozy scoring from first wasn’t ever going to happen.We can discuss all day long about Price and never agree on if he is a good manager or not.I personally think he could win a bunch of games with the Nats or Dodgers but so could anybody else.He just has to go because we just has to go in my opinion.He may end up managing a great team and turn in to a Hall of Famer but lets just move on from him.
Pretty nice start for Castillo all in all. Love the composure, many of the hits were fluky, and you can’t help but like the easy gas and the changeup.