The Reds just announced that they are promoting assistant general manager Dick Williams to general manager. Walt Jocketty will remain as President of Baseball Operations.

L-to-R: Phil Castellini, Dick Williams, Walt Jocketty, Bob Castellini

L-to-R: Phil Castellini, Dick Williams, Walt Jocketty, Bob Castellini

Williams is 44 years old and has worked for the Reds for 10 years. Last year was his first as assistant GM. Walt Jocketty referred to Williams’ promotion as a succession plan. Jocketty, who will be 65 by Opening Day, has one more year on his contract with the Reds.

Reasons for optimism: The first upside of today’s move is that someone other than Kevin Towers is next in line. The Reds have hired a youngish assistant GM. This transition might be a kinder, gentler version of the one Milwaukee just made with their former GM Doug Melvin. The Brewers gave Melvin the title of President of Baseball Operations and let the world know they were looking for a younger, more analytics-oriented GM to run the club. They hired 30-year-old David Stearns. There is reason to believe that Williams is more inclined towards analytics. Doug Gray found this in the Reds 2015 Media Guide bio of Williams:


You can hear a long Q&A with Dick Williams answering questions about the Reds on when he was the guest of C. Trent Rosecrans. That took place before he had become assistant GM, when his focus was more on the business side. His background was private equity and investment banker out of college. He allows himself to be described as having a “sabermetric bent” and didn’t mention the name Willie Taveras at any point in the hour.

On the downside: The Reds have once again hired from within. More inbred thinking. More narrowness in vista. No (apparent) search for talent from beyond the insider-friendly confines of Joe Nuxhall Way. Williams benefitted from preferential treatment with the Reds on day one. He got his first job with the Reds because his father and uncle bought part ownership of the club in 2006. “I didn’t deserve the job at the time.” (9:47 mark of audio)

Bottom Line #1: Whether or not Jocketty keeps his grip on decision-making this year, we have a pretty good idea of who will be calling the shots a year from now. In the abstract, this is progress — a more open-minded analytical person in place.

Bottom Line #2: We have no idea whether Dick Williams has shown promise to be a great major league general manager or whether he has simply risen to the top of a small pond of nepotism. Let’s hope it’s the former. It looks like the Reds future will depend on it.

[Update: It’s clear from the flurry of interviews this afternoon that what happened is the Reds chose their leader for 2017 and beyond. Today’s announcement is not about change in the way the team will operate in 2016. Both Jocketty and Williams have said that 2016 will be more of the same. But what the Reds did do is tap the guy who is going to follow Jocketty as their #1. That’s the real news today.]

80 Responses

  1. Kurt Frost

    I can’t help but think this is rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.

    • doctor

      seems like it but like stated in article, its someone besides Towers. Of course, the implied nepotism is not attractive either.

    • greenmtred

      Those deck chairs are an odd metaphor: It was cold on the North Atlantic. Nobody sat in the deck chairs. Why rearrange them? Wise underlings tend to be cautious about expressing their disagreements with the status quo, so the guy being promoted from within doesn’t necessarily mean much. Time–a fair amount of it–will tell.

  2. Jeff

    Could be both Steve. The real test will be when he is no longer under Jocketty’s thumb.

  3. Obc2

    the analytics don’t mean a thing if it ain’t got that swing..

    bottom line, Reds need to hit grand slams the next 3-4 amateur drafts when they should have top 5, nay top 3,overall picks in first rd.

    also, start the fire sale.

    • Bryan E

      If there is one place where the Reds have excelled, it is in drafting well in the early rounds. I’m worried about their handling of the trade market.

      • Obc2

        it’s been 27 years since Reds selected a superstar in 1st round.

        Votto would qualify as superstar, but Leatherpants drafted him.

        Cueto is a superstar, but Dan O’Brien signed him.

        Bruce and Homer were last two upper tier blue chippers. If memory serves, Kriv selected both.

        I’ve been completely underwhelmed by Walt’s draft selections. I do, however, think last year’s selection of Stephenson was an A+ choice.

  4. Dan

    complainers hated Baker….. then they hated Price
    Sans for Jocketty….. Williams doesn’t stand a chance of being liked with a Reds fan base that expects the team to actually be competitive against the likes of St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Chicago, and Milwaukee.

    Unless a gaping hole opens up and swallows 2 of the above cities the Reds will be basement dwellers for a long long time….. regardless of who the owner, President, and the GM is.

    • Jeremy Conley

      Care to give any additional reason that the Reds will be in last place for a long long time other than that they play in a division with 4 other teams?

    • DHud

      I know, right?

      How absurd that sports fans expect their favorite team to be competitive. I mean it’s not like it’s their job to put a good product on the field for fans to watch… Selfish, foolish fans…

    • greenmtred

      Something truly unsavory must have found its way into your cornflakes, Dan.

  5. Steve Mancuso

    Based on an interview with Jocketty and Williams a few minutes ago: This is a transition promotion. Jocketty will serve out the last year of his contract as President of Baseball Operations. He is negotiating a two-year deal to become an advisor to the club. (That’s similar to Doug Melvin, as I suggested in the post).

    Starting with 2017, Dick Williams will be in charge of baseball operations for the Reds. They view this as an “education and develoment” season for Williams, to get him and outsiders used to the idea that he is the general manager. Williams has been “being groomed” for this job for years.

    Jocketty said he doesn’t expect the way the team operates to change this year (what a relief).

    So 2017 going forward, the Reds baseball operations will be led by the son of two of their owners. Hope he does a good job. He’ll be hard to fire.

    • ohiojimw

      Or the other side of the coin is that he can always fire himself 🙂

      Once the basic announcement was made, this was so predictable I said over on the Chapman thread what was going to happen then saw this thread had opened and found out they had said so publicly.

      Now I’m guessing that WJ could well be entirely out of the saddle well before the year is up. It probably has more to do with Williams feeling comfortable with the full range of the controls than the “negotiations” for WJ’s future status.

      To see how the course is being set, we need to keep an eye out for who Williams brings into the org and whether the WJ cronies start leaving.

    • Bob Purkey

      Why should this be a transition? Just what would an Asst GM be doing over the past few years that wouldn’t be “grooming” for the GM position? Sounds like a lot of crap to me. If he isn’t ready(and it kind of sounds that he isn’t), then go get somebody that is, NOW!

      • Steve Mancuso

        I’m sure Wayne Krivsky does.

      • lwblogger2

        Willing to bet he updated his resume that day.

  6. larry papania

    There is no doubt that both B C & W J will need to approve any moves that the new G M proposes in 2016. My hope is that he makes his own choices in 2017, and uses sabermetrics in those decisions, and adds more saber geeks to the front office staff.

  7. WVRedlegs

    A small step when a giant leap was needed.
    Baby steps, at least in the right direction can’t be bad I hope. He seems to have done good jobs when assigned those within the Reds.
    Much more important though is, what is his take on 2 and 3 year contracts for bullpen specialists?
    What kind of bench players will he look to sign? One’s with grit, or one’s that hit?
    What kind of players will he look for to re-plenish/re-tool or re-boot with the 25 man roster? K-Byrds or birds of the same feather (OBP), but have no Cardinal in them?
    We’ll see how it all plays out this fall and winter. And he is well in place before the GM meetings and the Winter meetings which come up soon.

  8. ncmountie1

    I take this as encouraging. YES it is an inside promotion, but one doesn’t come from the financial/private equity field without a high degree of analytical thinking. I see this as a good thing. Confused Steve by your statement-2 owners sons running–Dick William & who–Phil C?

    • Steve Mancuso

      yep – and in Dick Williams case, the son and nephew of owners

  9. lwblogger2

    This move isn’t quite as bold as what I would have liked to have seen but I feel it is certainly a step in the right direction.

  10. Ryan Lykins (@ryan_lykins)

    Glad to see a change but I’m a little unsure of the time of it. Did Jocketty just up and decide for whatever reason he didn’t want to be the GM next year? And if it’s just a transition year and Jocketty still has final say over everything then what’s the point now? If he’s been being groomed for this position as they say then why does he need a full season for “education and development”? Shouldn’t he already have somewhat of a clue? Seems like every other team can get a new GM and that guy does just fine without having to have a full season of “education and development”.

  11. Mark

    I can only hope he loves numbers. Like obp or hwrisp. Walt won vs. KC and Miami with the trades. Hopefully Walt can win vs. one more team in a Bruce trade and give Dick a chance to do something

    • lwblogger2

      He’s likely to get more out of a Chapman trade. Right now, I don’t think the Reds should expect much more than salary relief for Bruce. If I was a GM that had a corner outfield need (sort of like my O’s do), I’d be calling the Reds about Bruce. I don’t think I’d be offering much of a prospect though unless the Reds wanted to kick in some money though.

      • [email protected]

        And that is exactly why Bruce will not be traded

        He is worth a lot more to the Reds than they could get in return

        This team does not need salary relief, it needs players

        There is not a free agent better than Bruce who would come to Cincy

  12. CP

    There are some positives, but it sounds like title inflation to me. It depends on Williams’ actual level of authority, which we won’t know for a while.

  13. Peter Pond

    Interesting move. I hope DW has learned the baseball saavy that comes from working with a 3-time GM of the Year boss. He also brings the financial-business–analytics background to the table, the experience of working for the organization leading important projects like the Arizona Complex and the Dominican Academy (both state-of-the-art facilities). That is what I wanted from the guy in the front office. Some will always criticize any move this team does, forgetting that the ‘data driven owner’ claimed to be the model CEO is the SON of another former owner. Sigh.

    Kudos for WJ for making a well-planned succession without the side-show others have made. Now is up to Williams to do the job.

  14. Jeremy Conley

    The issue I have with this is that the Reds’ owners don’t seem to recognize that there is a problem. It feels like they think that things just didn’t go their way with injuries and that there’s a regular cycle for baseball teams to be good and bad. While some of that is true, it’s also clear that the current front office guys are not very good at putting together a team that can win.

    I don’t know this new guy at all, so I can’t comment on his potential, but I would feel better if they had cleaned house. At least then we could be sure that ownership saw that things needed to change.

    • Peter Pond

      As you say, you don’t know this new guy at all. It would only be fair to at least give him the benefit of the doubt. His resume talks about a guy not only educated on finances, contract negotiations and business, but also involved in baseball infrastructure development and working alongside the baseball dept. for 10 years.

      Look, no team changes overnight and for a while, yes, WJ will have a word on roster construction including trades, draft, etc in one of the most important offseasons in Reds history. The fact that under those circumstances a decision like this is made speaks high volume of a change of guard in the making.

      • Jeremy Conley

        I don’t know that it really speaks volumes. This kind of thing is happening all over baseball. No one really knows what the difference is between a President of Baseball Operations and a General Manager, and the roles are probably different in different organizations.

        This guy was made the assistant GM last year right? Did you think the last offseason was particularly good? Maybe he was helping with the deadline deals, maybe not.

        If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt, that’s for you to decide. I would have given an outside hire with a decent resume the benefit of the doubt, but it’s hard for me to do that for someone promoted from the inside of a failing organization.

        Maybe Dick Williams has been the lone voice of sanity the last few years, and if that’s so, it wont take many good moves for me to be happy he’s the GM and sing his praises. But given that he’s already been given one job with the Reds that he says he didn’t deserve, and that he was seemingly hand-picked by the same guy that hand-picked Skip Schumaker, I’m going to go ahead and doubt until he shows me something.

    • RedsFaninPitt

      I see this as potentially a very good thing for the future of the Reds. While we know very little about Williams, we know what is going on across MLB in that teams are making a giant leap toward more analytical thinkers in the front office. I think this is the Reds doing the same thing in their own way. This was initiated either by Jocketty deciding he wanted to move into a less stressful role as retirement approaches or the owner deciding that it was time to move in a new direction at this critical juncture (hugely important trades about to occur affecting the org. for years to come) without slighting his friend by just outright firing him.

      It will be interesting to see if Williams is given any freedom to do some housecleaning and/or building his own front office team. Could we see some other Assistant GMs hired by him? Could we see Tower and others be let go? Could we see the analytics dept enhanced? That as well as the impending trades that are likely to occur in the next 2 months will be very revealing as to changes in philosophy/strategy for building the new team.

      If we see other front office changes and different approaches in the trades, I think this likely means that Jocketty is more the figurehead coasting into retirement – saving face by avoiding outright dismissal. And, Williams is now the new decision-maker for the organization. If few other changes are made and trades are consistent with past Jocketty action, then we know that this was probably initiated by Jocketty and he still holds decision-making authority until his contract expires.

  15. DHud

    Below thoughts are my brothers perspective:

    “So awesome he’s out!

    But wait…. He’s not fired…..
    And the guy he trained takes over…..
    And he’s still around to talk…..”

    • lwblogger2

      Almost exactly what my father said!

  16. James

    As much as we’re ready to discard Jocketty (just as we were ready to get rid of Baker two years ago), it’s worth trying to look beyond the old school/new school, internal/external binaries and see the potential benefits of an internal hire. The current management changed the Reds for the better over the past decade, on balance. Now, an evolving management and leadership structure has to rebuild the team. I’m very interested to see what happens next. Here’s hoping they find a way that integrates best new practices alongside the things that have worked well fr the Reds over the past decade.

    • lwblogger2

      That’s kind of how my heart wants to look at it but my head is still skeptical. I do like that it appears the Reds are changing the organization structure of the team to be similar to other teams around MLB. I also am choosing to look at the Badenhop decision as a positive sign. A look at more traditional metrics suggested that Badenhop had a bad start to the season and then pitched much better as the year went on. A deeper dive that Steve did showed that he really didn’t improve much and overall, he wasn’t a very good reliever. Now, it could have clearly been a “save as much money as possible in 2016 move” but I’m hoping that the Reds analytical minds had a lot of input on the decision and that is poor peripherals are why his option wasn’t exercised.

  17. Peter Pond

    Getting better and better. And he’s a Cincy native.

    “Walt and I have collaborated now for eight years, we’re two different people with two different backgrounds and sometimes we have two different opinions to start with, but we bring different perspectives to the table, but we always talk them out and made decisions together,” Williams said. “Going forward, it’s hard for me to say (how we’ll be different), maybe I’ll come to different conclusions than Walt because I have a different skill set, but I know in the past, we’ve always talked things out and used our different perspectives and those of our staff to come to those decisions in the best interest of the franchise. I’ll have a lot of his influence in me, but I had a long career in the business world before that. I’ve got some of my own opinions on things, so I think it’ll be a blend of Walt’s influence and I’ll bring my own perspective.”

    • lwblogger2

      Yes, he’s mostly saying the right things.

  18. Ryan Lykins (@ryan_lykins)

    “We will be continuing to invest more and more in our analytics. That’s just the nature of the business right now. I’m very much a proponent of combining the analytics and the scouting to get to the right answer.”

    From the C.Trent story on Williams. He’s at least saying the right things.

    • vegastypo

      Bryan Price promised accountability, too. How has that ended up???

      When this new guy does something that makes me think he’s different from Walt, then I’ll be more interested.

      • Hotto4Votto

        And Walt stated he was looking for high-OBP guys to fill out the roster and LF this past off season. We know how that worked out….byrds of feather? Or will we actually see something other than talk.

        I’m hoping he’s being forthright in his comments, but I don’t have any trust in the FO to follow through, because they haven’t backed up their words with actions.

      • CP

        In both cases, the actions (“accountability” and acquiring high OBP guys) required enough money to 1) build a roster with depth; 2) acquire guys with on-base skills. You can’t bench a guy for poor performance if the 4th OF is Skip Schumaker or Brennan Boesch. You can’t participate in the free agent or trade markets in any meaningful way if you don’t have money.

      • Hotto4Votto

        You also can’t complain about not having money when you paid 6 million to Ludwick and Hannahan to not play for the Reds in 2015, or another million or so for Marquis and Gregg to suck. This year we’ve already paid 2 million to say goodbye to Skip and Badenhop.

        They could have also added guys other than Byrd, Dominguez, Boesch to the roster. None of those three fit the description of the guy they were supposedly looking for. But that’s who we were stuck with because that’s who Walt brought in. All in all Byrd’s 4 million and another million or so for Dominguez/Boesch probably could have addeed someone of value. Aoki signed for around that.

        It’s not a problem of money, it’s misappropriation on how it’s been used to form a roster.

        You can’t screw up a roster and then say “sorry I can’t fix it because of our limitations” when limitations are also your fault.

      • lwblogger2

        Honestly, I don’t think Aoki would have come to the Reds for the $$ he signed with San Fran for. It would have cost a little more. Of course we don’t know for sure but I know if I were in his position, I may have taken playing time and a chance to play for the defending WS Champions, over playing for the Reds.

      • CP

        All sunk costs. It’s completely fair to blame Price for bad game decisions, or WJ for misappropriating funds. But Price can’t hold players accountable if his roster isn’t set up correctly, yet fans constantly whine about holding players “accountable”.

        All GMs have misses, and it is fair to blame WJ for his. But he made the OBP comment after the fact. I think people are underestimating the amount of $ it takes to sign a good free agent hitter these days (also, go back and look at the list of free agent hitters from last offseason, it’s amazing how unproductive they were). WJ needed to trade for hitters to make a difference, and he really wasn’t in a position to trade their few valuable prospects.

      • Hotto4Votto

        LW – I believe you’re right that Aoki wouldn’t have come to Cincinnati. But I think it has less to do with playing time (we still needed a starting LF until later in the off season) and more to do with the large Asian market in SF. I believe he made comments as such. But he signed for 4 million. Colby Rasmus signed for 8 million. I post this as an idea of how much a good, every day OF’er was going for on the open market. The Reds had between 4-8 million dollars to spend this off season but they spent it on Byrd, Boesch, Dominguez, Marquis, and Gregg. Those five salaries (4+1.5+1.5+1.25+510k) equal out to just under 9 million.

        So we can’t say we didn’t have the money. We can only say we didn’t use the money we had wisely.

        CP – You’re right that the roster construction wasn’t Price’s fault. But I don’t get why he can’t still hold people accountable. In fact, I think it would send a stronger message to a player, that the manager is willing to play a worse player if that player is willing to play the game the correct way. Like say, someone like Negron.

        I grew up in NC and am a huge Tar Heel fan. Dean Smith, and now Roy Williams, wouldn’t hesitate to send in 5 walk-ons in the game if they were unhappy with how the blue-chippers were playing. It doesn’t matter who they’re playing or how important the game is, and it doesn’t matter if those 5 walk-ons get plastered in the few minutes they’re out there. If the star players aren’t willing to do things the way Coach wants them, they will sit. It’s been that way since I can remember and it is utilized at least a few times every year. It’s typically very effective.

        So if a starter goes up in a situation and is asked to work the count, and they swing away, they should sit. If someone gets picked off a base cause they were chatting it up with the other team, they should sit.

        You can’t say that there’s going to be strong accountability, only as long as we have good options. Otherwise it’s all lip service. Which is exactly what we’ve received from this organization recently.

      • lwblogger2

        As far as accountability I’ll mention one major difference about baseball and other sports. In baseball, once that player gets pulled, he’s out. You can’t put him back. Now, there are a lot more games in baseball and sitting one player in general will have less of an impact than in other sports, but that difference is still there.

        A benching used to piss me off and not necessarily make me play any better. Different motivational methods work for different players. If benched, I tended to stew on it and mope. Yeah, I was more immature then but for me at the time, it was a bad way to handle me.

      • Hotto4Votto

        You’re right LW, it’s a different game, and you bring up good points on both sides. There are more games, so sitting part of a game isn’t a big deal in the grand scheme of things, on the other hand the player can’t go back in and you potentially burn a PH or defensive replacement.

        And I agree, the manager should know his players and what motivates them. A bench may have ill effects on someone who has a bigger ego or is immature in general. There are other ways of keeping guys accountable though. There could be fines, or having them carry luggage at the airport, or take on extra work in the cages/on the field, do some extra film study.

        Either way, I think accountability is crucial to having control of the clubhouse, and it shouldn’t be based on the quality of the players who will be replacing them.

      • lwblogger2

        I think there’s a lot to be said for calling them out in the clubhouse or in the dugout. A lot of times, your teammates can do a pretty good job of holding you accountable to. The thing with that is just making sure things don’t escalate and you get a bad clubhouse culture. Call ’em out, tell them that’s not how we play the game. If the clubhouse doesn’t work than maybe say something in your press conference. You’re right, there are a lot of ways to hold players accountable.

  19. Chuck Schick

    I like that he is a non traditional baseball man. It takes more than having riden the bus in the Appalachian League and being the cross checker for the Motor Boat Jones signing to beat Theo Epstein.

    I like that he was an investment banker. They usually have sharp, analytical minds and hearts colder than a Red Army General. The Reds need both of those things right now. You can’t run a team like a local dry cleaner when your competitors are run like Goldman Sachs.

    He will be one of 2 diametrically opposite things:
    1. An analytically driven leader who surrounds himself with guys named Grady and Moose who understand scouting and development and a player development machine is created.
    2. He’s the idiot son of the co-owner who wasn’t deemed worthy to run a bond portfolio at Western Southern or manage an apartment complex in Atlanta.

    Let’s hope for #1.

    • lwblogger2

      I gotta have a “Scooter” and a “Pudge” on my staff… Maybe a “Gookie”, “Spanky”, or “Sticks” too 🙂

    • JB WV

      You had no chance with Lacy Underalls

      • lwblogger2

        One of the best character names ever.

  20. TR

    I wish the young Dick Williams all the best as he leads the Reds into the future. Although the name reminds me of the Reds teams in the 80’s when the Williams brothers, from Western & Southern Life Insurance, were the owners and Dick Wagner was the GM. Some of the worse Reds teams I can recall.

  21. WVRedlegs

    That photo above is certainly auspicious to say the least.
    The Reds brain trust, The Four Amigos.
    Big Bob Castellini doubling down on becoming Mr. Irrevalent in the NL Central.

    • ohiojimw

      Get used to it I guess. It looks like P.Castellini and D.Williams are the next generation of hands on ownership and their time to take the helm will be sooner as opposed to later.

      • WVRedlegs

        FWIW, they look like they are ready for the Easter parade. Not a one of them wearing red, nor a Reds wishbone C.

  22. jessecuster44

    New GM is related to the owners?

    When did my beloved Reds become the 1991-2004 Bengals?

    • Chris Garber (@cgarber8)

      Phil Castellini is related to the owner, as well. And by all accounts he does a great job on the business side. A second-generation family business may not be the very best model, but that doesn’t mean it always fails.

      • jessecuster44

        Mike Brown and family made a killing on the business side of things in the 1990s, but the team stunk. Color me skeptical, to say the least.

  23. Chris Garber (@cgarber8)

    On one hand, we have a pretty clear case of nepotism (at least back when he was first hired). On the other hand, that family is pretty darn successful, both in baseball and in business. And you have a guy who’s been pretty successful at making something of the advantages he’s had, and who seems to bust his tail.

    It’s interesting that nobody in the media has ever mentioned that Dick Williams was the heir apparent.

    Ultimately, I’m guardedly optimistic. I think he’ll be quite different from Walt — something that’s vital to the club’s future — and we’ll all find out how he measures up to the competition in Chicago, Pittsburgh, and St. Louis.

    • Obc2

      DW seems, by all accounts, a bright guy. that alone is room for optimism. I am a big proponent of hiring the smartest guys in the room, I don’t doubt he has that over Walt. (not being cruel, just my opinion)

      I also dig he is an instrument grade pilot. I can’t quantify it, but that takes guts, intelligence, and decisive decision making ability. I like that in leadership. plus, a desire to soar. he has me beat in those categories!

      let’s not sell the young man short until he deserves it.

    • Carl Sayre

      IMO he bcame heir apparent when BC decided WJ signed some very poor players to some very unfriendly deals.

  24. Michael E

    Hey, who knows, Dick Williams might be the best GM in baseball in 3 or 4 years and we’ll look back at this day as a key day in a long (for today’s game) dynasty where we make several World Series and routinely make the playoffs.

    You just never know. I don’t like Walt hanging around as an advisor, UNLESS Williams is a confident man and willing to take Walt’s advice and turn Sheldon Cooper on him “Good one boss, that’s funny” while doing a completely different deal.

  25. ncmountie1

    Well IMO he’s saying all the right things…
    “At the same time, we’re doing everything in our power to grow our analytics initiatives,” Williams said. “We’re right up there with the other teams. We don’t talk a lot about it because it really doesn’t get you anywhere to let information out there publicly. We will be continuing to invest more and more in our analytics. That’s just the nature of the business right now. I’m very much a proponent of combining the analytics and the scouting to get to the right answer.”

    “The direction doesn’t change. We want to win. I’m in this job to win a world championship. In the short term, we had a disappointing season and we have to take stock of that,” Williams said. “I think everybody is wrapping their head around what sacrifices we want to make going forward to get back to championship baseball. And we will get there. We’ve got a lot of good things coming in the minors. It’s just a question of putting the right pieces together at the right time.”

  26. TR

    The foundation is set for the rebuild with major coaching changes and a new GM. If the Reds are in the lower area of the NL Central come July, it looks to me like Riggleman will be in the managers office as interim skipper and WJ will be easing toward retirement as an advisor.

    • sezwhom

      I would tend to agree. I hope “they” give Price more to work with plus he gets a break from players getting injured but I’m not holding my breath. This team needs to reload so maybe they’re gearing up for Williams to plot the course.

  27. David

    To me this seems ridiculous. Just a month or so ago Jocketty said he isn’t going anywhere. Well fans have been calling for his head on a platter. This is his way of “leaving the GM” to “satisfy” the demands of the fans while actually changing nothing. It’s a cheap move and I don’t think anyone is being fooled by it. Just my 2 cents.

    • David

      Well, where is Walt going? To another office in the building? Still, Jocketty has been in the baseball business a long time, and part of his knowledge is he knows a lot of other baseball people. And they know him. I think part of the transition is to introduce the new GM in waiting to a lot of Walt’s baseball aquaintances. That’s worth a lot. This isn’t the analytics part, but basic empirical knowledge of your business. It does count for something, to get someone in a particular organization to take your call when you want to talk about a deal.

    • Steve Mancuso

      From the Jocketty side of this move, it doesn’t seem that strange. He has one year (2016) left on his contract and he will be 65 by Opening Day. It’s reasonable that he’s decided to make this his last full-time season.

      It’s possible the Williams promotion was just a less-abrupt way to get to a transition like the Brewers. Or maybe Jocketty is retiring because he’s ready to.

      Hardly matters now. For better or worse, we have status quo for another year and then Dick Williams running the Reds after that.

  28. jdx19

    At the minimum, this should stop the deluge of ex-Cardinals veterans in 2017.

  29. TR

    The Bengals have the daughter of the owner in the drivers seat, and the Reds now have a similar situation in the front office. Since the Bengals have now become a model NFL franchise, this setup could bode well for the Reds.