The Dodgers’ payroll is $271 million, spending $50 million on players who aren’t on their roster. That total is more than double what the Reds are spending ($115 million). One view of that gap is that payroll spending isn’t correlated much with winning. The other view is that the difference of $156 million would pay for six $25 million players. Joey Votto is making $14 million this year.

Reds 3 Dodgers 5 | FanGraphs | The future, Mr. Gittes, the future.

John Lamb, who went to high school 50 miles from Dodger Stadium, looked good the first four innings. He gave up one walk – to the Dodgers’ pitcher – and struck out six. He regularly had the L.A. hitters off balance.

The fifth inning was Lamb’s undoing, although he got a little unlucky with Justin Turner’s bloop single that would have ended the inning if caught. It landed about ten feet from Marlon Byrd. A faster LF would have caught it. Lamb rebounded in the sixth, retiring L.A. in order and finishing his six innings with his seventh strikeout. A positive debut.

Joey Votto had his knuckles aligned tonight, knocking in all three Reds runs with a double and home run. It was the first homer Alex Wood had given up to a left-handed hitter this year.

Brayan Peña made an athletic play (video) fielding a botched bunt attempt in the air and firing the ball to first base for a double play. Peña also threw out two Dodgers at second base attempting to steal.

Eugenio Suarez had one hit and two walks. The walks were a good sign since Suarez has been poor in that area so far. The Reds shortstop was on base for Votto’s double and home run.

Todd Frazier and Jay Bruce were a combined 0 for 8.

19 Responses

  1. Vicferrari

    I do not get the criticism of Suarez’s OBP when it is the highest on the team after Votto and the regular catchers, a lot of batters need to be called out before a rookie hitting .309

    • Vicferrari

      I see the point about the walk rate, I guess I extrapolated to OBP. I sort of feel like if he traded 10 hits for walks, then every body would consider this great despite the batting average going down and obp remaining the same. He seemed to have a decent walk rate in the minors, and I guess it seems a bit nit-picky for a 23 year old SS. I suspect he will adapt and the BABIP will go down as he walks more- hopefully the number will not

    • Vicferrari

      I probably read too much into it, thinking a guy with >800+ OPS surely would hurt himself by walking more. The argument makes more sense when the inevitable slump comes…hopefully the walk rate will increase when pitchers get tired of all the xtra base hit he gets.
      Just curious do the stats imply their is a nearly 20% less chance of scoring when drawing a walk as opposed to a single? Is this accounting for the runs they drive in or just if they score?

  2. Vicferrari

    Baseball is a funny game, he pitches around A Gon he might be looking at a win. Who knows what would have happened, but overall despite 5 ER very promising 6 innings- especially getting last 4 batters he faced

  3. mtkal

    Very impressed with Lamb despite the 5th inning in which his luck wasn’t the best. Loved the way he came back out in the 6th and finished off the outing. He’s a definite candidate for the rotation going forward.

    • Tom Gray

      Agree. He really only struggled in 1 inning out of 6 IP. And he threw 1 bad pitch.

      Not a bad debut considering that.

      • Ted Golba

        Actually, Lamb threw one BAAd pitch.

  4. Jay King

    Can Suarez play LF??? The guy has been hitting pretty well from what I have been seeing. I love Cozart at SS. Gotta find this guy a spot in the lineup on most days.

    • Tom Gray

      If Wally Post could play LF in 1961, then Suarez can play it in 2016.

      It remains to be seen if Cozart will be fully recovered in 2016. His injury was severe.

    • Scot Lykins

      I like Cozart’s defense at short myself, as well as Hamilton’s in center. But this team needs hitting. Both these positions were unproductive. ( I know Cozart started well this year, before getting hurt, but i do not think that was sustainable) No team can overcome three dead spots, (pitcher also), in the lineup.

      • sezwhom

        That’s true but out of a negative emerges a positive. We never would have seen Suarez if Cozart didn’t get hurt.

  5. Tom Gray

    That’s actually a good approach.

    1990 is the last time everything (regular season, playoffs, World Series) came together for the Reds. And that team had plenty of talent.

    Try this. 1981 = 2012 (similar 60% W-L record). 1983 = 2016 (sub .500 W-L but getting better). 1985 = 2018 (Reds competing for 1st in NL Central again).

  6. sezwhom

    I guess it’ll be a good dilemma to have going forward but the Reds have too many promising young pitchers. Something’s got to give via a trade or two for hitting.


    Bailey, Iglesias, Lorenzen, DeSclafani, Holmberg, Sampson, Stephenson, Lamb, Garrett, Finnegan, Moscot and maybe even Cody Reed in the mix. Should be interesting.

    • Tom Gray

      Of those listed, it seems that Iglesias, Desclafani, Stephenson, and maybe Lorenzen best fit the term Promising Young Pitcher. Possibly Reed also.

  7. Tom Reed

    I like the pace at which Lamb pitches. His steady rhythm and selection of pitches are positives. Pitchers take a while to mature, and Lamb could well be in the starting rotation in 2016.

  8. Victor Vollhardt

    The Dodgers,according to a article in the LA Times about a week or ten days ago (right after the three team trade), are paying 86.7 mil. to players to play for other teams or not at all. Some (26+ mil) was paid up front to a player (Olivera) in the form of a bonus. In that same trade the Braves gave up one of their top prospects–so that the Dodgers would take Arroyo’s Diamondback contract, but in that case the Dodgers are only on the hook for about 500 thousand of the money due Arroyo with the Braves paying the rest owed–with the top prospect’s. worth accounting for the rest of the contract.. Also look at their minor league double A and triple A rosters which have a lot of players with ML money due. Heisey is a good example- Blue Jays paying only a prorated portion of his minimum ML salary with the Dodgers paying the balance. Maybe those running the team are really smart or maybe they just keep trying anything (like the Padres), but what will happen eventually is that even a very rich ownership will tire of signing checks on the first and the fifteenth for players on other teams or in other leagues or home in bed.