The Cincinnati Reds (22-29) play to avoid a series sweep at the hand of the Philadelphia Phillies (21-33) tonight at Citizens Bank Ballpark. Aaron Harang gets the start for the Phillies against his former club.

2015 stats for tonight’s starters:

Anthony DeSclafani 3.41 3.94 0.6 10.2% 16.7%
Aaron Harang 2.02 3.08 0.5 5.3% 18.9%

Aaron Harang is having a great year with the Phillies. Signed to a one-year $5 million free agent deal in the offseason, Harang has had 10 quality starts in his 11 Philly appearances. In the month of May, Harang made six starts, pitching at least six inning in every start and allowing two runs or less in each outing. Three time he allowed exactly two earned runs, once he allowed one run, and twice he allowed no earned runs. In those six starts, he pitched 39 innings, allowed just three homeruns and had a 1.026 WHIP to go along with his 1.62 ERA.

Anthony DeSclafani has had back-to-back quality starts. In his last two starts, he’s allowed just three runs over 13 innings, allowed no homeruns, walked four and struck out seven.

Skip Schumaker takes a turn in left field today in the Reds starting lineup:

  1. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
  2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
  3. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
  4. Jay Bruce (L) RF
  5. Brayan Pena (S) C
  6. Zack Cozart (R) SS
  7. Skip Schumaker (L) LF
  8. Anthony DeSclafani (R) P
  9. Billy Hamilton (S) CF

Ben Revere returns to the Phillies lineup with Odubel Herrera getting the night off:

  1. Ben Revere (L) CF
  2. Jeff Francoeur (R) RF
  3. Chase Utley (L) 2B
  4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B
  5. Maikel Franco (R) 3B
  6. Cody Asche (L) LF
  7. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
  8. Carlos Ruiz (R) C
  9. Aaron Harang (R) P


Per ESPN Stats and Info, Aroldis Chapman’s blown save last night was his first blown save since last June, which snapped a streak of 29 straight save opportunities converted.

You don’t want your team to be the one to give historical games to another team. Which leads to this, also from ESPN Stats and Info:

Franco’s three-run shot tied the game at four in the bottom of the ninth. It was the first time the Phillies won after going scoreless and trailing by at least four runs entering the ninth inning since May of 1982.

According to Phillies GM Ruben Amaro in a Monday interview with CSN Philadelphia on the topic of fan response to the Phillies patient, conservative rebuilding plan:

“They don’t understand the game. They don’t understand the process. There’s a process. And then they bitch and complain because we don’t have a plan. There’s a plan in place and we’re sticking with the plan. We can’t do what’s best for the fan. We have to do what’s best for the organization so the fan can reap the benefit of it later on. That’s the truth.”

Although he clarified the next morning that his comments were only directed at “some fans” not “all Philadelphia fans.” By Tuesday afternoon, Amaro was apologizing:

“I probably used my words incorrectly or poorly,” Amaro said. “I want to apologize for that.”

“We have the most passionate fans, and I think that’s the beauty of Philadelphia,” Amaro said. “I would never intentionally disparage our fans — that’s not how I go about my business, that’s not what I feel is in the best interest of the organization. We’re fan-driven. This is an entertainment business, and we need the support of our fans, and we’ve gotten tremendous support. I apologize for the context or the words that I used.”

I’m tired of losing to the Phillies! I don’t know how the Reds sweep the Nationals and lose to the Phillies. To not be the worst, you’ve got to beat the worst. Hopefully the ol’ Redlegs can do that for us just one time tonight.


127 Responses

  1. RedAlert

    When are they going to try Mes in left field – 2 months from now when Uncle Walt thaws out from his frozen state

  2. Dr. K

    Enquirer reporting Meso will work in LF before his season is ended w surgery. Move, though, would only be temporary. Hopefully it goes well enough to be considered long term.

    • tct

      It’s dumb. The chances of the Reds making the playoffs are 1% or less. Get him healthy, then have him work on left field in the winter and in spring training.

      • Dr. K

        I’d be fine with that. I just want to see it tried. I agree that this season is a wash and the goal needs to be position the organization to be able to compete long term as soon as possible.

      • tct

        To clarify, didn’t mean your idea was dumb. I meant running him out there, trying to learn a new position when he is not healthy is dumb in a season that is almost certainly lost anyway.

      • Shchi Cossack

        If the Reds’ only intent regarding playing Mesoraco in LF is to make a run at the playoffs, I whole-heartedly agree that it’s just one more stupid move by Jocketty, compounded by putting Mesoraco through a bullpen session prior to his scheduled DH duties (maybe the most stupid move Jocketty has ever made). On the other hand, if the intent is to see how Mesoraco adapts to LF with an open mind to significant playing time in LF for the 2016 season, then getting a full half+ season in LF of actual game experience makes sense. Unfortunately, I suspect that WJ’s track record speaks for itself and the Reds are on the verge of just another stupid move.

      • ohiojimw

        There is no post surgery history for a professional catcher for this operation. If working him in LF isn’t going to make the hip worse, it seems to me like reasonable due diligence to see what he might bring to the table as an OF. After all if he has the surgery and still can’t catch or starts to relapse, the options are to play him in LF or trade him to the DH league given that Votto is signed for nearly the next decade.

      • Tom Gray

        Agree. Get him healthy first, then play LF.

        Yogi Berra started playing OF (particularly LF) about halfway through his NY Yankees career. Mesoraco is nowhere near Yogi Berra but C can play LF.

  3. Shchi Cossack

    DFA and release Marquis now. Sign David Aardsma to a major league contract now. At the trade deadline, prepare to flip any reliever with value. I would consider the same approach with claiming Jerry Sands, except possibly retain Sands for an OF placeholder or bench strength in 2016 rather than flipping him.

    • ohiojimw

      A team that releases a guy (Lutz) off the minor league DL versus moving him to the MLB 60 day DL to save the ~$400K difference in cost between the two moves isn’t likely to DFA Marquis until the value of his contract is considerable less than now.

      • Tom Gray

        Could not put Lutz on 60 Day DL. He wasn’t on active roster (or in spring training) when season ending injury happened. He (and Mike Magill) were both in Minors when their injuries occurred. Hence no 60 Day DL for either. Dumb MLB rule.

  4. Kurt Frost

    He’s right. Phillies fans are the worst.

  5. Tom Reed

    I find it hard to believe that Ruben Amaro is still the GM of the Phillies.

  6. seat101

    Would you all like some irony? If we have two more frustrating losses like the last two, which parenthetically were not the managers fault, the manager might get canned.

  7. vegastypo

    They won’t fire him anytime soon. Heck, he was just named an All-Star coach. I doubt Castellini want the PR nightmare of firing him now. The team’s lousy play is probably enough of a black eye.

    If you rebuild it, fans will come.

  8. vegastypo

    Nice of Welsh to pretty much acknowledge how bad the team is. I was beginning to think that nobody associated with the team would dare say such a thing in public.

  9. Jeremy Conley

    It’s nuts to me how slow the Mesoraco situation is unfolding to me. As soon as Steve M. posted his article on the injury, which was a long time back now, me and several others said “if he can run and hit, why not DL him, send him on a rehab assignment to the minors and have him work on LF?”

    How many games would we have won over the last 6 weeks if he’d been in left? I have no idea, but I bet it would be more.

    • jdx19

      Maybe someone in the Reds org is reading this website and it just takes weeks to convince the management of the right COA!

    • seat101


      You are correct. I wasn’t thinking things through. He pretty much has a get out of jail free card until after the All-Star game, doesn’t he?

      • vegastypo

        If he does survive until the All-Star Game, it will be interesting to see how much longer after that he is around. He could get the Jonny Gomes treatment. He was gone within a few days of his Bobblehead night at GABP. Team wasn’t gonna hold a bobblehead night for a player not even on the team!

  10. RedAlert

    Reds can’t even enjoy a lead for a half inning before torch on the mound gives it right back – getting lit up like a christmas tree –

    • CommonSense

      Yep, Jay Bruce is a GREAT outfielder.

  11. RedAlert

    amazing how Phillies can’t do squat against almost any other team in the league – yet completely own the Reds – especially at this park – Get a lead and freaking pitcher gives it right back the same inning – how many times has that movie played already this year –

  12. doublenohitter

    Anyone else noticed that every ball hit is “blooped”. I wish the Reds would “bloop” a few home runs.

  13. mtkal

    Seven pitch inning by Disco. Much better.

  14. mtkal

    Phils play by play guy just said “Cozart strikes out, and we’ll go to the bottom of the second inning”. The last two innings even put him to sleep I guess.

  15. vegastypo

    yeah, by all means, Welsh, Reds are trying to rally, so let’s go back to the cheesesteak

  16. jdx19

    I like how the Phils catcher didn’t know there was a force at home.

  17. jdx19

    Didn’t know you could challenge a judgment call like “blocking the plate.” Hm…

    • vegastypo

      It’s a stupid rule, but if they apply it as I believe it is worded, he should be safe.

      • magi210

        There really needs to be an amendment to that rule that allows the ump to say “The runner was clearly beaten by the throw.”

      • vegastypo

        Well, if the idea is to avoid contact, the base runner shouldn’t have to worry about sliding into the catcher’s gear unnecessarily. Chuck the whole rule.

  18. RedAlert

    Frazier has just flat out sucked with runners in scoring pidition this series – Has totally killed the Reds – getting no respect either –

    • Steve Mancuso

      Doubled in a runner from first base in the first inning. Does that not count because the runner wasn’t in scoring position? Example of one of the reasons that RISP is such a stupid formulation.

      • RedAlert

        Ok -, I came into game thread late on this one- not watching on TV – assumed he homered – however, for the most part he has indeed been bad in this particular series – and I still don’t like him in the 4 home any way you slice it

      • RedAlert

        On the other hand , not like they have a lot of other options with this roster

  19. jdx19

    Even the umps in NY don’t know how to apply the rule… geez. What a bad/weird rule.

    • jdx19

      Indeed. I would never have challenged that as manager.

  20. mtkal

    I think Ruiz thought they would try for the 2nd to 1st double play, and didn’t expect the throw. That rule just needs to go.

    • jdx19

      Well, it’s there to protect catchers from having their bones broken over and over. The catchers just need to learn how to play within the rule. Namely, don’t block the plate unless you have the ball. Stand in front of it or to the side.

  21. msanmoore

    Good thing we challenged and won … needed the run given the DP to end the inning.

  22. doublenohitter

    Wow, Reds can’t even take advantage of a huge break. bruce grounds into a DP on a 3-1 pitch with the bases loaded.

  23. Jeremy Conley

    Man, that’s rough. Frazier and Bruce both get up with the bases loaded and one out and neither can get the ball into the outfield.

  24. mtkal

    I wonder if the Reds kangaroo court fines players for getting an RBI via a walk.

  25. doublenohitter

    Just saw this. Nothing we haven’t said on here already.

    “As currently constituted, the Reds — 22-29 and 12 games behind the Cardinals in the NL Central — are a loser. They are not going to win the division, and they’re almost certainly not going to contend for the wild card.”

    • CommonSense

      Sorry, we posted this almost simultaneously. I have Insider access. See below at my post on what he said.

  26. CommonSense

    But hey, Jay Bruce was hot for two weeks.

  27. Indy Red Man

    LOL….Babe Cozart hacking 3-0 with nobody on base…..would’ve been ball 4 of course. Got lucky and walked anyway

  28. mtkal

    What are the credentials of the Reds’ hitting instructor? Typically, to batting coaches talk hitting strategy with players, or just help with swings when asked? Maybe it’s just me, but so often it seems the Reds’ players are just up there swinging with no real thought about the game situation or anything. I know it’s way harder than it looks, but it looks more like that with the Reds than other teams to me.

    • Indy Red Man

      It is worse with the Reds….don’t know how many times I saw Stubbs hacking away on 2-0 when he should be trying to work the pitcher and get a walk. Everyone is like that pretty much except Votto and maybe this years version of Jay Bruce

    • jdx19

      I’m convinced hitting instructors are useless, universally. All I’ve ever heard any of them say is weird stuff like “stay inside the ball” or “stay around the ball.” Ok, hitting coach. That’s what my little league coaches told me.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        Charley Lau changed the game for hitters.

  29. Indy Red Man

    Once again the Reds had bases loaded 1 out w/their 3 and 4 hitters up and needed a brain cramp from Ruiz to get 1 run.

    Big 2 out hit from Billy though!!! He’s been pretty decent from the 9 hole

  30. jdx19

    BP is riding some kind of hot streak. Geez! Let it continue forever.

  31. Indy Red Man

    Trade BP to the Rangers or somebody? He’s on fire but he’ll look like Edgar Renteria by the time the Reds are contenders again

  32. jdx19

    BP sure doesn’t look like a guy with turf toe!

  33. CommonSense

    Jay Bruce ya’all. Is there anything else he hasn’t done this series?

    • vegastypo

      Just catching that one fly ball would have been appreciated. But stuff happens, like losing a line drive in the lights.

    • Steve Mancuso

      On base 7 of 15 plate appearances. Several good defensive plays.

  34. Indy Red Man

    Reds really have something with Lorenzen, Tony Disco, and Inglesias. Inglesias is making some money but not that much and the other 2 won’t cost much for a while. That’s about the only positive of this whole year? Lets see what Moscot can do and Suarez too while they’re at it.

  35. vegastypo

    Somebody just tweeted, the Phillies have the Reds right where they want them.

  36. msanmoore

    Call my cynical, but this is how it starts for us, isn’t it?

  37. doublenohitter

    Um, this is like deja vu all over again. 4 run lead, starter starts an inning on a high pitch count and proceeds to allow the first 2 batters to reach. Where have I heard this story before?

  38. Indy Red Man

    If the guy is nearing his pitch limit and last inning….then the 1st guy reaches….then pull’em already? I didn’t really blame Price last night but he could’ve pulled Leake after the 1st guy got on.

  39. ProspectCincy

    OK Price … lemme lay it out for you.

    Hoover to pitch to Revere and Francouer, Cingrani to pitch to Utley and Howard. If the inning goes beyond that, you have Badenhop ready for Franco, and Parra ready for Asche. USE ‘EM.

    Then you throw Chapman in the 9th, regardless of 4 run lead or less. Victory.

      • ProspectCincy

        No one warming in the pen … Cingrani gonna pitch the full inning.

        Price refusing to manage again.

    • doublenohitter

      Price refuses to use relievers that way. They have to be able to get both lefties and righties out…come hell or high water.

  40. ProspectCincy

    Identical double to two nights ago. Soft liner with the 3B playing well off.


    • jdx19

      Everyone needs to stop with this positioning nonsense. Frazier is playing where he should be. We’re seeing an aberration here.

  41. msanmoore

    In play, run(s) … why am I not surprised.

  42. ProspectCincy

    Heh, pretty funny to hear Utley and Howard are 0-11 w/ 6 K against Cingrani and he wasn’t used two days ago.

    • ProspectCincy

      Meh, Reds starers killing starer ERA. Leaving multiple runners on w/ 0 outs is tough to get out of.

      To Cingrani’s credit, it’s the first inherited runners he’s allowed to score all season … and the hit he gave up weak.

      He looked very sharp tonight. (And pissed).

  43. msanmoore

    Anybody think we need another 3 runs insurance … or more?

    • msanmoore

      Yeah … we just needs some more runs ourselves.

  44. RedAlert

    Better get 10 insurance runs for this gascan bullpen

  45. seat101

    My two-year-old and I are watching Mickey mouse clubhouse. It makes me wish that the Reds manager could call for Toodles’ just like Mickey does.

    Toodles always knows in advance what Mickey and his friends will need. Toodles does not give Mickey the option of making a wrong choice.

    If only…..

    • RedAlert

      Appropriate for a Mickey Mouse organization

    • jessecuster44

      Toodles’ Mousketools…. A Left Fielder! An 8th Inning Specialist! A leadoff man, and the Mystery Mousketool… A new GM!

  46. Indy Red Man

    Cuban Missile time…..its def not been a cruise missile lately

    • msanmoore

      You thinking redemption for him tonight?

  47. vegastypo

    The Reds on their twitter feed talk about Chapman, the missile, entering the game with “Now on the launching pad,” and after last night, that can be taken an entirely different way,

  48. msanmoore

    A little sweet redemption … feels good.

  49. Steve Mancuso

    What a difference it makes to throw strikes.

  50. jdx19

    Ruggiano was DFA’d by Seattle.

    Career 106 wRC+ hitter… Seems like a candidate for LF? Reds would have to pay him the remainder of his $2.5M salary, so maybe not.

  51. Nick Carrington

    Stephenson dominating again tonight and Winker with two hits thus far. Good things to see from our top two prospects.

  52. Tom Reed

    How about those Redlegs. Winners of 4 of the last 6.

  53. Vanessa Galagnara

    Don’t look now but Robert Stephenson has had 3 very dominating starts in a row. He probably won’t be up in the Show until September but very encouraging to see our #1 prospect finally living up to some of the hype.

    Now if only Jesse Winker and Yorman Rodriquez would wake up. Both have to be considered huge disappointments by now.