The Cincinnati Reds (18-21) try to avoid a short two-game series sweep at the hands of the Kansas City Royals (25-14). They’ll play in chilly mid-50’s temperatures tonight but the light rain they had this afternoon should move out and not affect the game’s start time.

2015 statistics for today’s starters:

Jason Marquis 6.63 5.56 2.1 7.0% 18.7%
Jeremy Guthrie 5.44 5.00 1.1 6.2% 8.4%

Jason Marquis just hasn’t been that good. Especially these past two starts where he’s allowed five homeruns and 11 runs overall over 8.2 total innings. His ERA and FIP are heading south. His xFIP, which calculates FIP with a league average homerun rate, is actually okay at 4.06, but is he able to keep it in the yard any more? It wouldn’t surprise me to see the Reds move (or release) Marquis out of the rotation next week in favor of Michael Lorenzen and Raisel Iglesias. Bryan Price even hinted at the move in an interview with Mark Sheldon.

Jeremy Guthrie has also gotten off to a rough start this season. His current strikeout rate of 8.4% is almost half of what it was last season. If it stays this low would be the lowest mark of his career, which was 12.3% in 2013.

The Reds starting lineup has Tucker Barnhart in for Brayan Pena and batting 9th. Brandon Phillips is batting second.

  1. Zack Cozart (R) SS
  2. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
  3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
  4. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
  5. Marlon Byrd (R) LF
  6. Jay Bruce (L) RF
  7. Devin Mesoraco (R) DH
  8. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
  9. Tucker Barnhart (S) C

The Royals lineup is identical to yesterday:

  1. Alcides Escobar (R) SS
  2. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
  3. Lorenzo Cain (R) CF
  4. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B
  5. Kendrys Morales (S) DH
  6. Alex Gordon (L) LF
  7. Salvador Perez (R) C
  8. Omar Infante (R) 2B
  9. Paulo Orlando (R) RF

Devin Mesoraco is sounding hopeful to avoid surgery. Mesoraco got into squat position about 15 times and tossed about 15 balls at 20 percent on simulated throws to second base yesterday. The plan is to repeat this today and then catch a bullpen season during the weekend series in Cleveland.

Manny Parra’s struck out the side on just 13 pitches in his first rehab outing with AAA Louisville yesterday.

Justin Inaz posted original research yesterday to predict future performance based on newly available batted ball velocity data. It is a very good read if you are interested in these early efforts to test the importance the batted ball data.

Nicke Lampe at Beyond the Boxscore wrote that the Reds should move into rebuild mode this summer.

Meanwhile, today’s Reds opponent is going in the opposite direction with historical positive performances. With the Royals 3-0 victory yesterday, and 6-0 win over the Yankees on Sunday, Kansas City pitched back-to-back team shutouts for the first time since 1992.

Well, it’s time to put an end to Kansas City’s scoreless inning streak! The Reds are also looking to break their current four game losing streak.


212 Responses

  1. Michael Smith

    Why on gods green earth dont we move Votto back into the #2 spot?

  2. Vanessa Galagnara

    Kevin Gregg just signed on with the Mariners AAA team. Not sure what that says about the Mariners farm system but it can’t be good.

    • FLA Red

      Thank whomever that we don’t have deal with again. Let’s snapped out of this funk, friends.

    • CTRedsFan

      Mariners have nothing to lose, the Reds are paying his salary. The Mariners probably only have to pay him the Minor League minimum.

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      You see his numbers? He could probably start for the Reds but my goodness he is just terrible this year.

  3. Vanessa Galagnara

    I guess Brandon Phillips is batting second because he is 4 for 6 lifetime against the Royals starting pitcher. Talk about a useless sample size. I have Phillips going 0 for 4 tonight.

    • Greg Dafler

      I don’t think it’s sample size…Pena had been batting there the last couple of games but has the day off for Barnhart. I’m not sure why Votto isn’t batting 2nd anymore? I guess once he started showing power they dropped him to 3rd.

    • VaRedsFan

      missed on that one VG. base hit BP

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        Glad to be wrong in that case!

  4. Eric the Red

    I sure hope they don’t talk themselves into letting Mesoraco gut it out this year, whereupon he will probably a) have a subpar year, and b) end up having surgery in time to mess up a good chunk of next year, and c) risk more permanent damage, thereby costing the Reds one of the more valuable commodities in baseball, a power-hitting catcher. I guess with the awesome record of the Reds medical staff we have nothing to worry about. /s/

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      In fairness Mesoraco is a dreadful defensive catcher and to me it is a head scratcher that he never learned to play another position. I would much rather see Barnhart as catcher and see Mesoraco move to either left field or right field.

      • jdx19

        He’s not dreadful. Give me one piece of data to suggest he’s dreadful.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        how many passed balls has he allow in comparison to league average? How many runners has he thrown out in comparison to league average? How many games has he caught since starting full time? In the very least he is injury prone and catching is not the place to be if you are weak boned.

      • jdx19

        Injury-prone, sure. But that’s not what you said.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        2014 9 passed balls. .9 DWAR 109 games played. Is that what you want from your starting catcher?

      • BigRedMike

        Russell Martin has 5 passed balls in 34 games this year

      • Greg Dafler

        jdx19 beat me to it…I can’t recall anyone else calling him “dreadful” before.

      • VaRedsFan

        I wouldn’t say dreadful, but I would say below avg.

      • Eric the Red

        Power hitting catchers are a rarer breed than power hitting left fielders. He’s worth more as a catcher. And he’s not dreadful defensively.

      • jdx19

        I looked some stuff up in defense (offense) of your assertion since it seems as if you do not want to.

        Mesoraco had 9 passed balls last year, MLB average for the regular catchers was 6.2, so he was a bit higher. He had a .997 fielding pct (not really relevant, I’d say), which was 2nd best in MLB. He threw out 26% of runners. League average was 28%. And he allowed the 4th fewest wild pitches, but that’s not really relevant either since it’s more of a function of how wild your staff is.

        Advanced catcher stats aren’t all that reliable, and FG doesn’t even include a lot of stuff in their “Def” rating for catchers other than positional adjustment and how good they are at preventing steals, but Mesoraco did rank fairly low in “pitch framing” from what I could find on random sites.

        So, all in all, I think we have an average at best, but slightly below-average at worst, catcher on our hands.

      • jdx19

        I apologize. You did post a short-blurb above.

        To answer you question, YES, I want a catcher that put up 4.8 bWAR and 4.5 fWAR. Thanks. Defense doesn’t matter much if you mash. Value is value, you can provide it with a glove, a bat, legs, or some combination.

      • Vicferrari

        Question is can the regular catcher the Reds would be replacing Mes with hit better than the OF Mes would replace. .9 Dwar would indicate he is better than a replacement catcher and would most likely be horrible in the OF hurting the team worse. OF are not that hard to find somehow the Reds cannot do it that regularly

      • Michael Maffie

        Here are some information regarding the questions you posed about Mesoraco:

        1. His Fangraphs defensive runs above average is consistently positive (and large). Defensive metrics have a higher variance than offensive statistics, but having multiple seasons with a positive rating is fairly good evidence that he is an above average defensive catcher.

        2. There were 15 catchers that were give 400 plate appearances last year. This speaks to both his durability and skill.

        Within this group of 15, they averaged 6 errors. Mesoraco had 3.

        Average fielding percentage: 0.993.
        Mesoraco: 0.997.
        Caught stealing: 0.275
        Mesoraco: 0.261

        Although using caught stealing also relies on pitchers’ holding runners on and having effective pickoff moves. The Reds lacking a lefty in the rotation doesn’t help here. His aggregate defensive numbers (from Fangraphs) is probably a better indicator of skill than the other metrics.

      • jdx19

        You got the DRS though, which I omitted. Team work!

  5. jdx19

    Hey, is Justin Inaz a poster here, perchance? He basically posted something I was in the process of working on! Beat me to it!

  6. jdx19

    Cozart now 0-15 with 3 walks in his last 3+ games.

    • jdx19

      THAT’s what you want from your leadoff hitter.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        Who would you put there since you despise every single persons location in the batting order.

    • Vicferrari

      Think he has got to be the worst candidate to lead off. He rarely works the count and probably is more likely to drive runs in hitting 6th or 7th. I do not know if he changed his approach recently as I have not focussed on his leadoff AB’s. But I would think anybody besides Barnhart should leadoff, BP probably would be the best choice if not Votto- who should hit 2nd- IF LINE_UP constructions actually mattered much

      • jdx19

        While I agree with your premise, Vic, I’ve always disliked the qualifier “if lineup construction mattered much.”

        You are definitely right, it doesn’t matter a ton. But it is such low-hanging fruit, it’s so easy to make a close-to-optimal lineup. When you keep trotting out inferior lineups, you’re giving up runs (even if it’s just a few over the year) for no reason at all.

      • Vicferrari

        Pretty much agree, lean on the side of putting your best hitters at the top of your line-up- amazingly Price committed to one of the least likely to get on base to be in the one position to get the most AB’s. Still cannot figure out why you would not bat Hamilton 9th

      • Joe Atkinson

        I don’t think anyone would make an argument for Cozart being the ideal leadoff hitter. Problem is, I don’t think anyone would make an argument for anyone on the roster being an ideal leadoff hitter. I’m not about to advocate Price as Manager of the Year or anything, but in this case, he’s stuck playing euchre with a hand of off-suit 9s and 10s; can’t fault a man for losing with that hand.

      • jdx19

        Out of a bunch of non-ideal hitters, one of them has to be better than the others. Cozart has been one of the 10 worst hitters in baseball over the last 2 years. He’s batting leadoff. That’s lunacy. Anyone else in the lineup except Billy, I think, is a better leadoff hitter.

  7. spro

    Isn’t your leadoff hitter supposed to work the count? And then your #2 hitter swings at the first pitch…

  8. jdx19

    If BP keeps dinking and dunking all year, he’ll actually exceed the expectations I had pre-season.

  9. seat101

    I’ve totally given up on hoping our batters know about working the pitch count.

  10. jdx19

    Thom has no idea what he’s talking about in regards to Votto. He very rarely hits the ball on the ground to the left side. He’ll go that way in the air or on a line, sure, but on the ground, hardly ever.

    • VaRedsFan

      This is true…both about THOM! and Votto.

    • jdx19

      Sure is.

      Did you happen to see Harper getting tossed from the game for not getting back into the batters box quickly enough after his manager was arguing balls and strikes with the ump? One of the strangest things I’ve seen in awhile. Harper wasn’t happy with the strike call, but he didn’t do anything out of the ordinary.

      • VaRedsFan

        saw it… totally bogus ejection.

      • jdx19

        Yeah, I feel bad for the fans who fought the DC Metro traffic to get out there and paid money to watch Harper hit a homer or something, and now the ump on a power trip basically robs all the fans of that. If I were there I’d send him an invoice.

  11. Vicferrari

    Just curious since I cannot see the game, KC pitcher looked like he was getting squeezed according to Gameday on Frazier and Votto AB’s, did the Reds get a lot of borderline calls? The pitch that Byrd struck out on and the following strike 1 pitch to Bruce looked like they were fastballs right over the heart of the plate. Let a golden opportunity slip away. But got Marquis going what could go wrong?

    • VaRedsFan

      Nothing unordinary. Pitch 1 was strike at the bottom of the zone. Byrd had to take pitch 1 after 2 straight walks

      • Vicferrari

        Agree, was talking about strike 1 to Bruce not Byrd (his strike 1 looked like borderline). Point was they seemed to get some calls and did nothing, then Byrd and Bruce missed on back to back pitch that looked to be at the heart of the plate

  12. Vanessa Galagnara

    2014 9 passed balls. .9 DWAR 109 games played. Is that what you want from your starting catcher? Teach your best offensive player to play the outfield where everyone stinks.

    • jdx19

      I don’t think you understand how value works.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        I would take a grade A defensive catcher who scores high marks with pitchers (ryan hanigna, tucker barnhart) over a mediocore catcher any .day. Most demanding defensive position is catcher and the one where you need intelligence. Sure I was wrong on dreadful but he isn’t very good defensively and is only going to get worse considering his track record of injuries. You seriously don’t think he would make a better position player then either Byrd or Bruce? Let me quess you are one of these guys that think Bruce is awesome because he hits the ball really hard to fielders?

      • Eric the Red

        Good hitting catchers are harder to come by than good hitting left fielders. That’s part of why Mesoraco is so valuable.

      • jdx19

        Since you are using a combative tone, I’ll take the same.

        Yes, I’m one of “these guys” who understands physics, statistics, and advanced modeling methods. I also understand the history of baseball and the values of ‘old school’ thinking.

        Having an average to slightly-below-average starting catcher who hits like a corner outfielder has IMMENSE value. This is because you can’t just go find any old catcher who can hit. There aren’t many. See Barnhart, Tucker.

        If you move him to LF, he loses a lot of value because there are a lot of readily available LFers who play average defense and can hit a little bit.

        It’s fine if you don’t understand, but the only thing I ever even commented on was that you called Mesoraco “dreadful,” which is misinformation.

        And please, stop bringing up Jay Bruce every chance you get. It’s really getting old. No one mentioned him except you. Time to get over it.

    • jdx19

      And last year, Meso had 4.5 fWAR and 4.8 bWAR. Doesn’t matter how you accrue value, just that you accrue it somehow.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        I understand your point, however, Mesoraco would put up better offensive numbers than either Bruce or Byrd. In left his defensive couldn’t be that much of a difference over Byrd’s and the way Bruce is playing of late perhaps there wouldn’t be much of a defensive difference in right either. I”m talking about playing with the pieces you have not with what you could get on the open market. Since when did the Reds go out and get quality LF’s or RF’s on the open market?

      • charlottencredsfan

        If nothing else, it is about maximizing PA’s.

  13. charlottencredsfan

    Jay is not running well; wonder if that knee is bucking.

    • jdx19

      And that was just one of the worst throws from a RFer I’ve ever seen. Ever. No hyperbole.

      • charlottencredsfan

        At the very least, maybe the worst one from Jay.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Terrible throw home too. Just doesn’t look right.

    • jdx19

      Hm… then he looked good running that FB down. He’s Jekyll and Hyde in the field, tonight.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Maybe it’s the angle that he is running at.

  14. VaRedsFan

    Did Bruce throw that right handed?

  15. CommonSense

    Remember the good old days when Jay Bruce could actually throw the ball home from RF? He can’t hit or throw anymore.

  16. VaRedsFan

    Every pitch swung at, is hitting the barrel of KC bats

  17. Vanessa Galagnara

    Jay Bruce went from 27 to 37 in one year. Sad, just sad.

  18. charlottencredsfan

    Bet money, Zach get zero help from Don Long. Back to his old habits.

    • Eric the Red

      For a few days he’s looked like the old Cozart. It’s not just the lack of results; he’s impatient, diving at pitches, etc.

      • charlottencredsfan

        I call it ditch digging. Great in a chain gang, not as great on a baseball diamond.

  19. Vanessa Galagnara

    Joey Votto sighting. Maybe he is getting hot. He is hot, now let’s hope that heat transfers to his bat!

  20. Vanessa Galagnara

    Marquis actually looks good today.

  21. Eric the Red

    I seem to have touched off something with the Mesoraco discussion. What no one seems to be addressing though is the wisdom of having him catch in the near future. None of us are privy to his medical info, but given what we’ve heard/seen and what we’ve experienced with injuries, I’m sure nervous.

    • jdx19

      Agreed. I’m nervous, as well. The short-term viability of the Reds as a contender has A LOT to do with Devin being in the lineup and productive.

    • tct

      It’s not just the hip, it’s the concussions. He’s had, what, four in the last five years? That’s what I would be really worried about. If he gets anymore, he’s going to be in a danger zone as far as long term effects go. Hips, for the most part, can be repaired. Brain injuries cannot. And you never know how, or when, they will effect you.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        this we can all agree upon. If we are not going to use him somewhere other than catcher for his own well being he should be traded.

    • Michael Maffie

      This is one of the most important strategic decisions the Reds front office will make. There is not a lot of evidence that catchers can turn into major league left fielders. To my knowledge, the only ones that have even tried to make the transition have been in an attempt to salvage their careers.

      Just by sheer scarcity (as JDX19 argues), we lose value by moving Mesoraco to LF. The skill set of being able to read the ball off the bat, throw from the wall to a cutoff man, and having the speed to track down / take the right line to a batted ball would all be new. Expecting his defensive number to be anywhere near average seems highly optimistic to me.

      Yet if his hip injury is going to be reoccurring, or would substantially limit his role in the future, then it could be that 600ABs in LF is better than what we would get with him behind the plate. This is a really foggy area, though, and the medicine runs way over my pay grade.

  22. Vanessa Galagnara

    way to go Bruce! that will show up as a scorcher off the wall in the boxscore.

    • jdx19

      If folks can’t understand BABIP, luck, and batted ball velocity after that Bruce hit, then I give up.

      • jdx19

        To be honest, I accidentally hit “Reply” on your post rather than at the bottom of the thread. That’s why it says “If folks…” and not “If you…”

  23. jdx19

    BILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve been waiting on that all year.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Perfect bunt and he beat out by a step and a half.

      • jdx19

        Yep. That was pretty. I’m being dead serious, that was the most exciting Reds play in the last 10 days for me, probably.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Happy for you but not for BHam. It will just encourage him to do more of it.

        I did see where he still has confidence in his bat; how, I don’t know. I’m a believer that it is not a bad thing to lose confidence if the thing you are losing confidence in has no value.

  24. jdx19

    I heard Jeremy Guthrie is a Cy Young candidate. Anyone else hear that? No? Ok…

  25. charlottencredsfan

    Guthrie is about a pedestrian a pitcher as there is. Can’t score a couple of runs off him……….

    • VaRedsFan

      He is pitching up in the zone well….at least tonight he is

      • VaRedsFan

        to me, he looks like Homer Bailey (velocity-wise) with command, movement and and off speed pitch

      • charlottencredsfan

        That is exactly what he does: not beat himself. You will need to earn it but he is not going to ever dominate you.

  26. Vanessa Galagnara

    I am watching on gamecast. Was Billy out of position?

  27. charlottencredsfan

    Looks like it could get ugly here. Send the kids to bed.☺

  28. George Mirones

    Looks like price on the phone to bullpen.

  29. AARON

    I am an Athletic Trainer who has worked with a 2 athletes that had hip impingement. One was a collegiate swimmer and the other was a collegiate softball pitcher. One has surgery, one treated conservatively.

    Hip impingement (HI) isn’t an injury that has a simple cause you can point to. For example, and ACL tear happens because a shearing or lateral force was applied to the knee while extended. Simple as that. HI can be caused by several different things (1) deformity in the femoral head (2) the acetabulum or hip socket is too narrow leading to friction (3) repetitive motions that cause a fraying or wearing town of the hip labrum (4) traumatic injury event. It is possible to even have a combination of causes for the onset of hip pain that is then identified at HI via MRI.

    In my experience with HI, conservative treatment is usually effective to a point. Physical therapy, modalities, rest, drugs, and hip injections are combined to provide pain relief. Most of the time, the pain gradually improves with walking first, then running, then kicking motions. In both cases, squatting was off limits forever. Both orthopedic surgeons said that weight room squatting was a restriction that they would permanently have. For obvious anatomical reasons, squatting would continue to fray/tear/apply pressure to the acetabulum and could lead to further injury such as nerve damage, femoral head stress fracture, and even a stress fracture of the femur itself.

    HI isn’t new in baseball. And for most people, treating conservatively or surgery if conservative treatment fails, will provide near full relief. However, because of the nature of the surgery and the HI, there is a real risk that performing surgery on a catcher would be unsuccessful or even lead to the necessity having a total hip replacement.

    I have no insight into Devins MRI or root cause of his HI, but I would guess its an anatomical deformity that overuse has made worse to the point of tearing the labrum. In any case, conservative treatment needs to be tried (injections, therapy, rest) before any surgeon would place a catcher as a candidate for surgery. There is a greater than 50% chance that HI surgery would greatly shorten or be the end of Devin’s catching career. I think they are doing due diligence in going through the conservative treatment steps and determine what needs to happen. Ultimately if he needs surgery to repair it, they would be able to design a surgical protocol to give Devin the best possible chance at returning to major league catching.

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      Good info thanks for that! Do you think that the issue with the hip would affect his ability to play other positions?

      • AARON

        No. Generally full recovery with maybe a 5-10% reduction in strength on the involved side. Perhaps enough to affect batting numbers slightly, but not fielding other positions.

    • Michael Maffie

      Hi Aaron, thank you for sharing this information, it is very helpful to have an expert weight in on this issue. Are there other baseball activities aside from squatting (sliding, sprinting, rotating the hips while hitting) that could result in further damage? Also, how long is the typical recovery from surgery?

      • AARON

        The fact he is being “allowed” to hit leads me to believe his hip labrum is torn in only one certain position. Think of the hip labrum being like a saucer and the cup being the femoral head. So when you squat, as in catching, your femoral head moves up on the labrum. The tear (impingement) most likely being in that area would only then cause pain when in that position. So unless you are high stepping, your femoral head isn’t aggravating that part of the torn labrum unless you squat.

        The issue with the repair would come down to a simple labral repair or would they need to shave some of the femoral head… thats when you could have issues with post surgical squatting.

      • AARON

        As for recovery.. 4-6 months is generally the range… with sports its much closer to 4 because they get daily attention from athletic trainers and such, whereas general public sees a therapist 2-3x a week.

  30. charlottencredsfan

    Marquis not getting a lot of help from his D.

  31. jdx19

    When’s the last time a Red made a good throw? I’m coming up short on recollection…

  32. Vanessa Galagnara

    That was one heck of an at bat by Morales. Wish the Reds could see some plate discipline like that.

  33. jdx19

    3 2/3 for Marquis. That’s pretty bad.

  34. BigRedMike

    I am sad that this organization thinks Marquis is a legitimate option to start games. It is really unacceptable

    • charlottencredsfan

      Should be his last start as Price has already hinted at that, after the SF debacle.

    • BigRedMike

      Hope you are correct, marquis should not be in a starting rotation

      • charlottencredsfan

        Yeah, I always thought baseball was not his sport. Wonder if he would have been better suited as a WR in the NFL?

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        Me too! I have often thought that he was the victim of over development. Lots of people trying to fix his swing. Reminds me of that movie Tommy Boy when Tommy goes in to make his first sell and sets the guys model cars on fire!

    • jdx19

      Stubbs, at his current rate, is accumulating a negative WAR every 61 PAs. In the last decade, the worst rate for a guy who got at least 300 PAs was Adam Dunn in 2011 at 171 PAs per negative WAR.

      In other words, Stubbs’ start to 2015 makes him the worst performing player (pro-rated to 300 PAs) of the last decade.

  35. charlottencredsfan

    Reds probably have two more innings to do some business.

  36. hof13

    I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the last time we see Marquis pitching for the Reds. Earlier in the year Price would have left him in to work through it and get a couple more innings.

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      I think Marquis has a future in our bullpen. He has been pretty good through the lineup one full time.

      • Indy Red Man

        Just say no!!! He was a mediocre guy about 6-7 years ago and that’s about it

      • Tom Reed

        Right now Marquis would strengthen the Reds bullpen with a one inning limit.

  37. RedAlert

    Go on and post the recap – it’s over

    • Tom Reed

      The off-day tomorrow is needed for the Reds to recoup their winning ways.

  38. ProspectCincy

    Heh, why are people thinking Jason Marquis isn’t pitching anymore?

    He’s sticking around a while people. No alternatives …

      • ProspectCincy

        The Reds have been idiots for giving him 9 starts already. 20 more won’t change that …

  39. VaRedsFan

    Just spit balling here, but it looks like to me that Votto has a severe upper cut going on.

  40. Vanessa Galagnara

    Apparently Brandon really can hit this guy.

      • mtkal

        Who has he been hitting .300 against this season?

  41. charlottencredsfan

    KC has a few guys that can play this game.

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      I respect em. I root for them any day they aren’t playing the Reds. With that said a loss today by our Reds should spell big changes in a positive way.

    • Dr. K

      KC has got to be one of the most entertaining teams to watch in either league. If the Reds season continues to spiral out of control, I can see watching them on a regular basis.

  42. jdx19

    Fun (irrelevant) Stat of the Night:

    In 2014, Skip Schumaker had the 76th worst player-season of all player-seasons from 2005 to now. That’s something like 6800 player-seasons. And, he did it all in only 271 at-bats!

    We got Skip for that! 🙂

  43. AARON

    Meanwhile, I have the urge to call and request a refund for misleading me and false advertising. I thought I paid $100+ to watch a professional baseball team…. 🙂

  44. VaRedsFan

    Matheus fitting right in here, putting the leadoff man on. Although he saves pitches but just hitting him with the 1st pitch

    • jdx19

      So, you’re saying he’s an improvement? 😉

  45. Indy Red Man

    I hope the Royals win the whole thing although they need to pickup some pitching somewhere?

    Our Reds still have a lot of talent <30 years of age but Jocketty and Price couldn't lead a lady of the night to bed so Bob C. would have to can them for the Reds to actually achieve anything and that's not going to happen. I might be fair weather but who wants to waste 3 hours/night on this trainwreck?

    • mtkal

      Honest question has Castellini indicated he loves Walt and wouldn’t consider a change? I haven’t heard what he thinks of how the Reds are doing.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        I would love to know that as well. He surely can’t be impressed.

  46. George Mirones

    Thom says “those guys can hit”, Really may it is our guys can’t pitch!!.

    • Dr. K

      Or it’s possible both statements are true. Of course, that means Thom is right and that can’t be.

      • George Mirones

        Sorry to mislead you, Thom said the first quote but really should have said “our guys can’t pitch” Yes both are true but Thom would never say the pitch comment.

  47. George Mirones

    Can the Reds be shutout 2 games in a row?

    • jdx19

      Yes. At this point, it’s probably the most likely outcome.

    • Dr. K

      Tonight would be the 4th shut out against the Reds already this year. Pretty safe bet it won’t be the last, either.

  48. jdx19

    I think my biggest pet peeve in baseball is taking a pitch right down the middle and then following on the next pitch by swinging at a ball out of the zone.

  49. Joey

    Went to ESPN and saw that it was 5-0 in the 5th. Almost afraid to come to Redlegnation to see what would be said about Marquis. This has to be the end right?

  50. George Mirones

    I think that the Reds have stopped watching the video of games and at bats. It must be like reruns. Bruce openly says he doesn’t see the value in doing that. Maybe some of the Reds players think they are instructional tapes of how to play the game!!

  51. wildwestlv

    Looks like the Royals will make it three consecutive shutouts, tonight. At least you can watch Kansas City make franchise history.

  52. Dr. K

    Salt in the wound, with Madson on the mound.

    • ElPasoRed

      LOL! We were sitting here rolling our eyes about the whole Cornhusker spiele ourselves!

      • preacherj

        Yes, and he knew Pele was from Brazil. Good job, THOM!

  53. VaRedsFan

    royal streak over! BP rbi double

  54. jdx19

    At least they got 1. Thanks, BP.

    Night, folks.

  55. Dr. K

    As a big fan of his I’d hate to see Phillips moved, but as a fan of the team it would be a good move. Any chance he’s building up some value as a movable piece with the season he’s having? He’s not hitting for power, but he’s having a pretty solid year at the plate. Defense hasn’t fallen off too much either.

  56. George Mirones

    The Reds are looking like the team that showed up after the All Star Break last year.

  57. Craig Z

    Marty just said on the radio broadcast that when Marshall went in for surgery all they found was some scar tissue that had filled with fluid and he could be throwing in 4-6 weeks.

    • George Mirones

      6 weeks to start throwing 3-4 weeks rehabbing so maybe August. Maybe Walt will be waiting on him like waited on Luddy.

    • ohiojimw

      he still has the weekend in cleveland to go.
      tonight on the pregame radio Price directly stated that Meso would likely work to get his catching into game shape somewhere “in a minor league setting”

      • preacherj

        He’s already in a minor league setting.

  58. charlottencredsfan

    Only thing you can do with that pitch is take back thru the box. Exactly what Moustakas did. Man has that kid improved.

    • wyoRedsfan

      that is true–AOL owned the rights for a long time. Don’t know who does now…

  59. preacherj

    Was Thom serious about a lawsuit around singing happy birthday to someone?

  60. charlottencredsfan

    Horrible, just horrible. Royals just taking it to us.

  61. preacherj

    This is getting harder to watch by the inning.

    • Tom Reed

      I no longer give the Reds game preference over other things I have to do. I watch it off and on with the volume on mute.

  62. preacherj

    I’ve already apologized to my son for raising him to be a Bengals and Blue Jackets fan…..looks like I’m not done saying I’m sorry.

  63. preacherj

    Skip has been downright gritty lately.

  64. ohiojimw

    Does Price still get to coach at the ASG if the Reds pull the plug on him before then?

    I realize perhaps the problems are not all or even mostly of his doing; but, if this losing streak moves close to double digits and the team seems as moribund as the 2nd half of last season, which is the way they seem headed, I can see Price being sent packing. Sooner rather than later.

    • preacherj

      I could see him having Bryce Harper bunting a runner over in the first.

    • DavidTurner49

      Some guy on guaranteed Price out and Gardenhire in today! Only 17 min. left for that to happen.

  65. wyoRedsfan

    Price might be the only all-star this year; he should be fired by then–how does that work?

  66. charlottencredsfan

    Cozart regresses to the mean. Boy oh boy.

  67. Indy Red Man

    9 hits and 2 walks….1 run. That’s hard to pull off but our boys do it regularly. When’s football season start?

  68. preacherj

    The Reds were 0-11 with RISP this series. Why do I find this relevant? Because for this team, it’s a repeatable skill. A very, very, repeatable skill.

    • wyoRedsfan

      According to the statomatics it is irrelevant, so don’t worry, the offense is fine!

      • wyoRedsfan

        I am just a simple man who doesn’t want my Reds hobby to be more mental than my work. Is that too much to ask.

  69. CTRedsFan

    Interesting stat, Schumaker now has as many doubles as Votto and more than everyone else on the team except Frazier and Cozart. Sad, sad, sad…..

    • Robby20

      Votto sure started strong, but has fallen noticeably. I for one was hoping he would have a great year so he could be moved.

  70. Jay Boston

    What a laughable performance yet again.Too early to start with the firesale. Jocketty, to the backups they got to go. Seriously I’m tired of all these guys. Haven’t done anything since signing fat contracts after the 2012 season. This team is performing so badly right now. The bullpen is unrecognizable. They don’t even care it seems. You’d think since the Reds are hosting the all-star game they’d put forth a little more effort in signing key players, Instead we are treated with players like Byrd and Marquis. What a shame. At this rate i’ll be finished watching them by the end of May. Votto, Cozart look like they are going through the motions. BP and frazier appear to be the only ones who give a D—-. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS TEAM, IF YOU ARE YOU ARE MERELY CONTRIBUTING TO A FAILED ORGANIZATION.