Although the Cincinnati Reds (9-10) cannot play the Milwaukee Brewers (4-16) every day, they do get to play them again today! The Reds are looking to even their record up to .500 for the third time in the past week while facing the only Brewers pitcher to beat them this season.

2015 stats:

Johnny Cueto 1.86 1.94 0.3 4.6% 29.1%
Kyle Lohse 7.94 5.38 2.0 4.1% 14.4%

Johnny Cueto would love some of the run support the Reds have piled onto the Brewers recently. The Reds have scored 25 runs in Jason Marquis last two starts (both against Milwaukee) but have only scored 22 runs over Cueto’s last 11 starts, stretching back into 2014. The opposing pitcher hasn’t always been the problem either, as Cueto has only faced the other team’s #1 starter four times in those 11 starts.

Tonight will be the 5th time in 12 starts for Cueto to get matched up with an opponent’s number one guy. Kyle Lohse’s only good start of the season came last week against the Reds where he gave up just a two run homerun to Marlon Byrd over 7 innings.

Ryan Braun is back in today’s starting lineup for the Brewers:

  1. Jean Segura (R) SS
  2. Gerardo Parra (L) LF
  3. Ryan Braun (R) RF
  4. Adam Lind (L) 1B
  5. Aramis Ramirez (R) 3B
  6. Logan Schafer (L) CF
  7. Martin Maldonado (R) C
  8. Hector Gomez (R) 2B
  9. Kyle Lohse (R) P

The Reds lineup keeps Cozart at #2 and Phillips/Byrd batting 6th/7th:

  1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
  2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
  3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
  4. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
  5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
  6. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
  7. Marlon Byrd (R) LF
  8. Brayan Pena (S) C
  9. Johnny Cueto (R) P

Homer Bailey was placed on the 15-day DL yesterday, and Thursday’s probable replacement has not yet been named. If the Reds go with someone from the active roster, they could let Tony Cingrani take the start. He last pitched on Sunday and only threw 2 innings. Carlos Contreras, the pitcher called up to replace Homer, also last pitched Sunday and has thrown more than one inning in each of his last three appearances. It would be possible that these two pitchers could combine for at least six innings.

When looking at AAA Louisville’s roster, there are a couple of options. Dylan Axelrod is scheduled to pitch Wednesday, and Michael Lorenzen is Thursday’s scheduled AAA starter. Because they’ve played two doubleheaders in the past three days, any other Louisville starting pitchers would be pitching Thursday on 3 days rest or less.

UPDATE: The Reds have decided to promote Michael Lorenzen to make his major league debut tomorrow against the Brewers in Cincinnati. The promotion will require a 40-man roster move. Mike Leake slides back one day to pitch in Thursday on the road against the Braves.

The Reds will hopefully keep the hot bats going against the Brewers tonight to give Cueto the run support he deserves.


115 Responses

  1. Eric the Red

    One tiny point I didn’t get to make on the recap from yesterday’s game, but since the subject came up again in the setup for this game: the increased run support Marquis has received as opposed to the other starters isn’t a complete fluke. He’s helped himself with the bat in a couple of key situations.

    • Steve Mancuso

      He was mad they made him bunt last night. Runners on first and third and one out. Fly ball gets the runner in. Price let him swing (and miss) at the first pitch then had him bunt. All it did was move the runner to second base and avoid a double play, I suppose. But it gave up the opportunity to score a runner from third on a sac fly with one out. I was right over the Reds dugout and Marquis was definitely not pleased about having to bunt.

      • Eric the Red

        He had that chopper in the second that drove in the 3rd run (out of 4). And in at least one other game–I think it was the 16 run game–he had a hit that kept a rally going. Small sample size, but he’s always been above average for a pitcher.

      • Eric the Red

        Oh, and thanks for the first hand report. It’s a shame the Reds TV announcers typically only talk about things I can see for myself on TV, and not things like you reported.

    • Eric the Red

      I typically only complain when the pitch tracking shows the calls are egregious. Like a bunch of them last night.

    • Jeremy Conley

      Thanks for posting, that’s really interesting. I don’t like the ones they like the best because the pitcher’s body blocks too much of the plate. That said, numbers 8 and 9 (Baltimore and Toronto) look great, and way better than the Reds.

    • Vicferrari

      I do not understand why people consider Zach Cozart on a hot streak, I get last Tuesday but has has less than a .200 OBP in the past 6 games or so.

      • jdx19

        That’s the rationale of hitting him 2nd. I agree, he’s not really that hot.

  2. charlottencredsfan

    Billy opening up his stance again. Here we go back to .200.

    • Gaffer

      I saw that on him last year, I agree it’s so obvious now that you say it.

      • charlottencredsfan

        It’s a great look, just horribly ineffective.

  3. msanmoore

    Not watching, just following on Gameday, but did somebody say, “Work fast. We’ve got a long bus ride.” to these guys?

  4. Jeremy Forbes

    Cozart always makes great plays look so easy.

  5. Jeremy Forbes

    I think there’s something seriously wrong with Marquis. He was crouched over a bit, eyes closed in pain and there was a police officer in the dugout behind him. No idea what’s happening there.

    • Jeremy Forbes

      Or maybe not, they just showed him again and he looked okay. That was odd.

    • doublenohitter

      I think someone was telling him a story that was grossing him out. he was all smiles after BP’s home run.

      And the byrdman goes back-to-back.

      • Jeremy Forbes

        Yeah, was just thrown off by seeing the police officer right behind him at the same time and then the camera cut away fairly quickly.

  6. jdx19

    Wow, not many folks around! No mention of VOTTOOOOOOOO!

    and BPPP!!!!!!!

  7. vegastypo

    Checking in from work. I’ve been waiting AWHILE to take out some frustration on Lohse!!!

    Make ’em stand up, Johnny!!!

  8. jdx19

    THOM! hitting on an important point… if anyone still thinks defense doesn’t matter, just look at the Washington Nationals.

      • jdx19

        Their poor start coupled with the Mets hot start have basically eroded their “edge” in the division. The Nats are still a good team, just playing very, very poorly. It’s basically a toss-up at this point. Wild.

    • msanmoore

      You mean the ESPN Washington Harper-Strasburg’s?

      • jdx19

        I guess… don’t really understand your reference.

      • msanmoore

        Nats are the darlings of ESPN. Picked to finish about 120-42 (if they lose that many). The gushing gets a little ridiculous.

      • jdx19

        So does hyperbole. No one picked them to win 120 games.

  9. jdx19

    I just read an article on FG today how Ramirez is declining and has lost his power. As soon as I read it, I KNEW he was going to go yard tonight.

    • vegastypo

      There are just certain guys that Cueto doesn’t solve. Todd Helton used to hit Cueto like he owned him …

  10. msanmoore

    Deep breath … solo homers don’t kill you … for the most part.

  11. Vicferrari

    Just curious if Gameday had it correct, Cueto swinging away on a 2-0 count after Lohse just issues a 5 pitch walk? Hopefully 3 runs is enough for Cueto, a CG would be nice

    • mtkal

      Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like Reds batters swing WAAAYYYY too often when the pitcher is obviously having trouble throwing strikes. Are things like that discussed with major league batters, or are they expected to know game situations and act accordingly? Because it seems like many of them don’t.

  12. Vicferrari

    55 pitches thru 5, a CG would be real nice to not have to use a BP that will be needed tomorrow.

  13. jdx19

    Hamilton with 1 infield hit and 0 bunt hits. Still think that is the absolute craziest stat of the year.

    • jdx19

      They just decided that during the game?

      • mtkal

        Article posted on the Reds’ website about an hour ago saying no decision made yet. Who knows? Interesting to know where Gaffer heard it.

    • I-71_Exile

      Ugh. At least its soon and definitive. Sorry Homer. 🙁

      • Gaffer

        Jim Day said they already decided on what they are doing but they don’t want to announce it only a day after. Homer said that and said he was very disappointed.

      • Vicferrari

        Is this not what Votto got last season, seems like he was hanging around like Mes for a few months, is this work for anybody besides Contreras

      • msanmoore

        Had the exact same thought. He’s done for the year even if they don’t do TJ on him.

  14. Gaffer

    Part of Jay Bruce’s problems stems from continued terrible strike calls against him. No other player gets strikes called that are further outside the zone, look at the Foxtracks, it’s ridiculous!

  15. Mack Ashley Potter

    Does anyone else throw up in their mouth a little bit every time they think about the Reds paying Homer Bailey 100 Million Dollars over the next 6 years, and meanwhile we are gonna have to watch Cueto pitch for someone else pretty soon?

    • jdx19

      $100 million is chump change nowadays. Pitchers get hurt. Do you forget Cueto isn’t a model of health? He could torque his back next inning.

      It’s unfortunate that Homer is hurt. When he’s healthy, he’s a good pitcher.

      Even if they had a little extra money, signing Cueto would be a horrendous decision for the amount of money he’s likely to get if he has a good season. Like, more than Votto per season.

    • Vicferrari

      There are a lot of arguments that Reds can still get good years, Homer has to be as good as his metrics predicts. could not have afforded Cueto even if they did not give Bailey the contract

    • mtkal

      Way rather have Cueto. Not because I think Bailey is overpaid though. I really want both, but if only one I want Cueto. Not many, if any other big contracts coming up soon I don’t think. Despite “all the injuries” Cueto has been extremely productive and IMO that will continue.

  16. msanmoore

    Meanwhile, a mere 62 pitches later and having missed with only one of them …

      • msanmoore

        Yep – we do play in a bandbox … or so they tell me.

      • jdx19

        Solo shots can be worked around, at least!

      • jdx19

        It means he doesn’t like Homer Bailey.

      • Vicferrari

        Reds should not give contract to players who get injured just because they accomplish great things

      • jdx19

        They gave him the contract… before…the…injury.

        Also, all pitchers get hurt at some point. That doesn’t mean you can’t give them contracts.

      • CP

        Wait, are you trying to teach us deductive reasoning?

        Reds should not give contracts to players who get injured.

        All pitchers get injured.

        The Reds should not give contracts to pitchers.

  17. Mack Ashley Potter

    Amazing how the Reds just seem to fly out, fly out, fly out, & FLY OUT.
    But stick a base runner at 3rd with less than 2 outs? lololololololol

  18. I-71_Exile

    Glad that Braun blast didn’t happen last night.

  19. jdx19

    Lots of gushing from the booth about a play that every 2nd baseman in the league makes.

    • jdx19

      Wait, does Dan Uggla still play 2nd base? Nevermind. I retract my statement.

  20. Vicferrari

    Gameday had 1st pitch ball to Maldando right in the middle of the plate?

  21. Jeremy Forbes

    The Brewers have eleven HRs as a team this year including today. Seven of them have been against the Reds.

    • earmbrister

      And 2 of them have come vs Cueto. Small sample size example.

      • jdx19

        Not really. It’s just a statement of fact.

      • Jeremy Forbes

        No point, just pretty crazy that it’s 7 HR in 6 games vs 4 HR in the other 15. Interesting stat is all.

      • Vicferrari

        I see the point, it is interesting even if some do not thinks so

  22. Vicferrari

    74 pitches, how about getting some more runs so leaving Cueto in is an easy decision.

  23. Vicferrari

    Could have knocked Lohse out in the 5th, let him finish strong, hopefully Cueto dials it up and finishes like an ace

    • Vicferrari

      look like an Ace there, just curious how many CG have there been < 100 pitches. Cueto has got a chance against the heart of their order

  24. I-71_Exile

    Lohse goes out with a flourish.

  25. Jeremy Forbes

    Taking your ace out at 85 pitches after getting an extra day of rest just because of the save stat. I don’t blame Cueto for being upset.

    • I-71_Exile

      The Brewers squared some balls that inning…but yeah.

    • msanmoore

      Yep. Prompted my earlier comment about “Work fast. We’ve got a long bus ride.”

    • Vicferrari

      Cueto was at 85 pitches, dumb, dumb, dumb, if Chapman is needed tomorrow how available is he for the Braves series?

    • Vicferrari

      I guess the reason it bothers me so is if the Reds have a lead after 7 tomorrow, there is no chance Chapman will pitch 2 innings when it virtually will be the same effect on him if he sits tonight

  26. ncboiler

    Phillip Ervin killing it so far this year in Daytona. 2-5 tonight with 2 HR’s

    • I-71_Exile

      That’s a fantastic report. Wouldn’t mind seeing him here in Louisville.

  27. Janet

    I do NOT understand this nonsense about never allowing pitchers to pitch complete games. Very disappointed to see Chapman coming in.

  28. Vicferrari

    Mike Leake might not like it, but it is a smart move to let Lorenzen make his debut tomorrow

  29. jdx19

    Ok, well I guess I’ll say it…


    It’s like a mausoleum on the thread tonight! Hah!

    • I-71_Exile

      When the Reds win, the complainers are a little less vocal.

      • jdx19

        Exactly the opposite. I meant no one was happy or posted anything about the Reds winning. Not sure I’ve ever seen that happen.

    • Vicferrari

      I guess Homer’s situation has got a lot down and just another win against the Brewers is not causing much excitement- they almost do not feel like a major league team but about 10 months ago they were one of the best… Flukes I know but despite less Gomez and Lucoy to take 6 of 7 from anybody would be an accomplishment

  30. Gaffer

    Chapman looks scary with 3 unhitable pitches. Too bad the Reds will have paid him 40-50 million to pitch the equivalent of 2 full years, while the next team that signs him will get an amazing pitcher will low miles.

    • kmartin

      I love watching batters swing at 100 MPH fastballs right after seeing off speed pitches. I can’t imagine what it must be like to see an 88 change and then one at 100.

      • mtkal

        When he developed that change up, batters must have just thought, well bleep!

      • Jeremy Forbes

        Yeah, when Chapman gets all three pitches working, it’s completely unfair for other teams and great to watch as a Reds fan.

  31. mtkal

    In a way it’s gonna be tough to watch every time Cueto pitches this year because he does it so well, and it seems to be a forgone conclusion that he won’t be here long which is a terrible change. The return for trading an ace rarely seems to be anywhere close to what the other team gets from the ace.

    • Vicferrari

      But a lot of people post on here like were gonna get Bryant or the next Mike Trout

      • mtkal

        More likely to get prospects that we hope will be Bryant or Trout, but that the other team has decided probably won’t be. It’s a crap shoot for a sure thing. . . But we save lots of money. Yay!!!

  32. Grand Salami

    Does Billy need to step out of the lead off spot or what?

    • jdx19

      Yes, but the only decent leadoff hitter on the team is Votto, and Price won’t do that. For better or worse, Billy is the leadoff hitter.

      • Vicferrari

        would like to see Billy batting 9th, who would be the optimal lead off hitter in this line-up? Almost want Pena as he seems the most consistent but he is so slow

      • jdx19

        Pena has a career OBP of .295, so IMO, he’d be significantly worse than Hamilton. Don’t let his early season numbers fool you. He’s really not that good of a hitter. Frazier would be the only other option I think.

  33. jdx19

    Reds opponent after MilwAAAukee just blew a 9-1 2nd inning lead. Sheesh!

    • Vicferrari

      Dan Uggla 3 run bomb, might be getting at good time, after 5-0 start looking at 10-10, whole lin-up hitting way above projections accept for Freeman