All sunny skies today as the Reds (8-9) look to split this rain shortened series with the Cubs. There has been no word as of yet on when yesterday’s game will be made up, but the Cubs are in Cincinnati again July 20-22 and September 29 to October 1.

STARTING PITCHERS
All stats 2015 actuals

PITCHER ERA FIP HR/9 BB% K%
Jake Arrieta 1.74 1.77 0.0 5.0% 23.8%
Anthony DeSclafani 0.86 2.84 0.43 5.2% 20.8%

Both Bryan Price and Joe Maddon are sticking with the same starters that were to throw yesterday. Price has also already said that the Reds’ rotation won’t be affected, just shifted back a day. To see my preview of the matchup from yesterday, go here.

A couple days ago, Call to the Pen published a piece detailing why Anthony DeSclafani is the frontrunner for the National League Rookie of the Year. Now while I wholeheartedly agree with them, it is far too early to even entertain such notions. Award season aside, one comparison that is never too early to make for Disco Inferno is with his shipping buddy:

Mat Latos — 0-3, 7.31 ERA, 3.40 FIP, 1.88 WHIP

DeSclafani — 2-0, 0.86 ERA, 2.84 FIP, 0.62 WHIP

Sometimes you do have to give Walt Jocketty some credit.

For the Cubs, Jake Arrieta will be pitching today after being none too pleased about how yesterday’s postponement went. When asked if he was bored during the long delay, Arrieta had this to say:


After the game, Joe Maddon defended his pitcher saying Arrieta typically needs 40 minutes to warm up and that the continually changing start times were not allowing for that.

STARTING LINEUPS
Bruce is out of the Reds’ lineup once again even though yesterday’s lineup never actually materialized. Makes you wonder about if the substitution is for rest or some other purpose.

1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Brennan Boesch (L) RF
6. Marlon Byrd (R) LF
7. Zack Cozart (R) SS
8. Brayan Pena (S) C
9. Anthony DeSclafani (R) P
WESLEY

The Cubs’ lineup is the same as it would have been yesterday.

1. Dexter Fowler (S) CF
2. Jorge Soler (R) RF
3. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
4. Kris Bryant (R) 3B
5. Miguel Montero (L) C
6. Starlin Castro (R) SS
7. Chris Coghlan (L) LF
8. Jake Arrieta (R) P
9. Addison Russell (R) 2B
WESLEY

WORLD SERIES CELEBRATION
Even with the rain falling, the Reds still went on with the pregame celebrations for the 1990 World Series team. Moved from the field to the Handlebar Club, the ceremony was broadcasted on the video board as fans watched from their seats or under the terraces. The ceremony included a video depicting the highlights of that season, introductions of the players in attendance, messages from Lou Pinella and Tony Perez, and a moment of silence for the two players from the team who have since passed. The ceremony ended with an address by Hall of Fame shortstop Barry Larkin thanking the organization and hoping for more World Series down the line.

(Side note: While watching the video of the celebration, I realized that my former pitching coach–Keith Brown–was on the 1990 team, so that was a nice moment for me and utterly irrelevant for anyone else.)

INTERESTING/RELEVANT READ
Steve tweeted this out earlier, but Alex Speier wrote an article for the Boston Globe about the status of aces in the current Major League climate and it’s fascinating.

Find it here.

WAINWRIGHT DONE?
Reports are saying that Adam Wainwright has torn his Achilles and is expected to be out for the season. As probably the most dreaded pitcher in the entire NL Central (Cueto being a close second), Wainwright’s injury is devastating for the Cardinals but likely won’t affect the Reds’ chances unless they learn to hit lesser pitchers first. Despite the competitive advantage Wainwright’s injury gives, you hate to see such a master of his craft have to miss time for any reason, much less one that will require surgery and extensive rehab.

CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
The Reds are in a rut, a lull, the doldrums, whatever you want to call it. Winning one today would give them a running start at the punching bag Brewers, hopefully jumping the ignition of this club to power past .500 and make a run. While remaining optimistic, I continually find it hard to cheer for this team when I know success will just prolong Jocketty’s stay in Cincinnati, thus keeping the roster mismanagement at a maximum for years to come.

WESLEY

209 Responses

  1. Steve Mancuso

    I’m headed to the game. Looking forward to watching Disco in person. Nothing but sunshine today. Tough to get runs off Arrieta.

  2. seat101

    I think their lease two reasons to give Bruce the day off again. One,it’s the same picture as yesterday; And two, if you promise a guy a start let him have it.

    • ohiojimw

      I’m hoping Boesch has a good to very good day; and, Price borrows from old Trader Jack McKeon and decides to leave him in tomorrow but in LF instead of RF and that he has another good day and Price decides to ride him in LF until he cools down or they face a leftie.

  3. ohiojimw

    As a Reds fan, one of the more interesting aspects of the Wainright injury is going to be seeing how the Cards organization reacts to it as opposed to how I suspect the Reds org would react to similar circumstance.

    • Steve Mancuso

      Great point. We know what the Reds would do. Same thing they did when Joey Votto got knocked out for the season. Or when Ryan Ludwick did on Opening Day.

      They did nothing at all.

      Prediction: Cole Hamels to St. Louis.

      • George Mirones

        Great thought, I can hear the phone ringing in St Louis from the Phillies calling “just to catch up on how things are doing”. The Reds track record in reaction to injury makes me worry about Mes because if they eventually DL him it will be Pena and Tucker for the rest of the season, not that there is much available which will further support inaction. Off the top of my head I can’t think of a suitable replacement at catcher.

      • CTRedsFan

        Just a thought, I believe Dioner Navarro is backing up Russell Martin in Toronto, he might make a decent fill-in at catcher, and he has a better bat than either Pena or Tucker.

      • George Mirones

        Or they just might go to their farm system and bring up a kid who throws 100mph with a break your wrist slider at 85. They do have a habit of doing that.

      • WVRedlegs

        They have a LH they drafted out of college last year that is about ready. Gonzalez I think is his name. But they will make a trade, and it’ll be soon. They could lose Gonzalez, Martinez and Grichuk (and More) to get Hamels. The Phillies need alot.

  4. CTRedsFan

    Why in the world would the Reds not just skip Marquis this time through the rotation and go straight to Cueto?

    Why run one of the top pitchers in MLB out there, on his regular schedule no less, when you can use someone with a 7+ ERA?

    The shockingly inept management continues.

    • Steve Mancuso

      I agree 100%. Price and Jocketty behaving like everything is just fine with Marquis and Gregg (and Parra) as they have been since the offseason minor league signings.

    • Vicferrari

      On the surface, Not that big of a deal, its either Monday or Thursday,,,but if it was Thursday the way the schedule plays out could get away with only need a fifth starter about 3 times in May. But there seems to be some belief this affects morale irrationallt

    • Red Giant

      I don’t get it either. “Thinking inside the box” philosophy?

      • Red Giant

        I hadn’t thought about the fact an extra day would be beneficial for Cueto so maybe I pulled the trigger a bit too fast with my “Thinking inside the box” observation/question.

    • ohiojimw

      who is the Brewers probable starter for Monday? One possible justification for pushing Cueto back would be to spot him against a down rotation guy to further improve the Reds chances for a “W”. After all Cueto could pitch a gem versus Arietta and the team could still come up short given the Reds offense.

      Also, bet that if asked Price will mention Cueto threw 125 pitches his last outing and therefore the extra day seemed like a good idea

  5. seat101

    Steve, whether your prediction comes true or not, I believe the Cardinals will pull the trigger on whatever their decision is, quickly,

    The Cardinals are not a “raisin in the sun” team.

  6. Vicferrari

    So now that its Cingrani’s time, is he the first guy to get the ball unless Disco goes 8 full? I know some people weighed in on it yesterday, but the whole non-use is mind boggling given there was no injury. Its like his 2013 season never happened or that he had some strong starts last year or even decent performances in non-mop up session-what I interpret a long man to be…otherwise why is he not the first one out the previous 2 Marquis starts?

    • ohiojimw

      As somebody suggested yesterday, Price’s explanation didn’t make sense; and there are likely cards in the hand we haven’t seen yet.

      • Vicferrari

        Maybe when Cingrani comes out pitching with his right arm we can start concluding the his left has issues

      • ohiojimw

        how about Price saying in the radio pre game that in addition to not skipping Marquis in order to buy a day for Cueto and Bailey that they would also run Leake out ahead of Bailey to get Bailey a second extra day and that for the next couple weeks whenever they had an opportunity to get Bailey an extra day or two they would because he was still recuperating from his off season elbow surgery?

        Maybe Cingrani was closer to being back in the rotation than anyone realized but they’ve decided the bullpen is more urgent for now

    • CTRedsFan

      The Reds front office and manager suffer from a severe lack of creativity. They pigeon-hole guys into a role and refuse to use the player any other way.

      That’s one of the big differences between Price and manager’s like Maddon and Matheny, they are willing to use their players in any circumstance they think can help them win a game.

      • ohiojimw

        yep. seems like staying to form and always being set for tomorrow is more important to Reds org than maximizing the chances of winning today

  7. John Pence

    Are these teams going to wait until the end of July, when the Cubs next return to GABP, to play yesterday’s wash-out? The Cubs go home for a night game tomorrow (Pittsburgh) and we entertain the Brew-Ha-Ha’s, so why not, as the greatest Cub of all, Ernie Banks would say, “let’s play two?” The rain has moved out, so I think we’d be safe to play.

    • Vicferrari

      Never understood the logic in this, why wait?, would not mess up the rotation too bad, hopefully the Reds can get the win 2 wins in 4 series against the Cards and Cubs is beyond a nightmare start

  8. tct

    ” I continually find it hard to cheer for this team when I know success will just prolong Jocketty’s stay in Cincinnati, thus keeping the roster mismanagement at a maximum for years to come.”

    I feel this way too. I want the Reds to win, obviously, but any success will validate the poor decisions of the front office and the out of date philosophy they have. If they have just enough success to believe what they are doing is working, then they will continue to do it and the Reds chances of competing every year will go out the window.

    We all want a division title and a world series. But, the chances of that happening this year are very slim. The best thing for the future of the franchise might be for them to lose and lose big this year, and that’s a tough spot to be in for a fan.

    • Vicferrari

      The play of the team from mid May to the ASB might have had the same affect. I had some fond memories of early summer last season thinking they might actually make a run, then believed it was just possibly due to a ridiculous amount of injuries, sometimes firing to fire someone does result in much because the same people are hiring.

  9. CP

    Watching your 33 year old ace pitcher, who you owe about 80 million to, tear his achilles for the joy of watching him hit to a career tune of .198/.226/.285 must feel fantastic.

    And people wonder why the DH is inevitable in the NL.

    • VaRedsFan

      The NL should fast track this ASAP. (so the Reds have a spot for Mes)

      • Vicferrari

        Do we actually want Mes batting his condition? I have not seen him bat but it sound like he is able to discern a ball from a strike but that is about it

      • jdx19

        He said he has no pain doing anything other than squatting to catch. Of course, he could be lying, but he’s still a better hitter than most other Reds in the lineup.

  10. CTRedsFan

    If Wainwright’s injury is season ending, and since it happened while he was at the plate, it will probably heighten the NL DH debate. I have always been against the NL DH but I really don’t like seeing a team, even the Cardinals, lose their ace while batting or running the bases.

    • seat101

      Perhaps we could tell the pictures to stop throwing the ball. Then their arms would never get hurt.

      • spro

        I didn’t know pictures used their arms?

      • seat101

        I apologize for my poor voice recognition system and my quick trigger finger to post.

  11. VaRedsFan

    Gold glove play by Cozart for the DP. Luckily, Fowler was running on the play.

  12. jdx19

    I think the Votto “hot streak” is officially over. Thankfully, even when he isn’t hot he’s still a great hitter.

  13. Kurt Frost

    Typical. I can’t believe we have this guy under control for 6 years.

    • jdx19

      ?

      Over-react much to a solo home run?

    • Vicferrari

      What does his mean? The starting pitcher is awful because he cannot go 3 starts without giving up a solo homerun

      • Kurt Frost

        I saw that last week when Bailey gave up a home run. Just thought I’d repeat it.

      • Vicferrari

        I say a lot of ironic things that go over people’s heads that are also hilarious- so your timing was spot on now that I know where you are coming from

  14. VaRedsFan

    Low and away fastball driven out the other way by Montero

  15. jdx19

    Disco getting shelled by the bottom half of the order. Homer. double, and near double. All hit well.

    • Vicferrari

      Shelled? Overreact much to a solo homer and a 2 out double with the pitcher on deck?

      • Vicferrari

        Could not resist due to comments above

      • jdx19

        Perhaps you should have read the entire post…

        He gave up 3 hard-hit balls, which was all I was trying to say.

  16. Doctor K

    A Reds pitcher throwing too many strikes? This guy is making a lot of good pitches but seems to be hitting the zone too often. Needs to throw a few “set up” pitches out of the zone to keep guys from squaring him up. Much like he did there on that last AB

  17. VaRedsFan

    There is the bad side to batting the pitcher 8th.

  18. VaRedsFan

    The movement on Arietta’s cutter reminds me of Mariano Rivera

  19. jdx19

    Arrieta perfect through 2 innings. Business as usual.

    • VaRedsFan

      Glass half full…we haven’t struck out yet! 🙂

      • Vicferrari

        Boesch’s AB almost doubled his pitch count, maybe he only goes 7

  20. doublenohitter

    Reds just beating the ball in the ground.
    After the great start by Cozart, he is back to being…Cozart.

  21. CBD

    this has a feeling of another Sunday off for the Reds… 2 hits, 1 run.

    hope I’m wrong

    • Doctor K

      This Reds team just isn’t very exciting to watch. There are circumstances (Hamilton on base, Chapman/Cueto pitching) when it’s entertaining, but by and large just not a fun team. Or at least that’s my impression nearly a month into the season.

      • kywhi

        Your impression is correct. Worst I have seen in many seasons. Every time they get behind by a run you just feel the game is over.

  22. doublenohitter

    Is this game in Chicago? It sure sounds like it based on crowd response. The only Reds fan I can hear is Steve mancuso.

  23. spro

    Why do you throw 2 straight outside fastballs to the hitter that took you deep on a 1st pitch outside FB in his first AB?

  24. AARON

    Anyone here think the Reds can score 3 runs while keeping the Cubs to 0?

    • charlottencredsfan

      This is a huge out to get or it’s going a tough slog.

  25. VaRedsFan

    Don’t know if the scouting report was to pitch Montero away, but it’s not working

  26. vegastypo

    Just saw this from Sheldon, regarding Mes …

    “Unless we get into a situation where we feel we need a player that can do more than solely pinch-hit, he’ll continue to do his rehab in preparation to get back behind the plate,” Reds manager Bryan Price said. “It will still be a few more days before we kick the tires on Devin getting down into the crouch and doing some catching work. At this point in time, he can still contribute as an offensive player. In the big picture, he replaced Chris Dominguez, and Chris was getting some limited opportunities to play as a pinch-hitter, but it can be a very valuable role.”

  27. doublenohitter

    Was that correct that I saw something that said the Reds bullpen had the most walks in baseball? And it wasn’t close?

  28. seat101

    Our pitcher has seen nearly 30% of the pitches that the opposing pitcher has thrown.

  29. VaRedsFan

    Again, right there, batting the pitcher 8th, took the bat out of Coghlan’s hands and gave Disco the chance to get of the inning

    • VaRedsFan

      unfortunately he kept throwing Russell strikes when he didn’t have to. Brantley kept saying just that….let him fish for balls off the plate.

    • RedAlert

      Dude throwing batting practice today

      • RedAlert

        Reds won’t come close to scoring 5

  30. charlottencredsfan

    Frazier’s error didn’t help.

    • vegastypo

      good point, all of the runs are unearned. Reds can’t afford to have to try to out-hit mistakes like that.

  31. vegastypo

    Brantley keeps saying not to make the pitches so good at 1-2, and he keeps putting pitches right there. Sad.

  32. Paul

    I said before the season started that my low expectations would make it easier to watch the Reds this year, regardless of how they do. I was wrong. This team is so painful to watch right now. Ugh.

    • Doctor K

      I could not agree more. I thought last year was rough. This has somehow managed to be worse. I love Reds baseball, but this is going to be a really long summer I’m afraid.

  33. RedAlert

    Reds becoming the Cub’s whipping boy

    • RedAlert

      No worry – we still got 144 games left if you think like Walt and Price –

  34. kywhi

    Too bad there is not a mercy rule. No way the Reds score five-plus runs against good pitching.

  35. Jeremy Forbes

    Frazier going deep to break up the perfect game/no hitter/shutout.

  36. Dayton Ducks

    I’m already getting depressed thinking of the Cubs returning here later in the season, seeing a sea of blue taking over GABP…someone say something encouraging!

  37. CP

    Unfortunately, I am starting to feel pretty good about my prediction of 72 wins in the prediction thread.

  38. charlottencredsfan

    Byrd pretty much swings at anything.

  39. VaRedsFan

    Just when there was a little bit of hope….Byrd. He did put up a decent AB however, with a few hard hit fouls

    • charlottencredsfan

      He gets his bat started on every pitch

      • Silence Dogood

        I think Father Time is catching up with him. He’s at that point where he has to “cheat” to be on time with the fastball. I see it with BP as well. As cagey old veterans, they’ll guess right sometimes but they are also very prone to being fooled.

  40. Dayton Ducks

    Drat! Byrd up with two outs and runners on…I had so much hope!

    • kywhi

      Outside of Votto you could say the same thing about every Reds hitter at this point.

  41. charlottencredsfan

    Cubs taking some huge swings.

  42. Philboyd

    The only way to watch the Reds this year is to root for a win, but also root for a loss as a step closer to forcing ownership to fire Price and Jocketty to appease a fan base that will swiftly move through the stages of anger, rebellion, acceptance and finally to apathy.

    • Tom Reed

      The process is under way. Sooner or later Bob C. will have to pull the plug.

  43. jdx19

    Hey hey Meso! Let’s do some damage!

    • jdx19

      Not sure why you don’t go with Bruce though against a righty. Mesoraco really isn’t very good against righties. Bad, actually.

  44. vegastypo

    And Kevin Gregg is in the bullpen. Cingrani must be posing for pictures for the next milk carton.

    Mesoraco to pinch hit.

  45. spro

    Finally Mesoraco is the 1st PH off the bench. Now why is Gregg warming up, and not Cingrani???

    • kywhi

      Because Price said Cingrani deserves shot as 8th inning man, and u know how roles are with Price.

    • Michael

      Cingrani is a new Set-up man … so even though he hasn’t pitched since 2011, Price saving him for high leverage situations now.

      So could be another week before we see him!

  46. charlottencredsfan

    Need to cash all those baserunners in.

    • jdx19

      Let’s get cashin’! THis is likely the REds 1 chance to make a big dent.

  47. spro

    Odds are we’ll tie it up and Gregg will be coming in

    • vegastypo

      My wife won’t admit, but she has been hiding all sharp objects for a few days now.

  48. jdx19

    Reds sure are doing the RBI ground out thing well! That is 3 of ’em in the last 14 innings, I think.

  49. Doctor K

    With Meso out, why not move Phillips to the two hole instead of clean up? BP hits into a ridiculous amount of DPs, but with Hamilton on in front of him there’s a chance that Hamilton’s speed could limit that. Votto hits third, Frazier fourth. I know BP is best suited for 7th, but 2nd has to be better than 4th.

    • spro

      2nd would get BP even more ABs. Last year there were a ridiculous amount of games that ended after the 2 batter with Votto standing on deck

  50. spro

    What a great AB! Beats a sac fly anyday

  51. vegastypo

    Wasn’t this guy’s pitch count at about 40 to start the 4th inning? Amazing.

  52. charlottencredsfan

    Great time for BP’s first X-base hit.

  53. jdx19

    4th infield pop up this year in a big situation for TOdd.

    • Matt

      I was just thinking feel like I’ve been seeing a lot of those from Todd when we have a chance to do damage. Apparently I’m not just imagining things.

  54. spro

    That would’ve been a DP too if there had only been 1 out.

  55. jdx19

    88 down the middle, take it. JUnk in the dirt, swing. Wonderful, BP.

  56. Michael

    Perfect spot for Tony to take two innings off the books; but nah.

  57. jdx19

    Todd has hit more infield fly balls than line drives so far this season.

      • jdx19

        Oh, wait. I lied.

        22.7% IFFB means 22.7% of his fly balls are infield flyballs.

        He’s hit 13 LDs, couting that homer, and 6 IFFB, counting that out a minute ago.

      • jdx19

        For comparison’s sake, Votto has hit 6 IFFB since the start of the 2009 season. THat’s not a typo.

    • jdx19

      22.2% LD, 22.7% iFFB coming into this game. Not sure if fouls count.

  58. VaRedsFan

    both BP an Todd took strike one right down the middle, which is why i don’t give a hoot weather batters swing at 1st pitches, provided they are strikes.

    • charlottencredsfan

      You would think that until you have strike, you are sitting on a fatty.

  59. vegastypo

    Saw this on Twitter from Bill Plunkett, who covers the Dodgers for the Orange County Register.

    Mattingly said Puig could be ready to play in 4/5 days but #Dodgers don’t want to continue back-forth. “Get thing right for the long haul”

  60. kywhi

    After those ABs by Frazier and Phillips, you have to wonder if the torture will ever stop.

  61. Matt

    This team is just getting so hard to watch.

  62. AARON

    Cincinnati Reds

    BA .221 (13th in NL)
    OPB .288 (13th in NL)
    OPS .641 (12th in NL)

    Gee.

    • jdx19

      Replace Votto’s with league average numbers and I guarantee the Reds are dead last in every category.

    • jdx19

      That is just a byproduct of them hitting poorly in all other situations as well.

      • AARON

        Oddly their OBP ticks up slightly … shows they are willing to take walks to load the bases but can’t get hits to get them in.

      • jdx19

        Honestly, this early in the season, that difference could easily be because of two IBBs to Votto with 1st base open.

  63. VaRedsFan

    Boesch 3 hard hit balls today….back to the bench you go.

  64. Doctor K

    This guy has 105 pitches through 6 innings, and the Reds have 2 runs. That almost seems mathematically impossible.

    • Tom Reed

      Not impossible against an offensive machine like the Reds.

  65. RedAlert

    K Byrd at it again – geeze – this guy is pathetic – must have some compromising pictures on Price

  66. RedAlert

    Inexcusable that Price has not used Cingrani in games before now – just INEXCUSABLE !!!!

  67. Mack Ashley Potter

    So NOW we see Cingrani? RAOTFLOL!!!!!!!!!
    I just don’t understand Bryan Price. I actually question EVERY SINGLE MOVE the man makes. This game isn’t on him, it’s on Byrd, Phillips, & Frazier. But when the manager is putting you behind the 8-ball day after day after day, it’s get hard after a while.

    Reds are 0 for last 21 with RISP.

  68. RedAlert

    The fact that Congrani is not in the starting rotation over Marquis tells me all I need to know about the ineptitude of Bryan Price

  69. spro

    Wait, one of our relievers didn’t walk someone? Who is this guy? Oh yea, Cingrani, our 2nd best reliever

  70. Mack Ashley Potter

    I had visions of the Reds being in 1st place at the All Star break, hanging on to Cueto at least the rest of the season, and maybe with the influx of money from being in 1st and winning the division, plus revenues from the All Star Game, having a chance to keep Cueto. But if this garbage keeps up, it’s going to be, AND SHOULD BE, a fire sale. You take nothing less than a Kris Bryant + Addison Russell type trade for Cueto, the best you can get out of Phillips and Bruce, PRAY that Homer gets it together and someone like the Yankees will take on his salary if the Reds eat some of it, and just…..start…..over.

    • jdx19

      I’m not sure Mike Trout would get Bryant and Russell in a trade.

      Cueto’s good. He’s not that good.

    • Matt

      If the Cubs would take Cueto for Addison Russell, you do that deal now.

  71. CBD

    At what point does this just become stubbornness of BP and WJ? Seemingly every baseball mind continually questions decisions made by management … and yet they keep the same policy… unwilling to try a different approach.

    Have to wonder how it affects the team too.

  72. VaRedsFan

    FWIW, this ump has been fantastic calling balls and strikes.

  73. GeauxReds

    Good to finally see Cingrai. Hope to see much more of him. It takes a big man to admit he was wrong. I’m glad Price is finally using perhaps the 4th best pitcher on our team.

    on a separate note, I partially tore my Achilles a few years ago. It is a really nagging injury. I’m not sure if Adam Wainwright will ever feel fully well again. It will be interesting to see if they put him in a boot for months or opt for sergury. I would guess sergury. Since he is a pitcher I’d imagine he will be ok. Maybe his future is in the AL.

      • GeauxReds

        Yeah, it is no joke. Very painful and slow to heal. But medicine has come a long way since 1970.

  74. jdx19

    Votto’s officially in a slump.

    Swung and missed at 5 fastballs so far today and fouled off 5 more. Put 0 into play. His 1 ball in play was the lazy fly ball on a 1st inning change up.

    Settle in for some crappy weeks of Reds baseball until Votto gets hot again, folks.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Used to it.☺

  75. AARON

    I would of rather had Hamilton try to go for an inside the park HR… let votto lead off an inning lol

  76. Mack Ashley Potter

    @jdx19
    If Jeff Samardzija can bring you Addison Russell, Dan Straily, Billy McKinney, and a player to be named, Johnny Cueto can bring you something close to Kris Bryant and Addison Russell. There is a HUGE difference in a guaranteed #1 starter VS two unproven rookies. It would take the right trade with the right club, but the Reds should take nothing less than the farm for Cueto.

    • CP

      No, unfortunately not. An extra year of control of Samardzija matters more than anything else. Plus, there was another pitcher in the deal that the Cubs threw in.

    • jdx19

      Mack, I think you are over-valuing Cueto, or perhaps undervaluing Bryant. Maybe before this year you can say Bryant is completely unproven, but after his success in ST and his success so far this year, it’s pretty clear he isn’t going to be a complete bust. Maybe he’s not the second coming of Babe Ruth, but he has skills that translate to pro-ball and are somewhat projectable.

      Russell is a bit more of an unknown since he is younger and has a shorter track record at AAA (very short).

      MAYBE you get one or the other (I still don’t think they trade Bryant for Cueto straight up), but getting two of the best 3 prospects in baseball for an aging starting pitcher with some history of injury just won’t happen.

      Also, the Samardzija thing was a bit of a special situation. Billy Beane has been to the playoffs without huge success a number of times. Last year was his “all-in” moment. He overpaid for Samardzija, IMO.

      So, maybe if you can get someone to overpay for Cueto you could get close to the two blue-chip prospect level you think he will command in trade, but I really don’t think any GM would be as desperate as Beane was last year. He wanted it bad, from all accounts.

      Also, beyond it all, I think you are over-valuing a pitcher. Cueto is likely to never accumulate more than 4 WAR in a season from this point on. Bryant will probably hit 4 WAR this year. If he stays away from LF or 1B (negative positional adjustment), he will provide a ton of value that pitcher’s cant match throwing once every 5 days. A guy like Russell, if he plays above average defense at shortstop/2B and bats like he’s projected to (.280/.350/.450) he’ll be an easy 4+ win player.

  77. GeauxReds

    I can’t watch Cingrani without getting a little upset. Where the heck has he been all year?

      • GeauxReds

        For a former pitching coach to go with unknown entities over this warrior competitor is beyond me.

    • Michael

      Right where he always is. On the bench now.

    • Tom Reed

      Price has been saving him for long bullpen gigs.

  78. vegastypo

    Look at it this way. They have to bring in Marmol one of these innings, right?

  79. vegastypo

    From Lance McAllister on Twitter:

    “This team has struggled to hit w/RISP season after season after season. I don’t know what you do, other than blow things up”-Marty

  80. RedAlert

    Jay is just bad – he can’t even put the bat on the ball – just pitiful

  81. RedAlert

    Bad baseball, bad manager, bad from office = adds up to a long, long season

  82. Jeff Morris

    Not sure why they didn’t play a double header today, to make up for the rain out yesterday? With the Reds not hitting with runners in scoring position, yes….this has been a problem for a while now. If you have the same players…..doing the same thing year after year, and expect things to be different? then, you are wrong! You can’t have hitters that strikeout alot (more than the average team in the MLB) like the Reds do, and expect to hit with runners in scoring position. Bruce is too inconsistent at the plate and strikes out wayyyy toooo much. Phillips is not a true cleanup hitter, and is declining as a player (I think his average has dropped off each of the last three years). Byrd is off to a very slow start and is getting old. You look at the teams that are consistently competing year after year, like the Cardinals or Tigers and they have players that you know are doing to drive in 90 to 100 runs per year. I know its early in the year, but I just don’t see the Reds being at the top of the NL in Hitting. I think they will either be in the middle or probably be towards the bottom.