The Cincinnati Reds (8-7) finish out their 10-game road trip in an afternoon game against the Milwaukee Brewers (2-13). After a horrible start in Chicago and St. Louis, the Reds could actually have a 5-5 road trip with a win today.

After showing 2015 year-to-date numbers yesterday, I thought it best to show the 2014 stats for each of today’s pitchers:

Homer Bailey 3.71 3.93 1.0 7.5% 20.5%
Kyle Lohse 3.54 3.95 1.0 5.5% 17.3%

Homer Bailey has had one start against St. Louis where he walked three and didn’t strike out a batter. It’s the first time he’s not struck out anyone in a start since September 23, 2009. Last week’s start and the 2009 start are the only two times that he’s pitched 3 innings or more and not struck out a batter.

Kyle Lohse has allowed 18 runs over 15.2 innings in his first three starts of the season. While he’s walked only three batters, he’s allowed 24 hits including four homeruns.

Todd Frazier gets a day off in the Reds lineup with Kristopher Negron getting a spot start. Zack Cozart is elevated to the 2nd spot in the order. Tucker Barnhart gets his second start of the year behind the plate.

  1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
  2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
  3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
  4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
  5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
  6. Marlon Byrd (R) LF
  7. Kristopher Negron (R) 3B
  8. Tucker Barnhart (S) C
  9. Homer Bailey (R) P

The batting lineup for the Brewers is the same as last night except that Logan Schafer is playing center field over Gerardo Parra:

  1. Jean Segura (R) SS
  2. Elian Herrera (S) 2B
  3. Ryan Braun (R) RF
  4. Adam Lind (L) 1B
  5. Khris Davis (R) LF
  6. Aramis Ramirez (R) 3B
  7. Logan Schafer (L) CF
  8. Martin Maldonado (R) C
  9. Kyle Lohse (R) P

Only four MLB teams since 1934 have stolen more than 17 stolen bases to start the season:

1942 Cubs: 21
2006 Orioles: 20
2007 Twins: 19
1987 Cubs: 19
2015 Reds: 17
2006 Padres: 17
1941 Braves: 17

(h/t to Joel Luckhaupt for the stats)

Someone get this to Bryan Price, stat! Dave Cameron wrote that the closer role is slowly dying with a case-in-point example in last night’s Red Sox versus Rays game. Former Reds prospect Brad Boxberger is serving as the Rays closer this season. However, with the heart of the Red Sox order due up in the top of the 7th inning:

Rather than risk a weaker member of his bullpen giving up the lead to Boston’s best hitters, Cash went with his relief ace, and Boxberger responded by striking out the side. The Rays then took a two run in the bottom of the seventh inning, and after regular setup man Kevin Jepsen pitched the 8th, the Rays handed the ball to Steve Geltz to pitch the ninth inning, where he recorded the first save of his career.

Be careful if you order off the dollar menu at Kauffman Stadium because “well, they’re a dollar, so you get what you get“. If they look like this, then you just don’t serve them:

As a roller coaster enthusiast, I’m excited for a chance to ride the first launched, wing roller coaster later this year.

If the Reds pull off a sweep today, they will be no worse than one-half game behind second place Chicago heading into this weekend series against the Cubs.


362 Responses

  1. charlottencredsfan

    Homer should fare much better today. Runs may be at a premium again today.

    Go Reds!

    • jdx19

      Agree on both counts. When do you think Votto is likely to get his first day off? Maybe against a tough lefty?

  2. The Next Janish

    Man this is the earliest game thread ever. Cozart in the 2 spot either Price went crazy or he’s playing the hot hand. I hope Cozart rewards him for this, but I hope this plan is for the day as Frazier is resting. Otherwise I’ll be cursing this tomorrow. 🙂

  3. Pooter

    Good to see Cozart higher up in the lineup. But I don’t like the two spot though. I really like the JV, BHam tandem. I don’t think they should be broken up.

    • The Next Janish

      Yeah, I agree I think it makes for good synergy. But the cozy coupe has been firing on all cylinders, but it would be ridiculous to put him in the 3,4 , or 5 spot.

  4. WVRedlegs

    Sunny and 41 degrees in Milwaukee. Is the roof going to be open or closed for this game?

    • renbutler

      Checked their Twitter and Facebook, but no info.

      The Colts do a pretty good job of communicating roof status on social media, and I appreciate that as a fan.

    • Matt WI

      It’ll be closed. They are very picky about having the roof open for some reason. At best, the back panels will be open, but I was there on a 65 degree sunny day against the Pirates last week– it was closed.

  5. vegastypo

    Not sure if this was covered last night, but Devin supposedly made a comment that he would be pinch hitting “for a while,” according to Thom. Has anybody heard anything more specific about a time frame?

    C Trent had this a few days ago: … As for trying to catch, Mesoraco said he hoped to try to catch a bullpen at some point over the final two days in Milwaukee.

    • Matt WI

      Pinch hitting for awhile?
      That’s totally acceptable by me. Oh wait, the NL doesn’t have a DH role? Uh oh.

      • renbutler

        As long as Pena is playing well at and behind the plate, don’t rush him.

      • jdx19

        Yep. Agreed. Mesoraco for the ‘rest’ of the season is better than Mesoraco now and maybe not later. As long as Pena is walking and slapping singles, he’s a welcome addition to the lineup.

      • RiverCity Redleg

        Don’t rush him, as in put him on the DL or Don’t rush him, as in let him sit on the bench for a month while we play short handed.

      • renbutler

        Not a month. Have him up and available until he is either a.) 100% or b.) ready to fill in for a slumping Pena. Whichever comes first.

  6. jdx19

    Byrd, Negron, Barnhart, Pitcher, Hamilton, Cozart from 6-2. If none of those guys have a good day we could be looking at another 1-2 run game.

    • Pooter

      So what you’re saying is JV is could possibly our only source of offense today?

      • The Next Janish

        Come on now! JV is the offense :-). We’d be brewing if it weren’t for Joey.

      • Pooter

        I like the new term “Brewing.” That replaces the dubious verbage of “Cubbing.” I like it!

  7. MRob

    Wouldn’t mind seeing someone else in left

    • SoCalRedsFan

      Boesch needs to get a start. Byrd is just getting deeper and deeper into his own head, it seems.

      • MRob

        Exactly give him a day to get right. Do something other than running out there every dag gum day!

    • Greg Dafler

      With the 1990 team reunion this weekend, I heard that Billy Hatcher was going to be activated for a game in LF!

  8. Art Wayne Austin

    It’s apparent Mes is over-reacting to being hit in his mask by foul tips. After recovering from this latest one he needs to go to left-field.

    • Matt WI

      What???? What does that have to do with a bum hip? What context am I missing here?

      • George Mirones

        Art has either missed the hip issue or is thinking outside the box and saying that the mask hits have scared him and we weren’t told the full extent of the “non-concussion”
        Just trying to read between the lines.

  9. Art Wayne Austin

    Mes’s body language from the last foul tip to the mask indicated he expected to be taken out or attended to by the trainer. No doubt he has a hip injury but the over-riding question is can you continue catching a player who can’t tolerate a baseball tip to the mask?

    • George Mirones

      Hey, (see above) Art thank you, You maybe onto something as Devin only talks about hitting, not catching.

  10. jdx19

    Votto now tied with Adrian Gonzalez for the MLB lead in WAR at 1.4.

    Gonzalez has maintained silly numbers .434/.500/.868, but has not homered since hitting his 5th on the 3rd day of the season.

      • Ryan Lykins (@ryan_lykins)

        I know Cozart’s start isn’t sustainable but it is great to see after the year he had last year. Maybe he came in motivated after last season and the perceived competition from Suarez. He has looked really good so far. Hopefully he can keep it up.

      • jdx19

        Absolutely. Also, since WAR is cumulative, he’s got that 0.8 WAR in the bag. As long as he maintains at-or-above replacement level, he’s got a nice jump on last year. With his elite defense, it’s pretty reasonable to expect at least a 2.0 WAR season from Cozart.


    Byrd OPS .265, starts all 4 games. -1.0 WAR…. whose brother – in – law is this guy?

    • George Mirones

      Paterson gave Byrd the pictures of Walt and a lady of the night. Worked before with Dusty.


        yup, always thought corey had something on dusty….Edgar Renteria also


        sorry, Steve…..I blame it on Byrd, Price and Jocketty…I apologize for the language, but stand by the message

  12. VaRedsFan

    Bailey always seems to struggle against Mil. Here are his Innings/ER for the last 2 years vs. them:

    5 innings 3 ER
    6 innings 3 ER
    5.2 Innings 4 ER
    7 Innings 6 ER

    6 Innings 3 ER
    6.1 Innings 4 ER
    8 Innings 3 ER

    Maybe he fares better against a depleted Brewers Lineup

  13. sultanofswaff

    I don’t like Byrd’s hand position at all. For a guy late to the ball at his age, holding your hands down by your waist isn’t helping.

  14. jdx19

    Since I’m at work, spreadsheet shananigans are a bit easier to get away with than Gameday screen shenanigans. As such, I decided to do some looking at Mr. Cozart’s performance, thus far.

    Using the expected BABIP formula (xBABIP) along with his batted ball data, I have calculated that Cozart’s xBABIP is .316. This is far higher than his career average of .278, but much lower than his current BABIP of .341.

    Since there is a big difference in xBABIp with his career BABIP, what gives?

    Well, He’s actually hitting fewer line drives than career, which is interesting. Ground balls and fly balls are slighlty up. The biggest difference comes in his decrease in infield fly ball percentage (IFFB%). Career, he’s at 14% infield flies. This year, 5.9%. This is the biggest factor, thus far, as to why Cozart’s xBABIP is 36-points higher than his career BABIP. IFFBs are convereted to hits about 0% of the time.

    Even with small sample sizes, if there’s a change in Cozart’s approach or swing from before, we could reasonably expect him to do better than his career BABIp average!

    For fun, I ran Votto’s numbers. His career BABIP is .356 (one of the highest in history) and his current BABIP is .381. What’s his expected BABIP? .399. Unbelievable. The numbers say they actually think Votto has gotten slightly unlucky this year. Crazy.

  15. Matt WI

    Brantley is right on it… Homer only throwing in the high 80’s. Not good.

    • eric nyc

      Good thing we have him locked up for 5 more years…

    • Steve Mancuso

      Brantley also said it was a normal part of recovering from surgery. Would take a while for Homer to get back to full velocity.

      • charlottencredsfan

        In the long run, that may not be bad thing. Looks skillful so far – I like this Homer.

  16. eric nyc

    Thought the game was starting later. I’ll ignore Bailey for the moment…What is this lineup? Did they let Dusty phone this one in today for old time’s sake?

    • Matt WI

      I can’t complain too much. They’ve been on a long run, have to travel, and a big series against the Cubs, with big crowds expected for the ’90 Team celebration. A little rest is ok by me… although, if anybody, it ought to have been Byrd. That just kind of hurts.

      • eric nyc

        Yeah having Byrd/Barhnhart with no Frazier is what bothered me. It makes sense, but it seems like Price could have set it up so that he didn’t have to do the full on JV team today.

    • renbutler

      Frazier and Pena out. Cozart moved up accordingly. What’s the big deal?

      • eric nyc

        Oof…this is going to be a quick game

  17. VaRedsFan

    no hitter/perfect game alert for Lohse

    • Matt WI

      Nah. They’ll perk up. Very early.

    • earmbrister

      Thanks for bursting his bubble

  18. renbutler

    I know he’s well like around here (I like him too), but Negron looks just as lost as Schumaker and worse than Boesch, in just about equal playing time.

  19. eric nyc

    Over/under on the duration for this game? Could set a record.

  20. Pooter

    I smell a pitchers’ duel brewing today. Red alert!

  21. charlottencredsfan

    Billy, nice stroke. On top of that ball and hit it well. That will work!

  22. Steve Mancuso

    Nice controlled line drive swing by Billy.

  23. charlottencredsfan

    Never separate JV & BHam. Ever!

    • ProspectCincy

      If it ain’t broke, Price will try to fix it.

      And if it is broken, Price will have no idea.

      • earmbrister

        It’s only dumb if you ignore the boxscore. You have more than half of your lineup batting at .200 or below.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Must be ignoring the box scores than. Billy getting on-base frequently enough is the only question. IMO, Price is being too clever by half.

      • charlottencredsfan

        EA – would have preferred: BHam-JV-ZC.

  24. VaRedsFan

    Strike-out-less streak over as Homer strikes out the opposing pitcher

  25. RedAlert

    Potty mouth just had to move Votto out of that 2 hole today – DON’T FIX IT IF IT AINT BROKE BRYAN

    • RedAlert

      You wanna fix something Price how bout Let “K” Byrd view the game from inside the dugout instead of out there in the grass

  26. eric nyc

    I think Frazier gets to that ball…

  27. eric nyc

    Bailey can’t catch a break today.

  28. Steve Mancuso

    Intelligent play by Brandon Phillips to let that ball bounce for easy double play.

  29. charlottencredsfan

    Homer looking pretty good even if he isn’t dominant. I think they call that “pitching”.

  30. Jeremy Forbes

    Getting the job done against a seriously depleted Brewers lineup, but the loss of velocity on Bailey’s fastball is a bit worrying.

    2014: 94.2 mph
    2015 1st Start: 92.1 mph
    2015 2nd Start: 90.4 mph

    • charlottencredsfan

      Homer was coming off injuries this year and 2014. I’m not too worried. A month from now? Yes.

  31. eric nyc

    Jay Bruce has 7 hits that aren’t HR’s this year. He has only 4 more hits than Byrd.


    did i just hear Thom compare Bruce’s struggles to Byrd’s? Not in the same solar system!!

    • eric nyc

      Actually very similar lines minus the HR’s.

      • Matt WI

        Yeah… I agree. I could put it in the same solar system if I’m honest.

      • Matt WI

        Oh see! Byrd even has a HR now! Wow!

      • Steve Mancuso

        Almost identical except for batting average, on base percentage and power.

    • earmbrister

      Marty reported 421 feet. Nice.

  33. lwblogger2

    Oh my goodness! Byrd actually can hit a hanging slider!

  34. Kurt Frost

    Cut Byrd!!!! Wait…. What!?? Nevermind.

    • mad at walt

      even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then

      • Big56dog

        Now is about time as then has been painful to watch, I still feel Byrd will finish with the 4th best OPS among the regulars (I guess I am writing Mes off this season -seems exactly how Votto was handled last year)

  35. Ohioindiaspora

    We wish you many more, Byrdman!

  36. Pooter

    That ball flew out compliments of Byrd!

  37. Kyle Farmer

    Hey, I’m at work and it seems that Gameday is malfunctioning. It just said that Marlon Byrd hit a home run! What?

  38. VaRedsFan

    Not watching. Did Lohse throw it underhanded or something?

    • earmbrister

      Don’t look now, but Byrd’s HR pulls him into a tie for fifth on the team in RBI’s (with Mr. RBI BP).

    • RedAlert

      Trying to take the championship belt from Homerun Hoover

  39. VaRedsFan

    So much for the lead. It’s Homer 2014 all over again.

    • mad at walt

      same old song and Homer is his name o

  40. lwblogger2

    Is it just Gamecast or is Bailey’s fastball really 89-91?

    • charlottencredsfan

      Yes but I think he is battling pretty nicely. Hold down through the rest of this inning and the 6th, I’m good.

      • lwblogger2

        Yeah, seems like he’s battling and I like Bailey. Any dropoff in velocity after injury worries me though, especially when it’s a power pitcher.

  41. rfay00

    Good news is that he has limited the dingers to one run per.

  42. Mr.RedlegsBigStache

    I’m watching on MLB Gameday so someone might have to verify this, but on the computer it is consistently calling changeups and fastballs at 90 mph. Each of the balls hit for homeruns were 89 and 90 mph fastballs according to Gameday. What happened to Bailey’s Velocity?

    • mad at walt

      Gis payday went up and is velocity goes down he is set for life don’t have to worry about velocity anymore

    • Matt WI

      Brantley has been saying he believes it’s just part of getting back and stretching out his muscles all the way. Not necessarily assumed to be stuck there.

  43. Kyle Farmer

    Going to be a long few years if Mr. 100 Million’s fastball is 90.

  44. SoCalRedsFan

    Homer’s velocity will come back. If he can learn a few new tricks because of the lowered velocity, he’ll be a better pitcher when his arm gets back to 100%.

    • renbutler

      And it’s not like they’re crushing a ton of balls. The stat line isn’t great, but I don’t think he’s doing as poorly as some are suggesting, for a guy still fresh from rehab.

  45. Matt WI

    Time to get on Lohse. He’s feeling way to comfortable. Let’s run the ERA back up there!

    • VaRedsFan

      Swing-happy Cozart needs to take a few

      • earmbrister

        The Cowboy (lord I hate that nickname), actually made a good point of this not being a good running situation. Quick delivery by Lohse, and a great arm behind the plate.

  46. charlottencredsfan

    Wonder if Billy is keeping that bat on his shoulder for so long, so he stays back? Another BB for Ham.

    • mad at walt

      number two spot not the place for Zack Cozart

      • mad at walt

        everyone’s honest opinion who is the worst unpire Joe West or Angel Hernandez

      • mtkal

        I was thinking about that last night. I think I agree with SOCAL. West is just a jerk. Neither is a great ump, but Hernandez is worse IMO.

      • earmbrister

        When you have 5 guys batting below .200 in your lineup, you can’t be too choosy.

      • RedAlert

        You at right – Everybody knew that except for Price – imagine that

  47. charlottencredsfan

    More than anything, I just don’t want to separate JV & BH. Just about a prefect mix. Cozart hitting 3rd today would have been fine.

  48. ProspectCincy

    That was a terrific play by Maldonado … just terrific. Pick, perfect throw, on a laser.


    • lwblogger2

      Yeah, he has nice feet and a cannon for an arm. Too bad I missed actually seeing it in this instance. I love good catching.

  49. eric nyc

    Billy must have gotten a terrible jump on that ball. Pitch was in the dirt and he was still out by a foot.

    • MRob

      Fastball, perfectly picked, perfect throw

    • charlottencredsfan

      Very obvious situation too, with two outs. Wasn’t even close.

  50. charlottencredsfan

    Give us one more inning HB and then Price can hopefully get this rag-tag pen to finish it out.

  51. VaRedsFan

    Welp. 10 attempts and 1 caught stealing.
    I’ll take 90% every 10 tries.
    Maldonado has a cannon.

  52. eric nyc

    Homer owes Billy a steak tonight.

  53. Mack Ashley Potter

    It takes an absolute seed right on the money to throw Billy out. And that’s exactly what Maldonaldo done. WOW. What a catch by Billy just now off the bat of Braun!

  54. ProspectCincy

    Laser central out there right now. Please make this Homer’s last inning; I know his pitch count is modest, but you have a bridge in Cingrani for a few innings; and Badenhop if you need him.

    • mad at walt

      well you got your wish Baily is out but unfortunately Gregg is going in O no there goes the game

  55. charlottencredsfan

    Nice move Price. Good enough Homer, good enough.

  56. eric nyc

    Not a terribly impressive outing from Homer.


    5.2 innings, right where Homer hit the wall in STL…oh, no !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here comes the gasoline and TNT

  58. Jake

    KEVINF GREGG?! What the asterisk are you doing Price?

    • charlottencredsfan


    • mad at walt

      price must want all reds fan using the F bomb today

  59. ProspectCincy

    Thom was priceless on the lead to commerical.

    “And there’s Kevin Gregg”. Was hilarious!

  60. Pooter

    O no! Not Gregg. Game over, folks. It was a fun one!

  61. msanmoore

    I think I’m going to be ill …

  62. renbutler

    Gregg has had two good ones in a row. How about we don’t give up until he actually screws up…

  63. Mack Ashley Potter

    I sure can think of MANY, MANY, MANY other ways the Reds could have spent 100 Million Dollars over the next 6 years than giving it to HOMER BAILEY…smh

  64. earmbrister

    Let’s hope the bottom of the Brewers lineup will roll over

  65. charlottencredsfan

    That Price is a genius, I tell you.

  66. renbutler

    Three good outings in a row for Gregg. (Assuming he’s done for the day?)


    Byrd and Gregg doing something positive…in the same game….go play the lottery now!

    • msanmoore

      Good point … I just need one other positive omen in my day.

  68. Pooter

    🙂 What a relief. Two more innings (at least) of Russian Roulette left!

  69. charlottencredsfan

    Impressed with HB. Obviously didn’t have it today but got through it.

    • SoCalRedsFan

      Anytime a pitcher can keep his team in a ballgame without close to his best stuff, I’m impressed.

  70. Jake

    Byrd hit a HR and Gregg got the last out. Who called that?

  71. mtkal

    Does anyone know what the temp is in Milwaukee today? I have to think it’s a bit chilly. I want to see how Homer does as he gets more starts and it gets warmer.

    • Matt WI

      Marty said it was mid 60’s inside the dome.

      • lwblogger2

        Gamecast says 65 at start of game. Sounds like Marty was right on for that one.

      • mad at walt

        nightmare come true price left Gregg in there goes the game

    • mtkal

      Right so he’ll be pitching in much warmer temps as the season progresses. I’ll be interested to see how he does especially velocity-wise as it warms up. Thanks guys.


    4 pitch lead off walk! If only we could see that coming!

  73. Matt WI

    Holy moley, Gameday made that walk look like a pitch out!

  74. charlottencredsfan

    Huh, might be pushing our luck here. Cingrani going on the DL?

    • lwblogger2

      Not sure where he is. He was warming up yesterday though.

  75. earmbrister

    Gregg needs to go after the bottom of the lineup. Not nibble,


    do Byrd and Gregg where the same specs?

  77. jdx19

    Pretty surprised by the amount of people upset at Homer for giving up 2 runs in 5 2/3 in his second start back from surgery…he’ll get better once he gets comfortable.

    • Matt WI

      I agree. It wasn’t awesome, but he certainly held his own. By contrast, if he had been given a two grand slam cushion like Marquis, which one performed better?

  78. lwblogger2

    Nobody up in the pen according to Thom

  79. Bruuuuuce

    I hate, absolutely HATE, when we get staked with a lead and it’s given right back in the next half inning. I don’t really know if they are worse than the average team in giving the lead right back, but it sure feels that way.

    I went back and checked and so far in 16 games, the Reds have taken the lead from the opposing team (excluding walk off wins because the opposing team doesn’t have the opportunity to bat next inning), and the Reds have taken the lead 20 times from the opposing team. In 11 of those instances, the opposing team has scored immediately the next half inning to tie or take the lead. It’s beyond frustrating.

    • RedAlert

      Reds never gonna win squat with this guy at the helm – dud loves to play with fire – doesn’t think it burns – for a guy that is supposed to be pretty intelligent, it does not translate in the dugout – unbelievable

  80. concepcion13

    Ah, this IS the Kevin Gregg we’ve been looking for.

  81. eric nyc

    Well no one is going to mistake Billy Hamilton’s arm for Bo Jackson’s…

    • lwblogger2

      It’s a little better than Johnny Damon’s or Juan Pierre’s at least.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Don’t know – has 2 assists so far. I don’t think that was his best effort.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Third highest ARM rating for CF’ers in 2014. Probably a “little” better than Pierre but not quite Damon.☺

      • lwblogger2

        Hamilton’s arm is so-so… He actually does a great job of getting rid of the bad quickly and throwing to the right spot. I wouldn’t give him too much grief.

      • lwblogger2

        That’s my eye-ball scouting report of him over 1+ seasons. Nothing official.


    jeepers, what’s wrong with Gregg? My goodness, I am so surprised give his excellent track record!

  83. Matt

    Who saw that coming?

    I was one of Price’s supporters when they were deciding who to hire. I was very happy when they chose him, but I’m going to go ahead and say it…


  84. liptonian

    Did Tony Cingrani’s arm fall off when I wasn’t watching? Where has he been?

    • ProspectCincy

      Reds broadcast just showed him … suggested he went missing but Thom says “Look, see … he’s still here”.

      • whereruklu

        Has anyone heard whether or not Bulldog (TC) is injured or not? I just sit here in my chair, but even I can’t figure Price out.sometimes.

  85. Tom Reed

    So Price brings Gregg out for the 7th. inning and there we go.

  86. Pooter

    Price should direct his f-bombs at Walt for putting Gregg on the roster, at Gregg, and at himself for leaving Gregg in time and time again.

  87. charlottencredsfan

    Gregg could be serviceable as a long man, perhaps. But I don’t get this.


    1 ER in 1.1 innings, career outing for Gregg, pretty average for our bullpen arms not named Chapman

  89. Steelerfan

    Relievers are variable, small sample sizes, one bad outing skews the results….

    But if we are going to be accountable, at one point does this end? Not a rhetorical question. When do you pull the plug? End of April? May? June? These are games that will be hard to get back later

    • RedAlert

      Bryan Price holds nobody accountable – not even himself – Joke of a manager

  90. liptonian

    Maybe Price is just really really smart. Maybe he is using up all possible innings Gregg and Para can pitch early in the season knowing that obviously the Reds will still be in the race with all those losses that they pile up. And then, when we are in the heat of the race later in the summer he won’t have any choice but to use his useful bullpen arms.

    • Steelerfan

      If true, dangerous. All games count the same in the standings, and I am not sure it is obvious we will be there in the end. Another conspiracy theory, he is trying to show the front office this guy(s) is not going to work now, so they can get help now?

    • renbutler

      Parra has pitched fewer innings than any other pitcher on the roster.

  91. SoCalRedsFan

    They should just swap bullpens with Dayton, Daytona, Pensacola or Louisville. Except Chapman, of course. It couldn’t be worse. At least Cingrani might get into a game.

  92. earmbrister

    Unfortunately, Price needs to pitch some of these guys, and he threw Gregg out vs a bottom of the lineup that was hitting below .200. Just like Hoover last year, he’s is going to have to use these guys.

    Gotta believe that Cingrani is having some arm problems, or some other issue.

    • Matt

      I understand that, but your worst reliever should be pitching when you have a 3+ run lead or deficit, not in a tie ballgame.

      • earmbrister

        Are we sure he’s our worst reliever? And do you want him as our 8th inning guy pitching to the heart of their order?

      • charlottencredsfan

        Remember the days when the lowest man in the bullpen pecking order would maybe get in 25 games, in a whole year?

      • earmbrister

        And when complete games weren’t a rarity? Foggy.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Guess one went with the other.

    • Steelerfan

      Agree. If he is on the roster you have to pitch him, and this was a relatively safe spot, much like the walk off battle a couple nights ago.

      Problem is he is proving there is no safe spot for him.

    • ProspectCincy

      But he’s not. He was in the pen warming last night; and if he had any arm trouble, the Reds would DL him. They love to DL Tony; even when Tony says he’s fine.

      It’s more a matter of not facing left handed heavy line-ups; and Price refusing to go to the pen unless he has lefty, lefty, lefty due up. Even though Tony is just as effective vs. RHH.

      • Steelerfan

        That is the concern., They are turning him into a loogy, even thought he has shown signs he should be much more than that. Want a guy to pitch to LHB only, use Parra.

      • earmbrister

        I’m thinking that the Reds believe there is a toll charge to put someone on DL. They avoid using the DL like the plague.

        If Cingrani is physically sound, Gregg, Parra, etal will force his hand with the way that they’re pitching.

  93. eric nyc

    Broxton’s contract was terrible, but I sure wish we still had him.

    • earmbrister

      He’s not setting the world on fire, but Broxton would be an improvement.

  94. eric nyc

    Negron is answering all my questions about whether last year was a fluke or not.

    • lwblogger2

      Very small sample size but that said, those among us who thought that he’s as good as he showed in limited action last year are also not correct. The truth is somewhere in the middle, as is usually the case.

  95. renbutler

    Negron just might be the WORST option off a bad bench…

  96. charlottencredsfan

    Looks like Negron has lost the strike zone. Makes me sad.

  97. eric nyc

    Frazier and Mes on the bench and you go to Brendan Boesch?

    • charlottencredsfan

      Let Barnhardt bat too?

      Price looks like he’ll be satisfied with 3 of 4 wins this series.

  98. whereruklu

    Sure bet, you won’t see Cozy in #2 tomorrow and Votto will be back in the slot. If some parts are working, you don’t try to fix them. Too many other question marks need attention before messing with your two best hitters now. Can we say “micromanage”? Go out and get some pitching before you start to shake up the 1-2-3 order that has been producing for you.

    • renbutler

      This wasn’t an attempted fix. This was an adjustment for the Frazier off day.

      Plus, even if it were an attempted fix, one day would be far from conclusive.

  99. Jake

    Well we just had the napalm now we’re stepping down to TNT

    • mad at walt

      Sub Parra doing what he does best
      Nothing good for our team

  100. charlottencredsfan

    Guess Parra needs some work too.

  101. Bruuuuuce

    If you’re Price, what do you do there? Diaz? Badenhop? Hoover? Parra? Himself?

    • liptonian

      I’ve heard of these guys Cingrani and Chapman but maybe they are just a rumor

      • Matt

        If you want to see Chappy pitch, you better have a key to the “save situation arm chastity belt.”

      • Bruuuuuce

        Cingrani I could understand, but why on earth would you bring Chapman into the 7th inning, facing Scafer, Maldanado, and a pinch hitter?

    • lwblogger2

      I’d have to think that Bryan Price might considering going to Bryan Price. I wonder if my friend Todd has anything left in the tank. He’s only a couple years older than me and was a pretty good pitcher.

  102. Matt

    Am I the only one who thinks that with Gregg to Parra, Price is just trolling everyone.

  103. Bruuuuuce

    I think some people around here think there are 10 available pitchers in the bullpen.

    “Not Gregg, bring in someone else!”
    “Not Parra, bring in someone else!”
    “Not Badenhop, bring in someone else!”
    “Not Hoover, bring in someone else!”
    “Not Diaz, bring in someone else!”

    • Matt

      Fair point. But seriously, not Gregg, bring in someone else.

    • Jake

      Anyone one not named Gregg or Parra is a good option and those are the 2 Price seems to continuously choose

  104. RedAlert

    Will say it again – REDS GONNA PRICE


    Marty mentioning Cingrani as a “forgotten man” AND HOW!

  106. Mack Ashley Potter

    Sweeps are soooo overrated. I think I’ll go with Tucker Barnhart and Negron with my catcher/3rd base combo today.

    —Bryan Price

  107. earmbrister

    Negron is having a stellar day

    • lwblogger2

      I didn’t see it but I’m guessing he tried to tag him before he actually caught the ball?

  108. lwblogger2

    The outs are getting hit pretty hard

  109. charlottencredsfan

    Looks to me that Price just ran out of gas today.

    • Jake

      There’s already plenty of fire, no need for anymore gas

  110. Mack Ashley Potter

    We have BY FAR, and I mean NO CONTEST, the WORST manager in the last 40 years of MLB. This man has no business managing a ball club. Pitching “coach”? Maybe. Manager? NOT A FREAKING CHANCE.

  111. lwblogger2

    And Skippy to pinch hit!! Oh boy!!

  112. charlottencredsfan

    Schumakker, I love it!!

    • charlottencredsfan

      Probably thinking he was due.


        sounds like his Gregg philosophy…..


    and now Schumacher……the hits just keep on coming, or not I mean

  114. renbutler

    Parra hasn’t been great, and he gives up hits and walks. But he actually hasn’t given up many runs at all this year. I don’t think perception of him here quite matches reality.

    Inevitably, comments like this are mistaken for “you love Parra” and “you think he’s great.” That’s not what I think or what I’m saying.

    • ProspectCincy

      You can give any argument you want as to why Parra isn’t as bad as you think, but when a guy has a WHIP over 3; he is God awful, regardless of the stats you look at.

      • renbutler

        Pitching isn’t about avoiding baserunners. It’s about avoiding runs. That’s what matters.

      • RiverCity Redleg

        he gives up plenty of runs. They are just attributed to other pitchers (usually Gregg). He usually comes in with men already on base, then promptly lets them score.

    • charlottencredsfan

      WHIP of 3.43 Ren. I think perception and reality are in harmony on this one.

      • renbutler

        Yes, those numbers SUCK.

        But doesn’t it matter AT ALL that his baserunners aren’t scoring? Come on, guys.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Just going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

      • liptonian

        It doesn’t matter until they do start scoring. a WHIP over 3 and few runs being given up is not a sustainable situation.

      • Jeremy Forbes

        Not allowing baserunners is how you make sure not allowing runners to score is sustainable. For his career, Parra has stranded 69.3% of runners. This season (not counting today’s game) he has stranded 87.5%. That’s not going to continue. Eventually the baserunners will catch up to him.

      • jdx19

        WHIPs over 3 aren’t sustainable either. Go look at previous year’s stats. Off the top of my head from an earlier post, last year’s worst guy with 60IPs had a 1.78 WHIP.

        Perhaps guys with 3 WHIPs get sent to AAA and don’t get 60IP. That could be…

    • Big56dog

      Pitches to 1 batter and gets bailed out by someone else have that batter gets on

    • RedAlert

      This loss is on Bryan Price period !


      she’d probably have a lower ERA, WHIP than Gregg or PArra, too


    Mes, Pena, Frazier on plane wtih C Trent

  116. charlottencredsfan

    Going to walk JV? I would.

  117. renbutler

    Negron might be the worst player on this team mediocre team right now, but they only guys who get constant criticism are the ones who allow everybody to say “I TOLD YOU SO!”

    • earmbrister

      There is a lot of that, and this team is not going to keep hitting .226.

      • jdx19

        They will likely continue to hit like .240… which isn’t far from .226.

    • bew901

      Hard to complain about a guy with 16 plate appearances. Byrd plays every day, Gregg is used in seemingly every tight game, Marquis pitches 20% of our games and Schumaker has been a costly embarrassment for long time. At least there is hope that Negron can hit .270 like he did last year. The others will all likely be worth negative WAR.

  118. whereruklu

    They are their own worst enemy. If there’s a way to lose it, they’ll find it.

  119. charlottencredsfan

    3 out of 4 ain’t bad. See you back in Cincy! Adios.


    I have 78 F’s for Bryan Price, Gregg, and Walt Jocketty

  121. Steelerfan

    Gonna want this one back at the end of the year.

  122. Pooter

    I pin this on Price from lineup construction, bullpen management, to pinch-hit decisions. Frustrating!!!

      • Pooter

        I disagree with Cozart batting second.

      • earmbrister

        As I mentioned earlier, when 5 of your 9 batters are hitting below .200, you cluster the guys who are hitting.

      • Pooter

        I realize that. But I just don’t like separating JV and BHam. Bat him third or fourth. Votto and Hamilton are a toxic tandem for opposing pitching. Cozart and Hamilton isn’t as lethal imo

      • earmbrister

        I don’t like separating them either, but this will be the exception, not the rule. Not going to fault Price for trying to capitalize on Cozart’s fast start.

  123. Jake

    Well it’s hard to win when the offense doesn’t show up or Gregg gets put in

    • RedAlert

      And overmatched by the opposing manager on a daily/nightly basis

  124. DHud

    I thought we went over this whole “Gregg-Parra” strategy thing earlier this year…

  125. Bruuuuuce

    Redleg Nation:

    “Where the coaches are fired daily!”

  126. JimS

    This team is not a good hitting team, period. They almost lost yesterday with only 4 hits and Cueto throwing 125 pitches. They scored on a wild throw. The 16 run game was an anomaly because they faced a terrible pitcher. But when they face average to above average pitchers, they will struggle.

  127. Steelerfan

    We can argue about when Gregg and Parra are used, but the fact is that as long as they are on the roster they have to be used at some point. The problem they is they are on the roster in first place, and again not asking as rhetorical question, when do you pull a plug on it? May? June? now? Do we have better options?

  128. WVRedlegs

    Two days of bashing the ball and two days of not being able to buy a hit. Typical Reds since beginning of the 2011 season.
    Can’t Somebody fix this?
    Can’t somebody put a complete 25 man roster together?
    Can’t somebody build a bench?
    Can’t somebody build a bullpen?
    We got Walt for that!

    • lwblogger2

      I did a study the feast or famine thing during the 2013 season (I think) and it was shown to be hogwash that year. They posted it here on RLN back when I wrote it. So, the feast or famine thing, at least when compared to the rest of the league was surprisingly (to me too!) rubbish.

      The person who can fix this is probably WJ and Bob C. They’d have to cut some sunk costs and make a bold move or two. It wouldn’t be super easy and there would be no guarantees. I don’t see it happening.

      See above.

      See above.

      See above.


  129. Steelerfan

    I will also ask, again not a rhetorical question but when do we decide on Byrd? So early, but for all the reasons our editors have expressed when does small sample size become a reality we need to address?

    • lwblogger2

      He hit a HR today. See, everything is fine!

  130. RiverCity Redleg

    Has Cingrani pitched in April?