The Cincinnati Reds (6-7) take the field tonight for their second game of a four game series against the Milwaukee Brewers (2-11). The Brewers lost catcher Jonathan Lucroy to the DL last night with a fractured toe. Milwaukee is now without their starters at center field, second base, and catcher.

Mike Petriello of wrote this morning about the Brewers untimely collapse.

This is the trap of indecisiveness. The Brewers never could figure out whether they were coming or going, unwilling (or unable) to commit to a rebuild or go full speed ahead on contention. What’s left is a team that was built for mediocrity with a one-in-a-million chance of something more, and what’s come up instead is something considerably less. They’re not nearly as bad as what they’ve shown, it must again be said. But that’s just accelerated the obvious, really. The team that was stuck in the middle now is firmly at the bottom, with no timetable or obvious plan to change that reality.

The following stats are all 2013 actuals for Marquis and 2014 actuals for Fiers except that the first column is the 2015 FIP projection (ZiPS) for both.

PITCHER 2015 FIP 2013/14 FIP HR/9 BB% K%
Jason Marquis 5.54 5.65 1.4 13.1% 13.9%
Mike Fiers 3.91 2.99 0.9 6.2% 27.7%

Marquis makes his third start in a Reds uniform. He’s had one QS (quality start stat, defined by 3 ER or less over 6 IP or more) against the Cardinals and one short start of four runs over 4 innings versus the Cubs. In his 10 innings, Marquis has walked 5 batters and struck out 13.

Mike Fiers has also struck out more than a batter per inning, but his feat stretches back into last year in 10 starts with the Brewers. It’s not common to see such a high strikeout rate from a guy with an 88 MPH fastball. tackled the how’s and why’s of Fiers 2014 season. Reds batters can expect to see his fastball a little over half the time. He also throws a 72 MPH curveball about 20% of the time while mixing in change-ups and cutters ranging from 82-85 MPH.

All the Reds regulars except Devin Mesoraco are in the Reds lineup.

  1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
  2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
  3. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
  4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
  5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
  6. Marlon Byrd (R) LF
  7. Brayan Pena (S) C
  8. Zack Cozart (R) SS
  9. Jason Marquis (L) P

And here is the Brewers lineup:

1. Jean Segura (R) SS
2. Elian Herrera (S) 2B
3. Ryan Braun (R) RF
4. Adam Lind (L) 1B
5. Khris Davis (R) LF
6. Jason Rogers (R) 3B
7. Logan Schafer (L) CF
8. Martin Maldonado (R) C
9. Mike Fiers (R) P

Former Reds minor leaguer Daniel Dorn is getting called up by the Arizona Diamondbacks in what would be his first major league game. Dorn was draft by the Reds in 2006 and played in the organization until 2012. He’s been in AAA since 2009, amassing 2,558 plate appearances and a .272/.348/.476 slash line.

Nick Masset is getting another shot at reliever major league starters with a promotion today by the Miami Marlins.


On paper, tonight’s game is the Brewer’s best chance of winning one in this series. Marquis will have an easier lineup than he’s faced so far, and there’s a good chance he could toss another quality start. Discuss it all here.


477 Responses

  1. The Next Janish

    Fearless prediction more inspired play and less use of symbols when we quote the manager. And of course the Toddfather delivers!

    • mikemartz

      Devin Mesoraco is back with the team, says he continues to be available for pinch-hitting duties

      • preacherj

        The only guy who can collect frequent flyer miles going from clubhouse to dugout.

  2. Pooter

    Why is Cozy still batting 8th? Byrd should be there.

    • Jeff

      I don’t understand why he doesn’t ride the hot hand and let Cozart bat higher until his streak goes away. I guess this is another example of roles and them being pre-defined.

      • BDogg

        Cozart back batting eighth is another Price headscratcher. Fiers has been the Brewers’ best pitcher so far. We need on-base, hot hitters. It will be a another offensive struggling night…

    • Vicferrari

      Why not platoon with Boesch until he gets he stroke back?

      • charlottencredsfan

        Because Brennan is a bench player and you never mix the two.

      • Vicferrari

        had almost 1500 PA from 2010 to2012, not an Allstar but definitely more than a role player. Not saying he is the answer but rather see him than Schumaker or Byrd

      • charlottencredsfan

        Agree. Had one start and hit three rockets. By my count, that is three more than Byrd has.

  3. charlottencredsfan

    Hmmmm Mike Petriello, huh. Sounds like a pretty smart guy to me.

  4. Steve Mancuso

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  5. vegastypo

    The Reds can’t score against Travis Wood. It took the Pirates one batter to score, a home run by Josh Harrison.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Marte leads off the second with another round-tripper. Yeah, we need to get Wood back to Cincinnati.☺

      • Vicferrari

        Might have a chance with him sitting in our bullpen, instead of shutting us out for all the Cub series

  6. Jeff

    Brewer’s broadcast just said “Braun’s had some good luck against Marquis” My thought is “Who doesn’t have good luck against Marquis?” I bet that list is pretty short.

  7. Jeremy Forbes

    “…never could figure out whether they were coming or going, unwilling (or unable) to commit to a rebuild or go full speed ahead on contention.”

    Sounds oddly familiar.

    Either way, I will enjoy watching the Reds beat up on the Brewers for 6 of the next 9 games. These Brewers series with no Gomez, Lucroy, or Gennett needs to be an Astro-like feast for the W-L record.

    • Vicferrari

      Hey Astos are in first place…could not believe it when I saw the standings

  8. jdx19

    I’ll be thinking of another trivia question for tonight for a free t-shirt! I’ll try to debut the question around the end of the 3rd inning, so keep watch!!

  9. charlottencredsfan

    Key to Marquis success: needs to vary speeds better than last start. Every pitch can not be 86 mph.

    • Vicferrari

      Gametracker had 89,89, 83,90 how’s that?

      • Vicferrari

        Struck out the Herrera witha 78 mph change up, hitting 90 with his FB

    • charlottencredsfan

      Yahoo! Varying speeds and and hitting corners. Go man go!

      • Vicferrari

        So whose K record is he going to break tonight, Clemons, Randy Johnson, Ryan?

      • charlottencredsfan

        Forget that. Kerry Wood!

  10. BrandonUKY

    What channel is the game on tonight?

    • charlottencredsfan

      My pleasant surprise pitcher. I like to point that out when he is cruising.

  11. Jeremy Forbes

    I’ll take striking out the side, but man.. those 4/5th sleeves…

    • charlottencredsfan

      Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

  12. charlottencredsfan

    Byrd can’t get around an 89-mph fastball that cuts the heart of the plate.

    • Eric the Red

      You took the words right out of my mouth. I see no sign he’s still got the skill to hit at this level.

      • charlottencredsfan

        I don’t think it’s a skill issue but lack of bat speed and there is not a thing anyone can do about that.

  13. jdx19

    Decided not to wait…

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    Name the player with the most career walks whose name begins with the letter “L.”

    • jdx19

      Sorry! Batter.

      And first name begins with “L.”

      • jdx19

        Haha! Nice try. FIRST NAME needs to begin with the letter “L.”

      • jdx19

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      • charlottencredsfan

        No one let Vegas leave the room – this is the shirt I owe him.

        No bailing Vegas. Give the man your information.

        Thanks JDX.

      • jdx19

        Haha! No problem!

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  14. charlottencredsfan

    Starting OF’ers 5 for their last 54 (Bruce-Ham-Byrd). Hard to win when that’s going on.

    • Eric the Red

      How dare you publish information that might help our opponents! That’s not your ***** job!

      • Vicferrari

        Great now the Brewers no where the holes in the line-up, next time keep these little nuggets to yourself. Price has got so F bombs for you

      • charlottencredsfan

        ☺ Sorry. I’ll keep my mouth shut, don’t want Price going after me..

  15. jdx19

    Tonight we have the top 3 swingers in the game featured!

    Byrd: 66.4%
    Ramirez: 62.8%
    Phillips: 61.7%

  16. jdx19

    Cozart has yet to swing and miss at a strike this year.

  17. Vicferrari

    Adam Lind messing up Marquis going for the K record

  18. Steve Mancuso

    It’s a great day to put the F in fundraising.

    • jdx19

      Oh, man… stop trying to cover your asterisk.

  19. preacherj

    I wonder how much energy those sun lamps use?

  20. charlottencredsfan

    Vottos’ back must be killing him from carrying this offense.

  21. preacherj

    Is that Ron Howard playing first base?

  22. Ohioindiaspora

    wait who is that pitching for the reds tonight? Can it really be Jason Marquis??? I thought he would have allowed at least three runs by now! Good stuff, keep it up!

    • jdx19

      If only he could pitch against the worst offense in the league every game! 😉

      • charlottencredsfan

        He pitches for them, impossible.

  23. jdx19

    Little 2-out rally here will do nicely.

  24. jdx19

    Nice! Time for Jay to do some damage!

  25. jdx19

    BP needs to teach Pena how to slide into first. When he noticed the throw going wide right, he slides on the inside of the bag. Very nice.

  26. preacherj

    He worked a full count including taking the first pitch. Where’s Brandon?

  27. preacherj

    Get out the mustard, Jay brought the salami!!!!!!!

  28. jdx19

    How about 4 straight guys on 2-outs reaching. That’s getting it done.

  29. RedAlert

    Jay Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce grand salami !!!!!

    • Steve Mancuso

      Yep, upper deck in right center, really closer to center than right. Crushed it.

    • jdx19

      Left the bat at 106mph on a 30 degree trajectory. Traveled 415ft, Statcast seems to hvae a problem with distance. That had to have been longer than 415ft.

  30. Steve Mancuso

    You could hear BRUUUUUUUUUUCE in Miller Park over the radio broadcast.

  31. Ohioindiaspora

    that´s Jay Bruce we all know and love!

    • RedAlert

      Couldn’t hit it in the ocean if it was right in front on him – Walt’s left field resolution

  32. Jeremy Forbes


    Walks and errors will haunt. Four outs will hurt you more often than not.

  33. Steve Mancuso

    You can buy a “We’ve got Jay for that” shirt right now.

  34. mtkal

    Why on earth is Byrd batting before Pena and Cozart? Or at all?


    Roenicke should have issued a free pass to get to Byrd. why in the holy hell is cozart hitting behing byrd????????????

  36. Ellis Henry

    I saw better fastballs than that in high school. Yuck.

  37. RedAlert

    Gonna need 10 runs to win this one – can’t stand prosperity – really Marquis !!????

  38. preacherj

    First time through the order: Faced 9 men, struck out 6, gave up two runs.


    byrd is a lineup impingement

  40. RedAlert

    Get the freaking pen up Price –

    • RedAlert

      Marquis relying on a bevy of trash pitches – bout to give up a 4 run lead – pathetic

      • Ohioindiaspora

        I´m not superstitious, but I sure hope I didn´t jinx us there…

    • jdx19

      VEGAS. You won the shirt. Well, Charlotte did, and gifted it to you. Let me know style, size, and color and I’ll order it up and then you can send your address to Steve at [email protected]

      • charlottencredsfan

        I think he is watching from prison and doesn’t want anyone to know.

      • jdx19

        LOL. If I can watch the Reds in prison, maybe it ain’t so bad!

  41. jdx19

    Marquis giving up some rockets:

    Scheffer: 105mph single
    Maldonado: 105mph HR
    Segura: 99mph double
    Herrera: 99mph double

  42. charlottencredsfan

    Quit trying to get ahead of these guys Jason. Jeez.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Braun hit a good pitch.


    marquis is the byrd of the rotation

  44. Ellis Henry

    “$#%%^#$%^#$#$%#$%#$%@#$%@#$%@$%@$#%” – Bryan Price

  45. mtkal

    I can actually understand why Walt may have thought Byrd could provide a bit of offense and play left for a year holding Winker’s spot. He did hit OK in Philly last season. He may yet do alright if not great.
    But what ON GOD’S EARTH made him think Marquis could get major league hitters out on a consistent basis?????!!!

  46. RedAlert

    Well sure enjoyed that 4 run lead for a half inning.

    • RedAlert

      While Iglesias and Lorenzen rot away in AAA

  47. preacherj

    We may no longer have big pasta, be we sure have meatballs.


    lorenzen or isgleisas NOW!

  49. FLA Red

    This is the game in the series we should lose, but c’mon. I don’t see the broadcast, but was anyone up in the bullpen?

  50. RedAlert

    This is why the Reds are so freaking hard to stomach sometimes – never easy , never

  51. mtkal

    Marquis is trying to pay the Reds’ batters back for the game Leak pitched without getting any run support.

  52. charlottencredsfan

    Cozart needs to hit somewhere other than eighth.

  53. preacherj

    This bunt needs to be very good to advance Pena.

  54. jdx19


    • davisremy10

      I understand not bunting 1-8, but not bunting a pitcher?

      • jdx19

        Marquis can handle the bat a bit. But yeah, you’re right. Just a bit frustrated.

  55. redsfan06

    Earlier today, the Brewers manager said the team was going to go without batting practice before the game in an attempt to end their terrible offensive slump. Fortunately Marquis is able to make sure they didn’t miss it after all.

    • preacherj

      They are taking batting practice after all

  56. RedAlert

    Billy contributing JACK from the lead off spot

  57. RedsFanEd (@RedsFanEd)

    If there’s anything Marquis, Gregg, and Schumaker have in common, it’s that I’d rather have Lorenzen than any of them at their position.

  58. charlottencredsfan

    Love that Billy but it’s like having a pitcher in the lead-off spot. Come on MVP!

  59. Ellis Henry

    To quote Lou from Major League: “HIT THE BALL ON THE GROUND!”

  60. jdx19

    No surprise there. Gave him 1 pitch to hit out of 5.

  61. jdx19


  62. charlottencredsfan

    Yes!! Todddddddddddd!!!

  63. jdx19

    This is why Votto not swinging at junk out of the zone is good. Other guys on the team can hit, too!!!


  64. preacherj

    How many runs will Marquis give up in the bottom of the inning?

  65. mtkal

    Gonna take more than a couple of grand slams to win this one I’m afraid.

  66. charlottencredsfan

    JDX, if Vegas doesn’t want the shirt, give it to CP. I owe him.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Now you turn up. What do I look like a surf shop?☺

      • vegastypo

        there’s so many shirts flying around this blog i can’t keep ’em all straight.

    • jdx19

      You got it!

      CP, if you reply before VEGAS you get the shirt! Let me know size, color, style and I’ll order it. Then you can sent your address to Steve at [email protected]

      Boo yeah!

    • jdx19

      Votto now with a cool .500 OBP. That’s gettin’ it done. Has reached base 31 times in 62 PAs.

  67. charlottencredsfan

    Come on Marquis work these guys.

    • RedAlert

      If dude gives up ANYTHING this inning – potty mouth needs to yank him !

      • charlottencredsfan

        Hilarious. I like Potty Mouth. Has a ring to it, kind of catchy too.

  68. RedAlert

    I’ve freaking seen enough of this act – GET HIM OUT NOW !!!!!!

    • RedAlert

      Probably exchanging pleasantries with CTrent

  69. mtkal

    I only have Gameday tonight. Is anyone up in the bullpen?

  70. True Creature

    Forget about Barnhart, somebody put Marquis on a plane and get him far away from this team.

  71. preacherj

    That selection to Maldonado was wicked. Unhittable. And then he throws like I do.

  72. jdx19

    Looks like Statcast still needs some calibration. No velocity/angle information for Frazier’s blast.

  73. RedAlert

    i don’t care if he got out of it –GET HOM OUT OF THE GAME !!!!

  74. mtkal

    Nice job getting out of that and not giving up runs after we scored. Shaky though. Whew!

  75. Redsman

    Potty Mouth probably thinking he has to get Marquis through 5 in order to get him a win, even if we end up losing.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Potty is just trying to build JM’s confidence. If it cost a game, it’s worth it.


    good news, reds chances to win tonight look good…bad news marquis will probably get another start…….

  77. Redsman

    Dang Charlotte! Your comment is scaring me, sounds like Dusty reasoning. Maybe that was ‘tongue in cheek’.

  78. mtkal

    Why have Bruce steal there and give them the chance to take the bat out of Byrd’s hands by intentionally walking him? 😉

  79. RedAlert

    Byrd needs to find a seat on that bench next to Marquis – he is brutal !!!


    why is byrd on a MLB roster…..he must now be the worst player (WAR/OPS-wise) in the league by far….

    • jdx19

      Before this game Chris Carter of Houston had a wRC+ of -31, which is quite bad. Byrd was at -29. So, I think after this 3ABs tonight he’s the worst.

  81. charlottencredsfan

    5 more runs and we are very,very close to bullpen-proof.

    • jdx19

      WHAT has got into Zack Cozart! Meeeercy!

      • charlottencredsfan

        They have to move him up, don’t they?

      • jdx19

        Likely, Price will say “he’s comfy at 8. I don’t want to mess with that mojo.”

        But yeah, I say you gotta bat Byrd 8th until he proves he can still hit a major league fastball.

        Against RHP:


        Maybe even Cozart above Phillps until he cools off.

  82. Jeremy Forbes

    11 run game.. dare I say Marquis/Gregg-proof?


      please don’t. say that…..

    • jdx19

      You jsut did! Tshirts for everyone on you if they blow it! 😉

    • George Mirones

      It is only a 7 run lead, not enough Marq 2 more Gregg 3 more, Hoover 2 more and the game is tied. Maybe and 11 run lead I would agree.

  83. preacherj

    “We’ve got Marquis for that”

  84. jdx19

    Zack’s shot left the bat at 99mph at an angle of 24 degrees. Traveled 393 feet!

  85. charlottencredsfan

    Billy is a m-e-s-s. For those of you that can rewind, watch how quickly he opens up his front shoulder.

  86. RedAlert

    Man Billy has got to go from that leadoff slot – terrible job of getting on – ain’t gonna cut it in the long run

    • charlottencredsfan

      If Potty Mouth had the nads, he’d send him to Louisville to get straightened out.

      • George Mirones

        you know better, that’s a Walt call and you know he doesn’t like roster moves like the DL, AAA, or promoting from the minors.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Point well made, as always George.

  87. redeyenation

    cozart’s offense will predict the Reds success


    Maybe C Trent can ask Price if Cozart should hit before hamilton or byrd?

    • Vicferrari

      The opposing managers will be dropping F bombs at C trent for trying give Price an advantage

  89. Redsman

    What happened to Price promise near end of spring to put Billy in the 8 hole?

  90. mtkal

    Votto is basically batting lead off with the pitcher’s spot batting eighth.

    • jdx19

      Interesting. Very true, but also in this scenario your 9th place hitter gets the most ABs.

      • mtkal

        Yeah, that’s why it sucks. Why they seem to think speed is the only requirement for batting lead off, I have no idea.

  91. jdx19

    Geez. Braun’s hit left the bat at 115mph. Before that, the hardest hit ball in the game was Votto’s single at 109mph.

  92. charlottencredsfan

    Will 11 runs win this game?

  93. tgarretson82

    Braun may break the baseball next time Marquis pitches to him.

  94. Redsman

    Sure hope so! If we don’t get Gregg!

  95. RedAlert

    Charlotte , nice to have a fellow North Carolinian Reds fan on the Nation – been a Reds an all my life – I’ve stuck with em thru good and bad

    • RedAlert

      I’m appreciative of this site and chance to conversate with all the members of the Nation – meanwhile VOTTOMATIC STRIKES AGAIN !!!

    • charlottencredsfan

      Me too. Where you hail from?

  96. jdx19

    THOM!! We have the data! Home run was 107mph. His single was 109mph.

    Gosh, I love data.

  97. jdx19

    Votto’s Big Fly:

    107mph at 24 degrees. Traveled 421 feet.

  98. charlottencredsfan

    We’re almost to the point here you want to save some hits for tomorrow. Almost.

  99. redeyenation

    Votto has a MVP season brewing

  100. seat101

    Of course, all this offense is a coincidence following the Manager’s “tirade”.

    “Potty Mouth”? Pretty cute.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Perfectly descriptive but not mean, kind of endearing actually.

      • seat101

        ‘Endearing’ is a possibility, I grant you. But only if Reds continue hot streak.

        My father once told me what the difference was between ‘potty mouth’ and ‘foul mouthed’

        The difference was ‘[email protected]@@@’ was potty and ‘[email protected]@@@’ was foul mouthed.

        The latter was always to be preferred.

  101. Jeremy Forbes

    They still need a three run homer to complete the cycle.

  102. jdx19

    Well, better than a K, Byrd!

    I just thought of something,. You’ve heard of a “Jay Bird,’ yeah? Marlon is the “K Byrd.” Yeah, you’re right,. That sucks.


    BYRD!!!!! oh, no, he probably just earned some more starts…

    • charlottencredsfan

      Not even a possibility he will sit. One thing Dusty and Bryan have in common: you’re a starter for the season.


        Dusty would say he’s just waiting for warmer weather for the bat to warm up (Edgar Renteria!), plus there was always the back of the baseball card to assess ability/future success, too.

  104. George Mirones

    The scary part is 90% of the posters tonight are still worried about a win.

  105. jdx19

    8-run lead and Hoover isn’t just cranking it down the middle…

  106. Steve Mancuso

    How can Price not give Brennan Boesch a few starts in LF?

    • jdx19

      Something has to give. Either drop Byrd to 8th until he sorts it out or get Boesch and Negron out there in a platoon or something.

    • Vicferrari

      I say strict platoon, although Boesch surprising has better stats against lefties. Also noticed he is a strong 1st half starter and horrid in teh 2nd half. I say use him while he is rested and hopefully Byrd can figure it out against lefties

  107. RedAlert

    Well looks like JJ has turned into a pumpkin – the clock has struck midnight

  108. charlottencredsfan

    The pen is fresh right?

  109. jdx19

    Kris Bryant 2-4 with a double, BB, and 2 RBI tonight. Dude can rake. Against Liriano, no less. His double was off the wall in right-center, after hitting one off the wall in center last night.

    Addison Russell looks be be -0-5 with 3Ks in his MLB debut.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Good question for the next free shirt contest. Name the last player to win an MVP and ROY in the same season? Still active.

  110. RedInInd

    Wow. 27 pitches and still only 1 out.

  111. charlottencredsfan

    JJ has good stuff but it is rare to see hitters tee off on a guy as much as the do. No fear at all.

  112. preacherj

    Walks the bases loaded. Wow. Next contestant…….

  113. jdx19

    If the Brew Crew score 4 more we may see Chapman! Lock down the 13-10 win? Eh?

    • RedInInd

      I was about to say I’m glad there’s still some humor here. But now . . .???

      • jdx19

        Yeah, this bullpen is so laughable that’s all you can do… laugh.

  114. RedAlert

    Hey Bryan – WAKE UP MAN !!!! Get HOOVER OUT – the ineptitude in this pen is unreal

  115. preacherj

    This game is going to bring the average time for games back up. Just blew the curve.

  116. jdx19

    If we can juuuust make it to the 9th with this 3-run lead… CHAPMAN!

  117. Jeremy Forbes

    In my defense, I claimed Marquis/Gregg-proof, not Hoover/Badenhop-proof.

    • jdx19

      LOL. You, sir, are a master of loopholes!

      • Jeremy Forbes

        What can I say, I am out of ketchup and I heard crow isn’t very tasty.

      • George Mirones

        Spicy mustard is good!! 🙂

  118. charlottencredsfan

    Remind me why was Marquis taken out?


    I just said 78 F bombs in 5 seconds!

  120. George Mirones

    As I said before only now it is 100% of the posters aren’t sure about a win.

  121. charlottencredsfan

    Marty is hilarious. The tone of his voice alone will make you smile.

    • jdx19

      Actually, wouldn’t mind listening to him in a game like this.

      • charlottencredsfan

        At his very best. He talks about what we’re thinking.

  122. preacherj

    Braun should have planted that one downtown.

  123. jdx19

    Definitely something wrong with Statcast in that stadium. Says the home run was 379ft. It was a wall-scraper down the line. Maybe 340ft. Max.

  124. vared

    I just can’t get over how bad Walt’s new additions are. You can’t make it up.

    • Jeremy Forbes

      Meanwhile Sam LeCure has allowed 1 run in 6 innings (2 BB/5 K) down in Louisville.

    • mtkal

      I can’t understand what made him think they would be good. I don’t think ANYONE else did. It’s almost as if the plan was to sell sell sell at the deadline so it didn’t matter who he added as long as they were cheap.

  125. Tom Reed

    The bullpen comes through again. This could be a save opportunity for Chappie.

  126. preacherj

    Hoovers line: 1/3 inning pitched, 4 ER, 3BB, 1 hit.

  127. preacherj

    I’m sorry, 3 ER. Badenhop got in on that one as well.

    • mbauer8286

      3 BB plus the hit and they all scored right? So 4

  128. doublenohitter

    3 grand slams in 6 innings. Mercy. Walt needs to be on the phone right now and telling Lorenzen and iglacias to get on a plane. Just make sure you tell the 2 leaving first. We wouldn’t want to hurt someone’s feelings.

  129. RedAlert

    they need to evacuate the stadium cause the reds bullpen is gonna burn that place to the ground with all those gascans they run out there – what in the freaking world are they waiting on to bring up Iglesias or Lorenzen -???

  130. ProspectCincy

    Bryan Price – “0 Runs have crossed the plate with Cingrani or Chapman on the mound … better save them for next week”

  131. charlottencredsfan

    Your new clean-up hitter…..Zack Cozart.

  132. Steelerfan

    I just got home, heard the score when I got in the car and thought, great, a chance to celebrate a comfortable win and get to bed early.

    Now I have an hour (at the rate this is going) of staring at the monitor with white knuckles. Fun…..

    • jdx19

      Interesting question! I would actually love to know the answer to that. I’m thinking it’s the official scorer’s decision?

      • ProspectCincy

        Hold rules are the same as save rules in terms of score, batters on deck etc … so because both pitched with sizable leads (not save situations in the 6th – 9th), they do not get “holds”.

  133. charlottencredsfan

    Nothing wrong with Devin’s swing.

  134. Silence Dogood

    So I guess Mes is good to go? With this pack, I wouldn’t be surprised if he went on the DL by the end of the week.

  135. Jeremy Forbes

    Zack Cozart: 4 HR
    Giancarlo Stanton: 3 HR

    Aren’t stats at the beginning of the season so great sometimes?

  136. jdx19

    After feasting on some easy righties we’ll see how Joey does in his first AB against a lefty tonight!

  137. mtkal

    Did anyone notice how Mes looked running to 2nd on BH’s single?

    • RedAlert

      Looked good going to 3rd for sure

    • jdx19

      Looked pretty good. They showed a closeup of him tagging on Votto’s fly out, too. No cringe, no limp or anyuthing I could tell.

    • preacherj

      He’s looking good on the base paths. No limping and with good speed. He didn’t come up from that slide like he was in pain.

    • Steelerfan

      On computer, assuming the answer is good?

      Triumph of hope over experience….

      • Steelerfan

        Never mind, I will happily take those answers!

      • mtkal

        Yeah, sounds pretty good. Thanks guys.

  138. RedsFanEd (@RedsFanEd)

    It’s 14-10 here in 7th. #Reds had scored 13 runs in last 6 games, #Brewers had 10 in their last 6. Which means tonight pitchers SUCK.


    this might be the game to use Chappy for two innings to clean up the vomit

  140. RedAlert

    Need some more runs – Milwaukee fire department on standby

  141. jdx19

    DATDUDE. Time for some damage here. Good time for your first XBH.

  142. jdx19

    On-Demand Trivia:

    Last night, SD posted the most runs in the NL so far in the season (14). The Reds have just passed that on the next day.


    bruce on to kick the xtra point for the Bengals

  144. magi210

    Who gave the managers xbox controllers tonight?

  145. Redsman

    Hey! Don’t worry about this pen…Marshall returning in uhhhhh, Aug, Sept? Ha ha haaaaaa! He following in the mold of Masett, Bray etc. ha ha ha haaaaaaaa!

  146. preacherj

    At least two of those pitches were balls.

    • mad at walt

      very sad ESPN Steve Brynes gone at only 56 he was great for NASCAR have missed him not commentating.
      prayers to his family

  147. preacherj

    Why throw Byrd anything offspeed?

  148. preacherj

    Did you see where Byrd was hit at 96?

  149. Redsman

    As far as Mes, they say he good to run, hit, just can’t catch. Hmmmm, getting tha LF feeling again!

  150. jdx19

    I want an RBI walk right here. Do it.

  151. Pooter

    I just tuned in. What is going on? Holy cow! 3 salamies! Votto and Cozy too. Wow! Where is the pitching?

    • jdx19

      Welcome! The pitching is down at the local bar. It’s Fans Pitch night at Miller Park.

      Yeah, Cozart has bee unbelievable. Frazier and Bruce his absolute bombs. As did Votto on a bendy curveball in the zone.

    • jdx19

      Oh, and Mesoraco had a pinch-hit base-on-balls. He looked good on the bases running, as well.

      • Pooter

        Thanks for the update. The Mez and news comforts me as does Cozy’s bat.

  152. RedAlert

    Pulling for Jumbo to have a clean inning – better stuff than most of the others in this pen

    • RedAlert

      Dude throws cheese – not always good movement

  153. Steelerfan

    ESPN numbers on pitchers tonight:

    . Marquis 5.0 9 5 5 0 8 7.20
    – J. Hoover 0.1 1 4 4 3 0 7.94
    – B. Badenhop 0.2 1 1 1 0 0 6.35
    – J. Diaz 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 6.75

    Realize early, small sample size, relievers highly variable but ugh…

  154. charlottencredsfan

    Jumbo has lost something off his fastball since last year.

    • George Mirones

      Fudge, yep fudge is awesome.

  155. Vicferrari

    Too lazy to count, but how many shutouts innings thrown by the Reds bullpen not from Cuba when they had the lead?

    • jdx19

      I think once he starts getting semi-regular work (if that ever happens) his velocity will come back a bit.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Agree. Only one I trust outside of Chapman. I want to trust Cingrani but don’t know if he is still on the club.

  156. RedInInd

    Boy, that sure sounded funny when Thom said, “The Reds lead 16 to 10.”

  157. RedAlert

    Man, Cubs bring their prospects on up – why can’t the Reds shore up their bullpen with some of their own !!!??? Frustrating and aggravating watching Walt sitting on his hands again

    • Vicferrari

      Cubs have prospects ML ready, Reds have raw talent at SPing that need developing and that is about it unless you count Winkler who is probably 2 full seasons away

      • RedAlert

        Got at least 2 in AAA that this pen could use right now though

      • RedAlert

        And one probably needs to actually be IN the rotation

    • George Mirones

      Look at the 40 man roster if you really want to see some strange names. Any body they bring up not on the 40 man would mean somebody on the 40 man would be exposed to other teams. Other than Iggy who is the insurance for Marquis I don’t see any other pitchers who could help the bullpen. Most fans look at bench issue of the Reds but when you look at the 40 man you can really see the weakness. Just my opinion.

  158. mtkal

    Gameday sucks big time. What is with the whole thing of hiding the results of the most recent at bat?

  159. RedAlert

    And here it comes … Tick, tick, tick … Bottom of the 8th – hoping for a clean one !

  160. Steelerfan

    I hope I am wrong, but I am afraid Cingrani is being groomed for a loogy role. Would be a real misuse talent.

      • Jeremy Forbes

        LOOGY… Lefty One Out GuY. A lefty pitcher who comes in just for one out. It’s what Parra was before they tried to make him a normal relief pitcher in 2014.

  161. ncboiler

    I swear I saw Byrd’s OPP less than his batting average in the ESPN box score. I was thinking WTF but it seemed about right.

  162. Old Gregg

    There’s never a big enough lead for Old Gregg.

  163. preacherj

    Look, everybody: It’s Kevin Gregg in the 8th.

    • Old Gregg

      Might result in a save opportunity so Chappy is allowed to pitch.

    • Vicferrari

      I am sadistically rooting for a 3 run 8th even though I rationally know it would not be a good thing

    • mad at walt

      Votto great play and gregg can’t even catch the ball

  164. jdx19

    Oh, Gregg. Ruining Votto’s web gem!

    • mad at walt

      is talent for baseball players getting so bad that players like Gregg can be a MLB player and draw a big paycheck cuz I can do what he does for a quarter of the money

  165. charlottencredsfan

    Votto looking a lot better in the field as well as the plate.

    • jdx19

      I didn’t watch a lot in 2009-2012, but he looks completely different to me than I’ve ever seen on a day-to-day basis. I guess that is what healthy gets ya?

      I think he’s probably due for a day off sometime soon.

    • RedAlert

      Sure does – dude moving around well

  166. rmhowell

    A couple things, where are all the Cozart haters now. Early candidate for most improved player. Also I’m not sure there is anyone outside of Chapman they can trust to shut a team down. Hoover gets jumped on tonight and Diaz pitches great. I don’t understand, so inconsistent.

    • charlottencredsfan

      If you stink up, you’re going to catch grief. The way it works.

    • mtkal

      I think it was more a matter of hating Cozart’s .200 batting average last season, than hating Cozart himself.

    • jdx19

      We all love how he’s doing, but slow your role. He has an insane BABIP and HR/FB%. Things that are completely unsustainable.

      With that said, as good as a start as he’s gotten, he doesn’t have to hit very well the rest of the year to have a “career year” in stats.

      People can be “haters” as you say and still love when a guy does well.

      BP is probably the best example of that. Not a ton of fans around here, but everyone loves when he performs. We love the Reds!

  167. charlottencredsfan

    If you’re counting, that is two scoreless outings back-to-back for Kevin Gregg. Not going to throw a party but it’s something.

    • jdx19

      True. As bad as he’s been, I think his true talent at this point in his career lies around a 4.50-4.80 ERA.

    • Jeremy Forbes

      ERA creeping back closer to only having one digit on the left side of the decimal point. Down to 11.12 now.

  168. charlottencredsfan

    Let’s see if we can get a well deserved win for my man Jason Marquis.

    • Vicferrari

      Hopefully Brewers got all their hits out of their system tonight and Cueto can thanks Marquis and Hoover for the shutout he will throw tomorrow

      • charlottencredsfan

        That’s exactly Jason’s job, wear them out for Johnny. Nice thought.

      • docmike

        They’ll probably score 1 run tomorrow for Cueto, which is standard operating procedure this season whenever he pitches.

    • docmike

      Agree with all except the well-deserved part. Giving up 5 runs in 5 innings should get you a big fat “L”.

      Marquis should be thankful he wasn’t pitching this past weekend, where every Reds starter got 1 run to work with.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Well Doc, being that I’m the Jason Marquis Fan Club President and founder, I’ll ignore that tasteless comment.☺

      • docmike

        That comment made me think of those Hair Club for Men commercials. You know,
        ‘I’m not only the president, I’m also a client.” 🙂

  169. Vicferrari

    Velocity is down barely hitting 100 MPH, c’mon shake off the rust

  170. docmike

    Aroldis! He’s alive!

    Now, where’s that Cingrani fellow? He’s got to be hiding out somewhere…

    • Vicferrari

      He was dressed up as Mes tonight, Trent kept his mouth shut that Devin is still at home and Price was able to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes

  171. Vicferrari

    What is the Reds records for K’s in a 9 inning game, I remember Soto had 15 in ’82

    • misconcepcion

      Ah,Mario… I lived in Chicago in the early 80s before Wrigley had lights and worked/lived several blocks south on 3344 Clark St. at Swingville Jazz record store. Even then, already 16-year Reds fan, I was crazy about The Most Magnificent Mario Soto. Attended almost 90 games at Wrigley over two seasons–most before the prices leaped. Anyway–and I know memory can be tricky–I went to Wrigley on a Sunday following a suspended game (went too late w/no lights) and Mario “started” the completion of the suspended game (an inning or two?), then went about 7 or 8 strong innings to wrap up his second win on the day. Could be wrong, but it was something like that.

      As for Ks per a game, I know Mario hit 15 at least once, but I’m thinking that hard-chucking Irishman Jim Maloney hit as many as 18–and maybe twice…

  172. RedAlert

    Have a good one Nation !!!! – enjoyed it – nice win tonight – we’ll take it !

  173. charlottencredsfan

    Fun, fun game. Adios amigos and amigas!

  174. Vicferrari

    Its the Marquee Disco show who had the Reds at 5-1 when they start and 0-6 with everybody else after the 1st games?

    • docmike

      Imagine if Cueto had gotten some of Marquis’ run support, well, ANY time he pitched?

      • Vicferrari

        I got a feeling ole Marquis will find out, there are plenty of Travis woods out there for him to lose against

    • docmike

      Disco, yes. He has pitched 3 outstanding games, all Reds wins.

      Marquis, no. We may be 2-1 in his starts. but that’s not really a reflection on him. He has had one decent start, and two terrible ones.

      • Vicferrari

        I am in no way implying Maruis is even comparable to a legit starter, just early season stats can be funny… Reds lost Cueto’s first 3 starts last season and he still won 20

  175. RedInInd

    A win with 16 runs is great. But it feels kinda ugly letting the other guys get 10.

    • Vicferrari

      I’d rather have it turn out this way the swap scores from last night

  176. docmike

    Back to .500!

    Now, let’s sweep these Brewers and head home!