Assuming the weather permits it, tonight the Reds look to end their three game skid and to not be swept out of St. Louis. The Reds are exactly halfway through their 22-game gauntlet of NL Central games to start the season, and while 5-6 is not terrible, the record should certainly be one or two wins higher.


PITCHER 2015 FIP 2014 FIP HR/9 BB% K%
Adam Wainwright 2.90 2.88 0.4 5.6% 19.9%
Mike Leake 4.15 3.88 0.97 5.5% 18.2%

The hope that the Reds won’t be swept out of St. Louis has already hit its first major obstacle as Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright takes the mound. For his career, Wainwright hasn’t been his most dominant against the Reds, posting a 4.40 ERA in 108.1 innings. However, last year, Wainwright absolutely dominated the Redlegs, shutting them out over 15 innings in two starts and striking out 21.

Mike Leake counters the Cardinals ace, hoping to bounce back from two lackluster starts to begin the season. In five starts against the Cardinals last season, Leake posted a 3.66 ERA, striking out 26 of 130 batters faced (20%).


Kolten Wong returns to Mike Matheny’s lineup but little else has changed over the course of this series. The Cardinals’ lineup:

1. Matt Carpenter (L) 3B
2. Jason Heyward (L) RF
3. Matt Holliday (R) LF
4. Matt Adams (L) 1B
5. Jhonny Peralta (R) SS
6. Yadier Molina (R) C
7. Jon Jay (L) CF
8. Kolten Wong (L) 2B
9. Adam Wainwright (R) P

The Dusty Baker Sunday special makes a reappearance today as Skip Schumaker, Brennan Boesch, and Tucker Barnhart are all starting: The Reds‘ lineup:

1. Skip Schumaker (L) LF
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Zack Cozart (R) SS
7. Brennan Boesch (L) CF
8. Tucker Barnhart (S) C
9. Mike Leake (R) P

According to beat reporter Mark Sheldon, Billy will be day-to-day with a sore right groin. Hopefully, this is an accurate description of Billy’s injury and not like Devon Mesoraco’s hip injury, which has been day-to-day for over a week now.


The Reds struggles in St. Louis are well-documented but for your own manager to vocalize that fact is never a good sign. I still feel that Price is a better manager than Dusty Baker was, but his in-game decisions and off-field comments of late have left me questioning how strong of leader he really is. The news out of camp that Mes and Joey were stepping up into leadership roles gave me hope for a new dynamic, but the results of that have yet to materialize.

It’s a dreary  day in St. Louis, rain has been falling sporadically, and overall, the weather is accurately summing up my feelings towards the Reds right now. Every time I look out the window (or at the team), I have unfounded feelings of hope that the rain will have stopped (and the bullpen and offense will be better). Hopefully, the game will go on, and I will be in the left field bleachers, cheering the Reds to a face-saving win in Busch.


362 Responses

  1. Silence Dogood

    Price should have one-upped the brilliant St. Louis manager for this nationally televised game and batted Leake in the 6th hole.

  2. Jeremy Forbes

    Logic tells me that the Reds’ lineup today should score maybe 1 run. (Likely off a solo homer.) So that means they’ll probably score 8 somehow. Get a win, break the streak.

  3. charlottencredsfan

    When I hear the words, groin and sore, I’m not thinking day-to-day especially with a guy that earns his living with his legs. How many bodies do we have on the 25-man that can actually play???

  4. Steve Mancuso

    Cardinals playing all eight regulars plus Wainwright. Reds emptying the bench. Has to happen sometime, but wish it wasn’t on national TV with the threat of a series sweep. On the other hand, the Reds offense outside of Votto and Cozart has been terrible. Skip Schumaker can’t hit worse than Marlon Byrd. Brennan Boesch only has to get on base one time to be Billy Hamilton’s equal. But there will be a huge drop off in CF defense and maybe in LF as well. Nonetheless, Go Reds!

    • Eric the Red

      Yeah, I would think you’d want Negron in CF with either Schu or Boesch in LF. But since we have an overpowering strikeout pitcher on the mound I guess outfield defense won’t be that important. /s/

      • Ryan Lykins (@ryan_lykins)

        Skip probably isn’t terrible in left and that’s really the only OF spot I’d play him but Boesch is not a CF whatsoever. I don’t understand the logic especially, as you point out, the OF defense is kind of important with Leake on the mound.

      • Gaffer

        Actually he is horrible. Why is skip a leader guy. Why not Cozart or heck Leake!

  5. Jake

    Schumaker leading off? Guess we don’t have much options

    • Gaffer

      See line above. There are 8 other choices in the lineup.

  6. Ryan Lykins (@ryan_lykins)

    Not that they’re leadoff hitters whatsoever but I’d much rather see Cozart or even Brandon Phillips hit in that spot with Hamilton out. Cozart has especially had a nice start to the season and is a much better option than Skip although really Negron is a better option than all of them and he’s regulated to the bench so I guess it doesn’t matter.
    I really hope Bosch can do something but I’m really not sure that he’s a major league player. Hoping I’m proven wrong but not optimistic.

  7. aktrainer

    Headed to Busch stadium for my first Cards/Reds game in St. Louis. Wish I could have gone to last night’s game to avoid the Dusty Special (and the rain)! But I just couldn’t bring myself to pay a minimum of $50 for Yadier Molina bobblehead night…

  8. vegastypo

    Rain, rain come today/go away another day

    Hamilton and Mes likely can’t play, and Price won’t be in any hurry to use Pena, since he’s the only other guy who could catch. So Negron and Byrd are pretty much the whole bench tonight?

  9. Ryan Lykins (@ryan_lykins)

    I don’t understand why Mesoraco hasn’t been placed on the DL. From everything I’ve read he still isn’t able to squat which you know is his primary job. Now I’ve seen that he’s able to hit but I highly doubt Price is going to use him unless the game goes into extras and he has no other options. Even if he is cleared to catch in a couple of days he will have missed quite a bit of time. Wouldn’t it have been smarter to DL him and let him fully heal rather than to have a short bench every night? I know the Reds have done this a lot with guys but it makes no sense at all to me.

  10. I-71_Exile

    I don’t hold Brian Price’s statement about the team “not anticipating success” at Busch against him—I read it as a statement of fact and an attempt to light a little fire under the team. Maybe the Dusty special line-up is there to reinforce that? On the other hand, Schumacher and Bosch might have family in town so it’s time to give them a little field time. Only Brian Price knows.

  11. Gaffer

    Billy injury looked bad, immediately grabbed. Those groin (abductor muscles) heal very slowly.

  12. vegastypo

    Incidentally, another quote from Price in that “not anticipating success” article:

    “We need to have one of those series where we steamroll (the Cardinals), where we turn the tables on them and start to feel really good about coming in here and anticipating victory.”

    He says that, and then presents this lineup?

    • Doctor K

      He said “series” not “game”. Guys have to play occasionally, and while this lineup is ugly, it’s not as though he’s run it out there on every get-away day like Baker used to do.

      • Doctor K

        Yes it would. And it would be great not to be humiliated on national TV. The Reds have not done well in recent years when showcased on ESPN or MLB TV. If there’s a bright side to the lineup it has lowered everyone’s expectations for tonight. Anything short of utter embarrassment can be viewed as a small victory.

  13. wkuchad

    “I still feel that Price is a better manager than Dusty Baker was.”

    Based on what? Dusty frustrated me (a lot at times), but I’ve been very disappointed in Price to date. And Dusty had success. It may have been in spite of him at times, but he had it. Price has shown me jack.

    • Mack Ashley Potter

      Price shouldn’t be allowed to carry Baker’s jock strap for him. Cincinnati messed up letting Dusty go. I’ve said it since the day he was fired.
      Think about it, Reds had been to the playoffs 1 time (1995) since winning the Fall Classic in 1990 and Dusty Baker walks in and wins 2 Division Titles and a Wild Card berth. And he’s LET GO? Not to mention Dusty has an outstanding winning track record. It would have been just a matter of time until he had the Reds in the World Series. Walt may have set us back 10 years with the hiring of Price.

      • Mutaman

        It was time for a change re Baker, but there is no evidence that “Price is a better manager than Dusty Baker was”.

      • jdx19

        This is probably the best I’ve heard it stated.

        Reds needed a change. Price may not be any better.

  14. Mack Ashley Potter

    Sunday Night Baseball…
    Leake vs Waino….
    In St Louis….
    Losers in 6 of last 7….

    Call me crazy, but I still have hope.

  15. Ellis Henry

    Sick of this “St. Louis baseball fans are the greatest” nonsense. Gag me.

  16. tracyjones29

    I’m curious…to those complaining about the lineup–what lineup do you want? Mes and Billy are hurt. Calling this a Dusty Baker Special is ignorant.

    • CBD

      While I agree there isn’t many choices left due to injuries and that isn’t Price’s fault, the fact the bench hasn’t been upgraded in years is my source of frustration.

  17. CBD

    I say bring back Pete and let Pete manage. And let him bet. We all could use a manager that has an incentive other than Walt/Bob (which clearly isn’t one)

  18. CBD

    Is it just my TV or are ESPN’s cameras stuck on zoom?

  19. BigRedMike

    Not a good AB by Frazier on 2-0

  20. ncboiler

    I don’t understand how someone is taking a swing like that, on a pitch like that, being ahead 0-2. Frazier’s AB

    • charlottencredsfan

      I’m convinced the other Reds hitters watch JV hit but they don’t see it. His analytical approach makes them look that much more undisciplined. Really kind of amazing.

  21. BigRedMike

    Pitchers are not afraid to pitch in the zone to the Reds cleanup hitter

  22. Chris

    It’s gotten to the point where I can pretty much predict the results of each game. Each inning. And, sadly, each at bat.

  23. Chris

    PS I knew the moment Kruk stated that Carpenter has yet to hit a HR, that he would, indeed, hit one in this AB.

  24. RedAlert

    Et the mike leave batting practice commence – freeze – never seen a dude that puts the Reds behind the right ball more than he does

  25. charlottencredsfan

    How scary would it be if Votto was a Cardinal?

  26. spro

    OK, time to go get some productive stuff tonight.

  27. Chris

    While I’m NO Price fan, as a manager, this entire lineup (depth) is on the shoulders of Uncle Walt. What a joke our GM is.

  28. Chris

    Leake is missing badly. Pena’s glove is in one spot and the pitch location is in another location. Far different location.

  29. Steve Mancuso

    Anyone who makes a donation to or buys merchandise from Redleg Nation during the game gets a shout out in the game thread.

    • RedAlert

      He won’t last 5 innings tonight – hitting rockets off him

  30. Kywhi

    It must be great being a Cardinals fan when you know your team is playing the Reds. Will the pain ever stop?

  31. liptonian

    Leake has struggled and has been hit hard every start. This does not bode well

  32. Mopup

    So it’s becoming very clear that the first 4 games were a statistical anomaly.

  33. BearcatNation

    I have such little confidence in this franchise right now. I know this is an exaggeration, but it feels like we are the Phillies except we never even got the championship ring to make us feel better.

  34. jdx19

    First Reds hit for Boesch! Alright! We’re cookin’ with gas now!

  35. charlottencredsfan

    Does Byrd have an extra-base hit?

  36. Eric the Red

    Adams is simply not as good defensively as he shows against the Reds. It may be the most frustrating thing of all–how he inexplicably turns into a defensive monster against us.

    • Chris

      Every opposing pitcher and player seems to turn into an MVP against us.

    • jdx19

      Yeah, no kidding. And last year he kept lacing singles to left against the shift. Like 5-6 hits in the first 2 series of the year, or something. And, of course, he wasn’t really all that good the rest of the year. I dislike Matt Adams.

  37. Steve Mancuso

    Paul Edwards bought a Redleg Nation Identity shirt! Thanks, Paul.

  38. Mopup

    Whatever Mod deleted the “fat boy” comment should know that Matt Adams nickname on the STL bench is “fat boy” and was meant as a compliment to his good play. Just saying.

  39. vegastypo

    The Dodgers DFA’s Dennick, and he cleared waivers. I guess the Reds didn’t want him back.

  40. Steve Mancuso

    jdx19 bought a shirt saying Joey is paid for that. And he made a donation. Thanks, Patrick!

  41. RedAlert

    I’d like to get some swings at the plate on Leake tonight- he ain’t foolin anybody

  42. seat101

    Sometimes it’s maddening you to miss reading this blog. I’ve learned a lot from many of the posters on all aspects of baseball.

    And then there’s a night like tonight, where so many try to be more bitterly negative and cynical than the other.

    • jdx19

      Buy a shirt! It will make you feel better! 😉

  43. Steve Mancuso

    Tyler Wiltshire made a donation to Redleg Nation. Thanks, Tyler!

  44. George Mirones

    maybe the Reds infielders should wear batting helmets the way Cards are hitting the ball. Safety first.:)

  45. charlottencredsfan

    First commenter that agrees with one of my insightful thoughts gets a t-shirt.

  46. Gaffer

    Just hearing about Mes hip. Impingement is bad. He has the same thing I have, it sucks and he will never be the same! He probably knew this when he signed his contract.

  47. Jeff Morris

    Not sure how long this will last…having Phillips as number 4 hitter? Seems Phillips (it started last year) has declined in his hitting. Phillips needs to be moved down in the order.

    • jdx19

      Started long before last year. But you are correct.

      If everyone was healthy, Phillips would be 7th. Need to get Mesoraco back and healthy.

  48. Steve Mancuso

    Anyone who makes a donation to Redleg Nation or buys merchandise during the game gets a shout out on the game thread. Tyler Wiltshire, Paul Edwards and JDX19 have already done so.

    It’s been suggested we offer a free t-shirt for anyone who can play left field …

  49. Chris

    The last 41 innings have seen the Reds score a total of 6 runs. Ugly.

    • jdx19

      And Reds leadoff hitters are 2-24 with 0 walks since the Negron start in Chicago.

  50. charlottencredsfan

    Who was the last MVP that played for a cellar dweller? First right answer, gets a shirt.

      • charlottencredsfan

        What size. You’re getting a Polo for that great answer.

        A winner.

        Steve, can you get VAs shipping info?

      • CP

        A-Rod did it in 2003 when he with the Rangers. Just sayin’

      • charlottencredsfan

        Really sorry CP. I missed it. If you are the first to agree with my next insightful comment you will get a t-shirt. Really sorry about that but I hate ARod.

      • jdx19

        Congrats, VA! Haha! 🙂 Charlotte is making lemonade!

      • Kywhi

        Did you get your t-shirt since you are correct? 🙂

      • charlottencredsfan

        VA – get me that size or you’re getting the pup tent.

      • Steve Mancuso

        And your shirt size. Do you want a black or red polo?

      • charlottencredsfan

        My pleasure. You earned it.

  51. jdx19

    FInally, we got out first ignorant/incorrect statement from the booth regarding Votto.

    “He’l take the walk with a man at third over the sac fly.”

    Completely false and out of context.

    • CP

      I like that it is either/or. Walk or sac fly. Swings/misses, weakly hit outs don’t exist.

  52. Chris

    How’s that for Cardinal confidence (and no confidence in our lineups ability to hit beyond Votto and Frazier)? That was an pitch-around to Frazier to get to BP.

  53. VaRedsFan

    Game of Thrones at 9:00. Decisions decisions.

    • VaRedsFan

      Our nightly quota reached! and it’s only the 3rd inning!

  54. Steve Mancuso

    John Hurskainen bought one of our new Redleg Nation polo shirts. Thanks, John!

  55. GeauxReds

    The permanent k zone on espn is annoying

    • jdx19

      Agreed. That little circle that appears after the pitch should be the only thing. Maybe have it filled in green/red to indicate strike/ball or something. The box is distracting.

    • George Mirones

      I don’t about you but I would want all games with that so I would create a montage for contract time. No body like watching themselves fail over 70% of the time.

  56. Steve Mancuso

    Our contributions and sales tonight so far have come from Arizona, Maryland, Colorado, Ohio and Illinois.

    • jdx19

      We should try and see how much of the country we have covered here at RLN! Is there an equivalent to a virtual map with virtual thumbtacks? 😉

      • Steve Mancuso

        I can tell you our past merchandise sales have been to dozens of states. And Taiwan.

  57. Steve Mancuso

    If Brennan Boesch could somehow return to being a decent hitter, it would be a huge help for the Reds. Of course, they’d have to play him ahead of Marlon Byrd and I’m not sure they’re willing to do that.

    • Silence Dogood

      Boesch is 30, I think. Probably not likely he will find it now. And you are right, Byrd will play come hell or high water.

    • spro

      whatever keeps Byrd from making 550 plate appearances

    • jdx19

      Even if he hits his 93 wRC+ career average, that would be an enormous help.

    • Ellis Henry

      One minuscule upside is that Byrd is a proven slow starter throughout his career with OPS increasing every month from 77 in March/April to 114 in July. I admit he has been atrocious but maybe this is just who he is.

      • vegastypo

        That could create an interesting choice for the Reds if he does pick up the pace: Let him keep getting plate appearances to see how much he can produce, or risk losing his production and benching him to keep him under that contract threshold.

  58. Steve Mancuso

    Charlotte – received info for VAREDSFAN. Order away, Pete. Don’t forget to get something for yourself.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Info sent to your email. Rather give. I have more shirts than I want. My wife keeps getting new ones for me but I like my old ones.

  59. VaRedsFan

    Thanks for the shirt CNC.
    I’ll pay it forward.

    Whoever predicts the next Reds player to get a hit gets a RLN hat.

  60. GeauxReds

    For once we are not burned by the defensive shift.

  61. jdx19

    Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez, and now Tim Tebow… I feel sorry for Eagles fans.

  62. jdx19

    It’s always so easy for Wainwright.

      • jdx19

        I’ll take it!! He even got the low-away strike call that Wainwright got against Schumaker for the K.

    • jdx19

      Just laughed derisively and said “That’s their fault…” when Homer’s contract was mentioned.

      Go take some more PEDs, Curt.

  63. Ellis Henry

    Did someone say Leake was a #5 starter earlier?

  64. Steve Mancuso

    Charlotte has ordered the polo shirt for VAREDSFAN. Thanks, Charlotte!

  65. jessecuster44

    BP is swinging at everything, as usual.

    • RedAlert

      Yep / and trying to hit everything 2 miles

  66. RedAlert

    Todd ain’t getting it done in the 3 hole

    • jdx19

      And he’s walking less so far this year than any other year. 4.2% BB rate before tonight, 7.8% for his career.

  67. jessecuster44

    Wainright just threw 2 innings with less than 20 pitches. That’s inexcusable, from the Reds approach.

    • jdx19

      Yeah, the few times that Votto puts the first pitch in play leads to things like this. When he isn’t seeing 7 pitches, everyone else just continues on as normal.

  68. Whoa Bundy!

    Get ahead in the count and swing at junk. Ugh.

  69. Steve Mancuso

    Wow! Nancy Kaminski just joined the Grand Slam Club ($100) and ordered three other shirts. Thanks, Nancy!

  70. vegastypo

    Is that correct? Leake at 66 pitches through six innings? … A part of the DH question: Would you pinch hit for a pitcher with a low pitch count to try to get some offense?

  71. charlottencredsfan

    Based on two AB’s, I’d start Boesch against LHP.

    • vegastypo

      I made a similar comment late in spring training. Not sure there is much to lose, the way Byrd is going.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Vegas, you got a t-shirt for that wise response. Go to the RLN store pick out the one you want and specify color & size. A great mind like yours is deserving.

    • jdx19

      Career wRC+ against lefties: 110
      Career wRC+ against righties: 88

      You were more right than you knew!

      • charlottencredsfan

        Heck, just give him the job.

  72. Chris

    If we could score we’d be a force in the NL Central. As it is now….yup.

  73. Steve Mancuso

    Allan Chandler just joined the Home Run Club ($50). Thanks, Allan!

    • jdx19

      Atta boy, Allan! I was gettin’ lonely!

  74. Ryan

    If John Kruk analyzes Votto’s leg kick one more time…

  75. vegastypo

    This was on Twitter from Buster Olney … Billy Hamilton is available in the late innings, for whatever CIN wants to use him for. He ran on the field before the game, says he’s fine.

  76. VaRedsFan

    Nobody had Tucker Barnhardt in the next hit pool. We’ll start over.
    Whoever predicts the next Reds hit gets a RLN hat.

  77. jessecuster44

    Disagree about putting Frank Robinson above Larkin in Franchise Four.

  78. Chris

    Gotta give credit…Whatever plagued Leake in the 1st has completely disappeared.

    • Steve Mancuso

      He’s staying out of the middle of the strike zone.

  79. RedAlert

    Nothing wrong with Todd’s glove though !

  80. charlottencredsfan

    Great to see Leake back in the saddle. Can we get at least one more run?

  81. jessecuster44

    Look at that Grit from Yadi. Walt probably trades for him next year.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Too young. In another 4 or 5 years.

  82. RedAlert

    Gotta feeling better score this inning

  83. jdx19

    BP still living right. All his weak contact keeps going for hits! I’ll take it!

  84. Steve Mancuso

    How about a three-run bomb from affable Jay right here?

    • RedAlert

      Yep – time for BRUUUUUUUUUUUUCE !

    • jessecuster44

      3 runs would guarantee that Chappy pitches the 9th.

    • charlottencredsfan

      I’ll take back everything you thought I said about him earlier today, if he does.

  85. RedAlert

    Don’t let this punk off the hook

  86. Doctor K

    Good job by Bruce there not getting himself out. He does that A LOT in those situations

  87. jessecuster44

    Now would be the time for the Reds’ leading hitter to do something…

  88. RedAlert

    Unbelievable – lined up the middle – stupid shift

    • jdx19

      Well, until major league hitters can prove they actually know how to hit a ball, they’ll keep getting shited, I suppose.

  89. jessecuster44

    And of course, he swings at the first pitch after Wainright began to lose some control. SMH.

  90. George Mirones

    Interesting facts.
    the Cards from 2006 through 2015 have a record of 78 wins and 75 losses versus the Cubs. Could be that an improved Cubs line up just may be what the Reds can use to offset the current spell the Cards have over the Reds.

  91. Chris

    The Reds should teach a master’s class on how to get runners in from scoring position. Oh, wait…the Reds should TAKE a master’s class on how to get runners in from scoring position. There. Better.

  92. charlottencredsfan

    Steve – Vegas has a t-shirt due.

  93. Steve Mancuso

    The next pitcher for the Reds tonight better be Aroldis Chapman and he has to pitch for two innings if necessary no matter what.

    • BearcatNation

      It’s just a game Steve, is it really worth changing closer rules for that?

      • Jake

        Yea what is he thinking? The game is close or something?

  94. Jeff Morris

    Cozart swinging early in the count, instead of making the pitcher work…..

  95. charlottencredsfan

    Boesch makes a nice play.

    • jessecuster44

      Disagree. Boesch went to his knees, thereby giving Jay 2B.

      • charlottencredsfan

        I was happy he prevented it from reaching the wall. Need to see it again.

  96. CBD

    Who didn’t see this coming? These games with the cards are so similar its uncanny

  97. jdx19

    Leadoff man on 2nd. What are the odds that this run doesn’t score? Is there a doubt in anyone’s mind?

    • Nate

      The cards are professional hitters unlike the Reds

  98. ProspectCincy

    If the Reds do get the runner on 3rd one out scenario … they need to go w/ Cingrani against Wong. He owns him.

  99. VaRedsFan

    JDX wins the hat….payment sent

  100. ProspectCincy

    Cingrani … GO WITH CINGRANI!

  101. CBD

    lol… its the same thing every single stinking time with this team.. the 8th inning after a giant miss in the 7th

  102. jessecuster44

    Bryan Price, asleep at the wheel there. Disappointing.

    • jdx19

      How exactly was he asleep? Leake has been cruising the entire game and gave up 1 hit.

      You can’t take the pitcher out every time he gives up a hit.

      • jessecuster44

        Yes you can, if it’s a double in the 8th inning, and your pitcher has a history of getting into trouble if he goes deep in close games.

  103. Chris

    I go back to my earlier posting…I kind of already know what will happen each Reds game and inning. Case and point.

  104. RedAlert

    And Price leaves him in against left handed hitter – chapman has not even pitched in series

  105. ProspectCincy

    Whatever. Bryan Price saving his bullpen. Kolten Wong .000 / .000 / .000 too good against Cingrani in 5AB to consider an AB.

    I’m sorry but Price needs to go. Leaving Leake in solely because his pitch count in that situation is criminal.

    • jessecuster44

      Leake historically has trouble deep in games, regardless of pitch count. If I know this, shouldn’t Price? Bah!

  106. charlottencredsfan

    I hate it but the Cardinals know how to play the game.

    • VaRedsFan

      efficiency at its best…they cash in most every time they need to.

  107. ProspectCincy

    12 games in … Cingrani 3 games. THREE.

  108. Nate

    Is it too early to stick a fork in the season?

  109. Steve Mancuso

    Three games against the St. Louis Cardinals and Aroldis Chapman didn’t participate. No save opportunity.

  110. GeauxReds

    If i am price Billy pinch runs in the 9th and Negron hits for leake.

  111. Steve Mancuso

    Last chance to make your donation to Redleg Nation or order merchandise and get a shout out in the game thread (until tomorrow night). Thanks for everyone who has supported the site tonight, with your comments and financially. We value both.

    • charlottencredsfan

      I owe Vegas a t-shirt.

      Boesch is a monster!

  112. jessecuster44

    These Reds are uncannily like their football neighbors. Neither players or managers can overcome themselves in big moments. It might be time to blow the whole thing up and start over, because it is freaking Groundhog Day out there tonight.

  113. jdx19

    Not sure why everyone seems so surprised.

  114. muttonlettucetomato

    That was so predictable… why not go with a pitcher that can actually get a strikeout there? Price has me baffled…

  115. Doctor K

    The difference between these two organizations is staggering. Go back to last Sunday and the Reds’ inability to make that late rally hold up in the 8th. No way the Cards don’t hold that lead. Friday night Hamilton made a reasonably good throw to Pena who dropped the ball on the tag, and then Byrd misplayed the ball in LF. Tonight in the 8th, bases loaded, can’t get one in. Cards immediately respond. It’s unbelievable, and it happens every year.

    • jessecuster44

      It’s a mindset. Price said it before the game.

  116. ProspectCincy

    No Hamilton. What the hell is Price doing saying he’s available …

  117. Nate

    Billy should be pinch running what a joke

  118. spro

    It’s only a critical situation in the last inning of the game, we don’t want to substitute our fastest guy who says he’s fine. We’d rather give away an out on a bunt.

  119. jdx19

    Hamilton is obviously not available. THat’s the one thing PRice has never had a hard time doing.

  120. CBD

    56 innings vs STL this year… Chapman with 1 inning pitched

    • kmartin

      He only pitched 5.1 innings against St. Louis in 2014. We like to rest him against St. Louis.

  121. Tom Reed

    Just more of the anemic Reds offense. Leake pitches well for eight innings and the Reds get him 1 run. The same old same old from the last few years.

  122. charlottencredsfan

    It would prevent a failed bunt.

  123. jdx19

    I hear having AA catchers bunt is a good plan.

  124. tct

    Why in the world would you call a bunt when you are behind in the ninth with a guy who probably doesn’t bunt much anyway?

  125. Steve Mancuso

    VAREDSFANS just bought JDX19 a hat for winning a contest. Thanks!

    • jdx19

      Oh, wow! What did I do? 🙂

      I actually already have one. I bought one last year. Please give to 2nd place!

      Thanks, though, VAREDSFAN!

      • VaRedsFan

        I’ll let you transfer it to whomever you want…maybe tomorrow’s game thread

  126. RedAlert

    Price is just unbelievable with his strategic moves – unbelievably bad !!!

  127. CP

    On hindsight, playing with a 23 man roster wasn’t a good idea.

  128. Nate

    Wow lucky that Boesch didn’t get out

  129. jessecuster44

    Why not steal from the get go?

  130. CBD

    lol !!!!!!!

    Really no clue what they are doing… its amazing.

  131. Doctor K

    For Christmas I’m going to buy the Reds a take sign

  132. Jeremy Forbes

    Can these ESPN guys possibly have any more manlove for Molina than they’re showing right now? No guys, Molina isn’t the reason Hamilton isn’t pinch running. His groin is. Molina’s 0-7 at throwing out Hamilton.

  133. jessecuster44

    Let’s just swing at everything.

  134. Nate

    first pitch swinging and the guy has had problems with control

  135. jdx19

    Boesch, Barnhart, Pena, Schumaker are the actual names of players that went to bat for the Reds in the 9th inning.

  136. RedAlert

    Just forfeit the St. Louis games the next time the series comes around – Save us all the agony Bryan

  137. mtkal

    Just not professional hitting at all by several in the Reds’ line up. Wow!

  138. spro

    At least it was a quick game. Thanks to Bryan Price with no moves.

    • charlottencredsfan

      What do we have to lose? Better than any game Marlon has had this year. Hit 3 rockets. Is Negron in the doghouse?

  139. RedAlert

    Got an “A ” ball manager trying to run a major league tream – this team has no chance

    • RedAlert

      Price has not impressed me that he has learned anything from his managerial experience last year – really disappointing – indeed it’s like Groundhog Day –

  140. bcw56

    If you were going to pinch hit with Pena, why not replace Tuck there and then use a better hitter for the pitcher spot?

  141. CP

    Mesoraco clearly isn’t available. Hamilton clearly isn’t available. This isn’t Price’s fault. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of any other organization having this problem, except for the Reds. This is a GM issue.

    • AARON

      It’s both. While Price may not have the “best’ available… he certainly didn’t use what he did have tonight in the best way possible to win. That is not on Walt.

      • jessecuster44

        Disagree. That bench is all Walt’s fault. every single player.

      • Carl Sayre

        I am not happy with the lack of talent to choose from but to blame anybody other than Price for this run of losses is inconcievable to me.This game was just the latest in a line of WTH is he thinking.

      • tct

        It’s on both. Price was the one calling for the bunt to try to give away one of his last three outs, when he was behind, just to get a runner to second. Barnhart might have gotten a walk there the way Walden was pitching early in the count. Or he might have gotten a hit. The chances of Tucker doing something good there are greater than the chances of a double play.

      • CP

        I think Tucker is a poor enough hitter that the expected runs chart would actually favor him bunting (assuming he can actually bunt with any proficiency, which I don’t know but Price should). I’d pinch hit for him there, but if you leave Tucker in, you treat him like you would Mike Leake.

    • ProspectCincy

      With regard to the bench hitters available; I agree.

      But Price has been horrid with the pitching staff this season. Tonight’s game was no different; he had a plethora of LHP available to go against Wong and he chose no-one. He could have walked Wong to set up a double play with the slow footed Reynolds who would assuredly pinch hit … and he didn’t. Instead, he walks JON bleeping JAY to pitch to Molina with the bases loaded (last night).

      Dude doesn’t have a clue.

    • Jeremy Forbes

      Language, man. Family friendly site.

    • jessecuster44

      Jake is just saying what many are thinking. (IN APRIL) The key here, as in most life situations, is not to say it out loud.

  142. jessecuster44

    If Bryan Price is on the team charter tonight, I’ll be disappointed. I never thought any manager could deserve a quicker hook than Doggie got in 1993, but Price is right up there. He’s terrible.

    • Tom Reed

      Agreed. Two weeks in and if Price is still around in two more weeks, the Reds will be in last place come October. Any manager that says to a St. Louis sportswriter that the Reds are not mentally ready to win at Busch Stadium should be fired.

  143. Jake

    Pinch hit Negron for Leake? No cant do that we got PENA
    Pinch hit Negron for Schumaker? Not enough grit

  144. VaRedsFan

    The losing move was leaving Leake in vs Wong

    • jdx19

      Results-based thinking. Hindsight. Etc.

      Leake was cruising. Wong isn’t really that good. No one in the bullpen not named Chapman is really that good.

      Of all Price’s bad decisions on a daily basis, leaving Leake in didn’t really seem very bad to me.

    • jessecuster44

      Bingo. Leake has a history of cruising along, then losing it in the late innings. The excuse will be that the bullpen has been bad, but you get Chappy in there. This was a game the Reds needed to win, and they didn’t pull out all the stops to do so.

      Very difficult to like this team, or the people running it.

      • Robby20

        Very much the same team we have been watching since September of 2013. And no one at the top seems to care. Very boring team. Although I will say watching Votto bat is enjoyable. I forgot how good he is . Glad to see he got more fit and worked hard to get healthy. Too bad some of the other guys haven’t done the same.

  145. jdx19

    Why can’t major league hitters understand the concept of trying to work a walk? Why? First pitch swinging. All. The. Time.

    That sometimes work if you are a good hitter. Cozart and Pena, in fact, are horrendously bad hitters.

    • jessecuster44

      Didn’t Cozart exist in the Reds’ minors when batters were instructed to take a pitch?

      • jdx19

        I’m not sure the time period you mention exists.

      • jessecuster44

        It did. Maybe during the Krivsky or O’Brien eras

  146. jdx19

    Lost in all the ineptitude in STL, boy the Royals sure are babies. They are throwing at A’s like 4-5 times for a single hard slide into 2nd that was clearly not intentional. And as they are being escorted off the field after being tossed, they are telling Lawrie “i’ll hit you in the head next time.” Be careful, little Royals. Brett Lawrie will wreck you. He’s a large man.

    • jessecuster44

      Thinking we don’t know the whole story there.

      • jdx19

        We do. If you’ve followed it the last 3 days. The whole story is out there.

      • charlottencredsfan

        You really think that? Call me jaded then.

      • jessecuster44

        watching it now. It’s so over-the-top, I have to think there’s something else there.

        We should trade for Brett Lawrie.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Agree, Royals strike me as happy warriors. Follow their games quite a bit and they are some good kids.

    • Carl Sayre

      A hard slide is one thing but coming in with your cleats around the knees the Royals should have been headhunting.

  147. JimS

    Last four losses, they scored 0, 1, 2, and 1 runs.

    • jessecuster44

      Thank goodness the offense got addressed this offseason. “Everyone will be healthy!” Well guess what, two weeks in and Mes and Billy are hurt already.

      Walt is horrible.

      • RedAlert

        Couple that with an inept manager and it adds up to a long , long year

      • jessecuster44

        They ought to trade Cueto and Chappy NOW – if this is what’s coming for the next three months.

      • Robby20

        Worse than horrible. Hunter Pence was available a couple years ago, Nelson Cruz 2 years ago and last year, Yoenis Cespedes last year. The best the Reds can do is Ludwick and Byrd.

        The offense was horrible last year. The approach at the plate by most of the hitters in the line-up has been awful for multiple years. The bullpen was abysmal last year.

        Is there any evidence anything has been done to improve the team? There are some teams that have figured out the importance of having guys on the team who work the count, are patient and make the other team’s pitchers work. The Reds keep bringing in low on base percentage guys who strikeout a ton. It’s not working.

        Time to change direction at the top.

  148. PARedsfan

    New year, same BS from this team and it’s rudderless management. It’s an embarrassment. So was seeing ex-Cardinal retread Schumaker starting in LF and predictably going 0 for 4. I’m sure the Cardinals wish they could play the Reds everyday, almost automatic W.

    • PARedsfan bad .. gritty Skip was 0 for 5, and a robust .077 average.

  149. Robby20

    Already said but all you need to know about the Reds is that with the game on the line, top of the ninth, tying run on first and Barhardt, Pena and Schumaker are the best you can bring to the plate.

  150. Robby20

    I’m guessing Cueto, Leake, Chapman, Bruce, Phillips and Votto are all available. Although no one wants Phillips, Bruce’s trade value couldn’t be lower and Votto may be too pricey. So it will likely be Cueto, Leake and Chapman who are dangled for prospects and the long rebuilding process will start anew. Is there anyone who thinks Jocketty and his team are the ones that should be in charge of the rebuilding process?

    • Scot Lykins

      Where do you start? The problem is there are so many holes. It is not just one spot in any area. The bullpen needs 3 arms, maybe two. Our batting line-up needs three at least. Frazier, Bruce, Phillips, Messoraco, and Byrd are hackers. Hamilton can’t get on base.

    • Carl Sayre

      Chapman will garner a lot of interest from other teams………….he is well rested.