The Reds are starting to provide answers to playing time and role questions. The most important of these was which pitchers would win the #4 and #5 spots in the rotation. Kevin Michell wrote an extensive breakdown of the competition between Tony Cingrani, Anthony DeSclafani and Raisel Iglesias a few weeks ago.

Manager Bryan Price made news a few minutes ago when he told the press that Tony Cingrani will begin the season in the bullpen and the Reds will start stretching out Raisel Iglesias to start. This announcement accompanies Price’s switch of starters in today’s game (lineup) against the SF Giants (4:05 ET) from Cingrani to Iglesias.

The two pitchers had put up similar game performances thus far in Goodyear. Each had thrown five innings. Cingrani had given up one earned run and Iglesias none. Cingrani had struck out three and walked two. Iglesias had struck out four and walked two. Iglesias gave up both walks during his nervous first appearance. He’s looked much better his second and third stints.

After the Mat Latos and Alfredo Simon trades, Price had said Cingrani and Desclafani had the inside track on the starting jobs. But prior to those trades, Price had offered these words of concern about Cingrani’s role:

“He certainly didn’t pitch the way he’s capable of pitching this year after his first start against St. Louis. That being said, we discovered the soreness in his shoulder and a weakness. I think we’re optimistic that he can recapture what we’ve seen in the past. I think the more he starts, the more it becomes apparent that he definitely needs to improve the breaking ball and the change-up or he’ll be better served pitching out of the bullpen.”

The move gives the Reds another left-handed arm in the bullpen to accompany Manna Parra and, of course, Aroldis Chapman. John Fay had reported that Cingrani’s fastball velocity had increased to 94 mph. So this doesn’t seem like a decision based on Cingrani’s health. The move may say as much about growing pessimism regarding the health of Sean Marshall’s left shoulder as it does anything else. Although if that’s the case, it would be strange to prioritize a few lefty-lefty bullpen match-ups over a starter that could throw 150+ innings. Especially since Cingrani wouldn’t be the only lefty in the pen.

Cingrani may not have convinced the coaching staff that he had developed a third (or second) pitch and that his portfolio was better suited for no more than one trip through the batting order. Remember that Cingrani had been a reliever in college.

Or the decision could have been based on a growing recognition that Raisel Iglesias has electric stuff and shouldn’t be wasted in the bullpen. Iglesias joined the Reds last summer after defecting from Cuba. Questions had swirled all spring about his role this year with the Reds.

This announcement also clears the way for veteran Jason Marquis or Paul Maholm to fill-in for Homer Bailey the first time or two through the rotation. Bailey threw 31 pitches against live hitters on Saturday morning with no pain or discomfort.

64 Responses

  1. Yippee

    Sounds like Marshall may be done? Marquis gets the final rotation spot? Iglesias must be pretty impressive, I like this news!

    • User1022

      Marshall has been done for nearly 2 years now. Really about time for the Reds to just cut bait. He’s become another lost “M” reliever for the Reds, joining Majewski, Masset, and Madson.

      • sezwhom

        Another lost “M” reliever. Good one.

        Cingrani to the pen is fine by me. Let’s see what Iglesias can bring.

    • charlottencredsfan

      What little I’ve see of Iglesias, looks good. Today’s game should be interesting. Anyone know if JV is going to play?

  2. George Mirones

    next announcement is on 3/28/15, “Cingrani being assigned to AAA for further evaluation”.
    next announcement is on 4/7/15 “Cingrani being scratched from 1st start due to stiffness in arm”

    And the beat goes on…

  3. ProspectCincy

    How many times is this organization going to mess with this kids arm? He goes from starter, to bullpen, to starter, to bullpen, to starter, now back to bullpen?

    Cincinnati has two of the best four left handed pitchers in the NL central on their roster, and they’re both gonna throw 70 innings this season. Incredibly, incredibly stupid.

    • charlottencredsfan

      My guess is that it’s about pitch count. I’ll be surprised if TC is a MLB starting pitcher for any length of time. His stuff lends itself to a bullpen guy.

      • ProspectCincy

        One less complete game for TC than Max Scherzer; pitch counts aren’t everything.

        But let’s stretch out the guy who has never thrown more than 83 innings in a year; and a total of 54 last year, in mid March. Surely his arm is good for 175+ …

        I haven’t found one single scouting report that lends itself to suggest Iglesias can ever become a successful starting pitcher; so instead of Chapman, instead of Cingrani, let’s just try it. What’s the worst that can happen?

        I just don’t understand.

      • Steve Mancuso

        Cingrani threw only 63 innings last year. Who else would you rather see start?

        You haven’t looked hard if you haven’t seen a positive scouting report on Iglesias and his potential as a starter.

      • Frogger

        Very interesting. Complete faith that Price knows what he is doing. Arm trouble the previous year for a talented lefty who hasn’t developed good secondary pitches to the bullpen. Cingrani will take this bullpen to another level. Maximum effort on his fastball. Gradually increase work load after injury. Maybe a starter in the future, but this is a safe bet you don’t have to worry about. Much more confident in Cingrani out of pen for lefty hitter than Parra at this point. Room for Lorenzen…..rotation??? Just hope Price keeps going with those instincts.

      • ProspectCincy

        Comon Steve. Cingrani threw 135 innings in ’13 and 150 innings in ’12. Rasiel has never topped 83 innings, and has started 5 games in his career (and is already 25 years old).

        The starting staff should be, without hesitation, Cueto / Bailey / Leake / Tony C / Tony D. The chatter about Jason Marquis is ridiculous because of 9 meaningless spring training innings, and equally crazy is that a guy who has a unique delivery on every pitch, and has never thrown every five days, is going to start the season as one of the Reds starting five (even if it’s just for two starts while Bailey is out).

        Chapman was 21 when he came over and had started every game he pitched in Cuba. He threw 100+ innings the year before the Reds grabbed him, and the Reds chose to move him to the pen with more than enough time to groom him into the rotation.

        They’re rushing here to try and not make the same mistake. And it’s going to end worse than the first time (because at least Chapman stayed healthy).

      • Steve Mancuso

        Tony Cingrani threw only 63 innings last year because he had a *shoulder injury* so I don’t think he’s the guy the Reds should target for a huge workload, even if he is one of the best five starters.

        (Please quit violating our site guidelines with profanity or censor workarounds and use the player’s correct name. I’ve taken the time to edit a few of your comments, but I won’t anymore. I’ll just delete them. You’ll have to communicate your ideas without them, like everyone else here.)

      • DHud

        I like Lorenzen as a starter and I think the organization does too, but I don’t think he’s in consideration for a spot this year. If anything, moving Cingrani to the pen lessens the need for the Reds to stunt Lorenzen in the bullpen this year. Now he can go to Pensacola or Louisville and continue to stretch his arm out

      • ProspectCincy

        Steve, again your exaggerating.

        You’ve edited one, not “a few” and deleted one. I’m not writing censor work-arounds, just random characters to express frustration.

        Again, Cingrani has thrown 125+ quality innings in ’12 and ’13 and has shown he can handle the workload. This move looks to be more about slotting Marquis into the 5 slot rather than Iglesias (just coinciding news I suppose), but that is equally stupid. Go ask the king of spring, Mike Moustakas what stats mean in March.

        It looks this way. Price is saying, Marquis starter, Cingrani pen is better than the combination of Cingrani starter, Holberg pen (insert any pen name available here). And while that may be true if everyone was equal in the equation, it’s not true when the starter equals 70%+.

        This is a mistake, a big mistake, and yet again Price is showing why he should never have been selected as manager.

      • Joe Atkinson

        Prospect, I don’t understand why this bothers you so much. Cingrani had a good 2013, but with or without the injury, the league was starting to figure him out last year. His overreliance on the fastball (a result of never truly developing his complementary pitches) meant that he had to rely on a deceptive delivery. That served him well in 2013, but you can only fool big league hitters for so long before they adjust – and what we saw early last year, arm fatigue or no, was hitters figuring out that delivery (especially the second and third time through the lineup). So Cingrani had to start dancing around the strike zone to try and fool them, which led to more balls, which led to more walks, which led to shorter outings, which … well, you get the point. Until he develops his secondary pitches, Cingrani is best suited to be a bullpen pitcher – someone who comes in and sees the hitter once, then gets out of the game before they can figure him out.

      • sezwhom

        Prospectcincy: Price knows these guys better than me and you. I know, surprise. However, the upside with Iglesias is much higher than Cingrani. Let’s see what he brings to the table before we criticize.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        And, wasn’t TC shut down the last two seasons because of injury? I know last season he was. And, the season before, I want to say he at least had injuries then. I believe he was a reliever prior to coming to the Reds. I wouldn’t be surprised he’s feeling something that simply doesn’t lend his game to starting.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        I mean, a pitcher can be effective pitching very few innings, but the more they throw, the worse their body can feel.

    • JRS1972

      Hahahaha. Trying to figure out where among pitchers like Kershaw, Lester, Bumgarner, and Hamels Cingrani ranks.

      • lwblogger2

        Well obviously aside from maybe Kershaw, all those guys would be the Reds #2 starter. Cingrani? Apparently not in the rotation.

      • jdx19

        He said two of the best 4 in the NL central. Stil ludicrous, of course. Cingrani was a small sample size impressive dude in 2013, but has yet to show she has what it takes to be a regular in a rotation.

  4. Dan in Dayton

    I’m going to focus less on Cingrani and express some excitement for Iglesias as a starter. I think it’s very exciting and encouraging that they are going to take a chance on his arm in the rotation. I think many cringed at the “spoiling” of Chapman’s supreme talent only being used for ~70 innings/season. If Iglesias turns out to be as electric as his “stuff” (although it is a VERY small sample size) seems to be, he could be outstanding as a starter, and could be a cornerstone in the rotation for the next several years. Let’s hope we can look back at the all star break and both guys are having successful seasons in their respective roles.

    • lwblogger2

      My only issue with Iglesias is that his delivery is all over the place. From what little I’ve seen, his release point changes, his arm angle changes, his landing spot changes, how he holds his head changes. Just makes me worry about injury and command. Of course, Cingrani’s delivery is odd and not always repeatable either.

      • greenmtred

        Bronson Arroyo was all over the place, too. I understand your concern, though. Also, does anyone think that Iglesias, due to innings limitations, may share a spot with someone else?

  5. reaganspad

    It also means that Holmberg is not going to be tried in the pen.

    Maybe Cingrani can’t get thru the lineup a second or third time, but Holmberg in my mind is a bigger problem and probably better suited for the pen.

    “The biggest surprise in the group is Holmberg, 23. He was competing for the fourth or fifth spot in the rotation. He went 2-1 with a 2.50 ERA in September last year. He was 0-1 with a 2.57 ERA over three games and seven innings this spring.”

    • DHud

      Holmberg was optioned to Louisville this morning along with Dylan Axelrod and a few others. Likely enabling both to remain stretched out as starters in case of a needed rotation fill in

  6. Kyle Farmer

    I may be reading too much into this but this organization is so wedded to the idea of a closer (thanks, Dusty) that we’ve seen it waste one of the best arms of this generation in that role (thanks, Dusty). That being said, they probably know that there’s basically no chance of bringing Chapman back next year, so they need a closer for next year. I used to think that could be Hoover (yes, seriously) but maybe this is a season-long audition for Cingrani to take over as closer next year.

    • ProspectCincy

      Very possible. Sounds like Fay is now saying that Iglesias is only going to start a couple of games for CIN (until Bailey comes back), and then will go to AA Pensacola.

      Nice to see the Reds have become an AAAA affiliate for trial runs.

      • jdx19

        Well this puts a damper on things. I was about to extoll Price and the Reds for doing something decisive. I have no idea if Igleasia or Cingrani would be a better choice, but doing SOMETHING is appreciated by this Reds’ fan. But, if it’s just a few starts and then AA, sigh.

      • Frogger

        Crap… What a waste. Just curious. Does anyone think we can compete with Marquis and Maholm in the rotation? Thought we were already asking too much of the rookie Desco. Keep one maybe… Please get back soon Homer. Every projection shows negative war for both Marquis and Maholm. Desco. barely positive war. Jeez… At best that gives us maybe 2 war from 3/5ths rotation. This has to be misdirection by Price. Boggles the mind.

      • Thegafffer

        This is actually a decent decision given that it would be very dangerous to have Iglesius throw more than 120 innings this year. I like the idea of 1) riding the hot arm of Iglesius right now and letting him recover over the summer 2) having Cingrani start out slowly and work himslef back to being a 5th starter down the road this year. IF the reds get in the playoffs then you could have Iglesisus in the bullpen then!

      • Frogger

        I totally agree with riding Iglesias through first half and switching to another talented arm. I am also saying if you put Maholm and Marquis in rotation you can’t expect to compete. My point was use Iglesias in the rotation and switch to someone else when the time comes. I don’t want to hear from Price or Jockety in June that we have to trade Cueto, because we gave it our best shot and failed. Not if M&M are part of this pitching rotation. Start using the prospects when they are ready. You have a draft every year. Don’t care if the prospect gets super two status you should have someone to replace them and so on. Going to be a total shocker if Marquis has a 1.0 ERA in March and a 5.50 ERA in April.

  7. Jeremy Conley

    This all makes perfect sense to me. Iglesias should be a starter, but also probably needs some refinement of his delivery. So the approach they’re taking with him seems reasonable.

    Cingrani just doesn’t have the pitches to be a starter. Once the league got a book on him, his high straight fastball wasn’t enough to get through 5 innings. I think he probably has a good career as a reliever ahead of him, especially if he can keep the ball in the yard a little more.

    I’m not thrilled with Marquis and Desclafini in the rotation, but it’s probably the best option we have. If Iglesias is amazing, they won’t send him down.

    • Grand Salami

      Agreed. It boils down to the fact that Marquis and Maholm have proven they can do it, they just need to show something left in the tank. Price is capable of making that call.

      As for the controversy b/t Tony C. and Raul I. – it all comes down to repertoire. Iglesias has plus stuff on a couple pitches and a ton of versatility. Cingrani, as Steve noted, has one pitch, maybe two. Coming off a shoulder injury, this decision doesn’t seem terribly hard to make.

      • Frogger

        Marquis and Maholm have proven they are as good as there baseball card. Combine that with lack of upside and I will take the young talent every time.

  8. Jeremy Forbes

    I don’t like it at all. Cingrani will give up a solo homer here and there, which is okay when it’s spread over a 5-7 inning start. If you give up a solo homer in a 1 inning appearance, it’s a total failure.

    When he was healthy in 2013, he had 6 starts of 1.15 ERA in AAA and 104.2 innings of 2.92 ERA ball against major league players.

    Iglesias had a 3.05 ERA in 82.2 innings in Cuba in 2012, all but two of his appearances being in relief. Between 2012 and the start of this Spring, he had pitched, what, like 7 innings in the Fall league? That’s it.

    I’ll take the guy who has proven he can have success while starting against major league talent over the guy who’s untried and has never pitched any real amount of innings.

    • Drew

      We know Cingrani has health issues and concerns over IF his body can handle starting. We also know this kid from Cuba is young and unknown. What is the harm in putting Cingrani in the pen to start and see what the young kid can do. IF he gets hammered he goes to AAA to work on things and Cingrani comes up and into the SR.

      • Jeremy Forbes

        You say young, but he’s 25. He and Cingrani are both heading into their age 25 season. He’s unknown because outside of Cuba, where he was a 3.47 ERA reliever with a 4.6 BB/9 and 6.8 K/9, he’s only pitched 7 innings in the Fall League and now 5 innings in Spring Training.

        Just seems like a bad idea. 7 innings in the Fall and 5 in the Spring just isn’t enough to make this move. Heck, he’s not even gone longer than 2 innings this Spring. I’d like to see him start in AA then AAA this year if they want him to be a starter.

        – – –
        Keep this in mind when looking at Spring pitching: Last year in Spring, Manny Parra had a 0.90 ERA in 10 IP. Nick Christiani had a 1.67 ERA in 11 innings. Trevor Bell had a 1.04 ERA in 8.2 innings.

        In the regular season, those numbers became 4.66 ERA in 36.2 IP, 5.54 ERA in 13 IP, and 67.50 ERA in 0.2 IP, respectively.

        Cueto’s 2014 Spring? 4.61 ERA in 13.2 IP.

        It really doesn’t have any bearing on future success.

      • lwblogger2

        Yeah, I have to hope that Price is seeing something in Iglesias that we aren’t or that the stats from Cuba didn’t show.

      • Tom Diesman

        I’d settle for the next Norm Charlton. 🙂

    • jdx19

      “Proven” is a pretty strong word when stating a 104.2 IP sample size. I’d love to see him with another chance to start if healthy, but I’ll assume Price knows more than me about it.

      • Jeremy Forbes

        Comparatively proven, at least. More so than a guy who’s never pitched in the majors or the minors, and who has been a relief pitcher his whole career.

        Meanwhile, Cingrani has had a start of 7 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 11 strikeouts against a 92-70 Dodgers team. He also had a 6 inning, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 11 strikeout start against an 86-76 Nationals team.

        Heck, in 2014 before his back became an issue, he started the season with a 7 inning, 2 hit, 0 run, 2 walk, 9 strikeout game against the 90-72 Cardinals.

        He has that capability in him against winning major league teams. It just seems a shame to not develop it by continually switching him back and forth between starter and reliever.

  9. unc reds fan

    Love it…Finally the Reds make a move that makes sense…we all saw how well it worked to pay big dollars for a player only to make him a closer…don’t waste talent in the bullpen…great move Mr Price…I still have hope…secondly I think Cingrani will be a great bullpen addition as his strength fits better once through a rotation as opposed to several times through like you might expect from a starter

  10. sultanofswaff

    I like the move. I’ve been saying all along the best move would be to piggyback Iglesias and Lorenzen (or even Cingrani). One guy is the #5 starter the first half of the year and the other is in the bullpen, then they switch. It allows both guys to lay the foundation to start next year while still keeping their innings reasonable…..and we strengthen the bullpen in the process.

    There would also be a nice benefit of Iglesias getting a lap around the league before the scouts can get a book on him and adjust.

    • jdx19

      Interesting.

      Perhaps a bit off-topic, but how do you guys view betting on baseball relative to more recent baseball crimes like doping? Basically, if A-Rod only gets 1 year and guys like McGwire and Sosa get no penalty at all, does Pete really deserve a lifetime ban?

      Discuss!

  11. Grant Freking

    This is all much ado about nothing, really. Six weeks from now we’ll have a better picture of things. Cingrani could easily slide back into the rotation. The Reds are likely to have innings limits on Cingrani and Iglesias (and Michael Lorenzen) anyway, so this could be a way of staggering everyone.

  12. WVRedlegs

    Does this mean the Opening Day starting rotation will be Cueto, Leake, Iglesias, DeSclafani and Marquis? The Reds open with 22 straight games against NLC teams. Say it ain’t so.
    They have the potential to finish 1st in the NLC. But, they have the ability to fall flat on their face and finish last. And, a front office that is old, out of touch with the game, and has a knack for the inability to pull off any meaningful in-season move.
    Get buckled up and strapped in, because this season is going to have more ups & downs and twists & turns than the rides at Kings Island. Pepto, Tums and Rolaids won’t do this season. Going to need the strong stuff, Prevacid or Nexium for the heartburn that is lurking in the shadows.
    Still two weeks to go in spring training, but the offense isn’t much to write home about yet either.
    April could be a tough month while the Reds try to figure out what kind of team they are. A .500 team at the end of April won’t be a bad thing.

    • whereruklu

      Gotta agree with you. I’ve said for some time now that even if Votto and Bruce stay healthy and give the years they are capable of, all is going to ride on the pitching staff this year. Cuetto is certainly able, Homer is a question mark, up one outing and flat the next. I love Leake, but he too has good days and then bad ones, so not reliable. With the last two slots up for grabs, that is not a good sign of a stable starting staff. Chapman is going to be Chappy, with an occasional glitch, but has come to be someone who can be counted on. In between is likely to be a rollercoaster ride and maybe Cingrani could be a great help by only pitching an inning or two at a time. I love Tony and wish him alot of luck. The Reds got this way by screwing up contract negociations with huge $$ and long time terms. Now,(and maybe again next year with Cuetto) they find themselves cash strapped and can’t go out and find (read- AFFORD) what ails them. Sorry to say, I gave up on Marshall long ago, and so should the Reds. Maybe a real nice guy, but will never pitch for anyone again. Unlike with the Cardinals, Jocketty seems to have screwed this one up this time. No contending team can be a contender without strength up the middle, so Cosart (or whoever) and an aging Phillips (I love ya, man) are also going to be showing up on Walt’s plate real soon. I’d give Negron a chance. My heart is with the guys this year, but unless the pitching staff can perform better this year, it may be a long season with a team ERA of over 4.50 or so.

      • whereruklu

        Also, not only is the first month going to tell something about this team, but September could be a division killer too.

    • lwblogger2

      Yeah, in my opinion, there are only two MLB pitchers in that rotation and one of them should be a #4 starter. DeScalfani may work as a #5 but who knows? Iglesias should be at AAA or even AA getting starts to see what the heck we have. Marquis hasn’t been good for a while. He didn’t pitch last year because of the injury and in 2012-2013, made a combined 42 starts and was wholly unimpressive. I have more faith in Maholm and that’s not saying much.

  13. i71_Exile

    Seems like a good move to me. Cingrani is a five inning pitcher when healthy (which kills the bullpen) and might benefit from being eased back in. Let’s see what Iglesias can do. After last year, I don’t trust LeCure, Parra, or Hoover. Once Bailey is back, we are fretting over fifth starters which isn’t all that significant.

  14. The Next Janish

    Cingrani has/had a shoulder impingement same as Bailey did (5 years ago?).. Lets not act like he’s the next marshall. If he has strengthened properly he should be fine. Come to think of if when Bailey came back from rehabbing his shoulder for the same issue his fastball also gained a little speed too.

    • wizeman

      anybody know how many pitches Iglesias threw today. know he went 2.2 but was just wondering

  15. ohiojimw

    I see this as being about the opening month of the season all inside the division. Die could be cast that could take months to turn around in either the positive or negative sense.

    Along with Marquis and Iglesias, I expect them to go with Maholm. That gives them two guys who have been there and done that and a guy with “electric” stuff and virtually no scouting reports or videos to assist the opposition in preparation. At a time of the season when arms are often still ahead of bats and hitting weather can be brutal, they see this as their surest and strongest combination. You get what the two old guys have left in the tank at the time of year it is likely to yield the best results.

    Homer fills in as the weather becomes less of a potential issue to him. Descalfini and even Holmberg (not to mention Loresen) are ready to fill in when Marquis and Maholm fade and/ or teams start to catch up with them with Iglesias just over the horizon (along with several others).

    In a way it is tough news for Cingrani but given his ongoing injury history, this seems the best for him as well as the team. We may always lament that we never got the chance to see if Chapman could duplicate as a starter what he did in the pen. With Cingrani we’ve seen, it is just that the answer isn’t what we might have wished it to be. However for three years he has struggled to stay in the rotation and remain consistent while going deeper into games. Alas, it just isn’t in his physical make up, as much as we might wish it were or hope one more try would show it to be. In the end his issues go back to his shoulder and delivery and as Price said back before the Simon and Latos trades the bast place for Cingrani is probably the pen.

    • ProspectCincy

      Cingrani has only been in Cincinnati for a year and a half, and still hasn’t made a full season’s worth of starts. You make it sound like “3 years he has struggled” … that’s not even close to accurate. Cingrani has had the same delivery for 10 years now, and while he has had shoulder issues the last year+, to write him off because of a year’s worth of injury is unfair. Did you write of Cueto and Votto already too?

      If the Reds go with both Maholm and Marquis, there is no question this team finishes in last place in ’15 and beyond. They’ll continue to develop bullpen arms, while the rest of the league passes them by and then some.

      This is a reversible mistake though. Once Cincinnati is no longer playing to get into the post-season (likely sometime in June), Cingrani will likely be back in the starting rotation. That’s if, of course, his arm is still attached because it will be his 8th switch in roles in just four years.

      • lwblogger2

        There are a lot of places I agree with you about this but I think you’re exaggerating the lasting effects of the role changes more than a little. It’s mid-spring and Cingrani really hasn’t gotten stretched out too far. It is also not nearly as bad, especially when trying to limit a pitcher’s innings, to have him work out of the pen for part of the season and then move him to the rotation.

        Cingrani started life as a reliever, he then worked as a starter in the minors as a pro. He came up for the Reds and worked out of the pen as a reliever but I don’t recall him going back-to-back days or even warming up back-to-back days in that stint. The next season the Reds made him a starter. He was very solid in the rotation but rarely worked deep into games. Then last year, he worked as a starter prior to being shut down with some shoulder trouble. Then we have spring so far this season, which I mentioned above. I don’t see this making Cingrani’s arm fall off. If anything, they may be limiting his workload and trying to limit the chances of his arm falling off. Starting pitchers don’t really get into that starting routine until the end of spring training, unless they are vets who are sure they will be starting.

  16. VaRedsFan

    What I’m more worried about is why are the keys to a starting spot are just being handed to Desclafini. He hasn’t exactly impressed so far.

  17. Carl Sayre

    Why does it have to be just one reason Price is making this move? It could be and probably is a combination of TC is a lefty, he hasn’t developed a reliable 2nd pitch, coming off an injury and that Inglesias has live arm that Price thinks will be effective until HB is ready. I don’t care for Price as a manager but being fair Sparky couldn’t have done anything with last years infirmary. I do however think that Price is more than capable when it comes to his pitching staff.