I’m running low on optimistic comments to make in the game thread. So I borrowed this from Michael J. Hampton in last night’s game thread:

Some reasons to watch the last 5 weeks of the season:

I want to see if Latos can get his velocity up
I want to see if Cueto can win 20
I want to see if Bailey returns
I want to see if Simon can recover a little bit of his pre ASG luster (He was pitching over his head, but I think he is better than he has pitched post ASG, may be just be worn down)
I want to see if Frazier and Mesoraco can finish strong
I want to see if Bruce can get out of his funk
I want to see how well Phillips recovers from his surgery
I want to see if Hamilton works on improving some areas of his game, in particular plate discipline
and maybe in September, call up some of the AAA guys and see what they got

and maybe, just maybe, 3 weeks of a fully recovered Votto (The only way I want to see him this year).

Those are all good reasons to watch from here forward. However Michael did not mention a thing about the excitement of watching Skip Schumaker and Jack Hannahan. I’m sure it was just a mistake on his part.

Discuss the game here Reds fans!

1. Hamilton CF
2. Schumaker LF
3. Phillips 2B
4. Frazier 3B
5. Pena C
6. Heisey RF
7. Hannahan 1B
8. Cozart SS
9. Leake P

116 Responses

    • Shchi Cossack

      Darrin, I have to agree. I’ve got goose bumps all over just reading through the lineup…

      1] 0.688 OPS
      2] 0.602 OPS
      3] 0.683 OPS
      4] 0.798 OPS
      5] 0.674 OPS
      6] 0.627 OPS
      7] 0.293 OPS
      8] 0.566 OPS

      Just one player with an OPS even over .700. Leake better bring his A+ game tonight.


        Leake’s OPS nearly double Hannahan’s. And Leake has probably been asked to hit into an out 3 of 4 PA (bunt). Would Hannahan’s OPS be higher if he bunted every PA…one wonders?

      • Shchi Cossack

        Even more head-shaking reference…

        League average OPS=0.710

  1. RedAlert

    Saturday night special ( lineup ) from Bryan Baker – please give the man some toothpicks and sweatbands

  2. redsfan06

    Here’s something else t cheer for:
    If the Reds record ends up in the bottom 10, they get a protected signing of a free agent. Meaning they don’t have to give up a draft pick for signing someone.


      Jocketty will sign George Kotteras with that protected privilege. After all, he played in STL!

    • Shchi Cossack

      Not quite true. A bottom 10 finish protects the 1st round, top 10, draft pick. Any comp picks or subsequent draft picks are not protected and the top avaialbe draft pick would be forfeited to sign a FA who had declined an offer.

      • Vicferrari

        Who exactly would this be?, I want to make sure I have all the facts before rooting for them to lose.

  3. Shchi Cossack

    Maybe season long stats are not being fair. These must be the hot hitters to get the offense ignited. Looking just at August…

    1] 0.619 OPS
    2] 0.621 OPS
    3] 0.390 OPS
    4] 0.754 OPS
    5] 0.599 OPS
    6] 0.628 OPS
    7] 0.481 OPS
    8] 0.587 OPS

    Now I feel so much better…


      Thank goodness, now I see the value of playing Hannahan. He’s hotter than match as The Cowboy would say.

      • Kevin J. Brown (@ZebtheRed)

        I’m glad to see him get a start; give him a chance to break out. 20 PAs after being out the entire season doesn’t mean you’re a terrible player like most here think.

      • RedAlert

        Wow – unreal – never seen anybody defend this guy like you continue to do

      • Kevin J. Brown (@ZebtheRed)

        Might as well see what he can do since we’re on the hook for at least $2 million in 2015 even to get rid of him. I’d give him most of the starts at 1B against righties until JV comes back. We’re all agreed the Reds are out of it, so why not? There’s a week before the rosters expand anyway and Pena has played a lot this year.

  4. renbutler

    Huge mistake to try to start this on time. A cell with heavy rain is headed due south, straight at the park. It should be there within a half hour. There appears to be a decent window behind it.

    • George Mirones

      Expand your weather map to include Indianapolis. When that gets here everybody might as well go home and we Play the dreaded double-header tomorrow.

      • renbutler

        I actually just got that weather here north of Indy. I think there could be a window for a shortened game before that line hits Cincinnati.

      • Morgan Mayham

        Play two tomorrow… have corcino start one of them

  5. George Mirones

    The guys doing the nationals /giants game were using Baileys contract as a guideline as to what Zimmerman of the Nationals could get on an extension.

    • wildwestlv

      Jordan Zimmermann will/sholuld return much more $$$ than Homer Bailey. And the Nats owner will $$$.

  6. wildwestlv

    Double the fun, double the Pleasure. I predict a Braves’ sweep. Bring on the Cubs.

  7. wildwestlv

    If you’re (even secretly) rooting for a weather delay/postponement, you really have conceded the season. It is what it is.

  8. BigRedMike

    Bailey will make in 18m 2016 – what do with Cueto and Latos

    Top pitcher salary of the teams currently in the playoffs

    Orioles 11m
    Royals 13m
    Angels 16m two players
    A’s 7m
    Tigers 20m are going to let Scherzer go

    Nationals 8m
    Braves 14m one year contract
    Brewers 12m three similar contracts
    Dodgers 30m two large contracts
    Giants 20m

    Reds signed Bailey, 18m is at the top end of the teams above
    Cueto is very good – he will be 30 in 2016
    Latos and leake are arb eligible next year, wonder what they will get
    Can the Reds afford 2 or more high priced pitchers to go with Votto’s contract?

    • Steve Mancuso

      You’re doing a little apples-and-oranges thing here – using Bailey’s 2016 salary but comparing to 2014 current salaries of other teams. Bailey is only making $9 million this year (over half deferred) and $10 million next year. Compare 2015 salaries – Bailey at $10 million – with other playoff teams.

      Detroit – Verlander $28 million
      LA Angeles – Wilson $18.5 million, Weaver $18.2 million
      Seattle – Hernandez $24.8 million
      St. Louis – Wainwright $19.5 million
      Milwaukee – Lohse $11 million, Garza $12.5 million
      Washington – Zimmerman $16.5 million, Gonzalez $12.5 million
      LA Dodgers – Kershaw $32 million, Greinke $25 million
      SanFran – Cain $20 million, Lincecum $18 million, Hudson $12 million
      Philly – Lee $25 million, Hamels $23.5 million, Burnett $11.25 million
      Yankees (of course) – CC $23.5 million, Tanaka $22 million

      Baltimore and Kansas City don’t have any top-end starting pitchers signed for 2015 and that’s considered a huge flaw in their roster.

      The Reds can afford Latos or Cueto and Leake.

      • BigRedMike

        Thanks for the numbers, better presented than my list. Forgot the Mariners

        I used 2016 for Bailey since that will be the decision year for the other 3. Just not sure teams need to spend a lot on pitching.

        What will Latos/Leake get in arb next year?

        What is a comparison for Cueto’s next contract?

  9. George Mirones

    FSO saying that a decision will be discussed at 8:30 as to whether to play or not. That mess coming from the northwest will be about 35 minutes away by then. It is in greenfield now.

    • renbutler

      That line is going to take a lot longer than 35 minutes to get to the ballpark.

      Once this last little cell moves through, if the field is playable in a short time, they should start this game.

      • renbutler

        The line is moving more south than east.

    • ToddAlmighty

      You sure it’s not a discussion on if they should play or not because of the mess that is the Reds?

  10. kywhi

    Painful to visit the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and see a late-August headline beginning with these words, “Rising Cardinals …”

  11. Steve Mancuso

    First pitch at 9:05 tarp coming off per CTR.

    • renbutler

      Will FS1 stick with it? They have UFC Fight Night at 10:00.

      They left a Cardinals game recently, sending it to Fox Sports Midwest. I assume the Reds will be relegated to Fox Sports Ohio.

  12. sergeant2

    Considering the weather it looks like there’s pretty good crowd at the old ball orchard. Go Reds!

  13. charlottencredsfan

    Billy showing a very open stance in that AB. Can’t recall seeing that since May.

  14. sergeant2

    Is there a decent chance they’ll be able to get a complete game in tonight? I hope so.

    • renbutler

      The line is weakening and drifting south of Cincinnati.

      There could be raindrops, but I’m predicting a game played to completion.

    • sergeant2

      I say lose the Mohawks, they’re in the same league as Mullets and Rat Tails. (no offense to Cardinal fans)

    • Jake

      I agree with you on those. Especially the gloves. Try and count how many times Skip adjusts his gloves for an AB. They’re not going anywhere Skip, stop adjusting em. The stirrup socks look silly these days

  15. Kurt Frost

    Looking at the OPS of this lineup befuddles me when people are screaming to get rid of Votto.

    • Vicferrari

      who is screaming to get rid of Votto? Some might think it is a bad contract, but I missed all the people screaming…and do they look at OPS?

  16. Kurt Frost

    And I don’t think I can watch this. Harold Reynolds doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near a broadcast booth.

  17. BigRedSaguaro

    Todd strikes out a lot on pitches that land in the other batters box

  18. Steve Mancuso

    Mike Leake is really sharp tonight.

    • Steve Mancuso

      The offense, on the other hand …

  19. Michael J Hampton

    I’ve been watching the game on and off, but just now checked in to RedLegNation. I’m flattered :).

    And yeah, Chris, you caught me on Skip and Jack, what was I thinking.

  20. Vicferrari

    Folloing on GamedayQuestion: Did they really sacrifice Billy to get Leake over to 3rd in the 6th inning? Or was it a legit attempt to get on base?

    • Thegaffer

      Billy does that a lot, sort of a running bunt with someone on. If you check, I think he has done that 10-12 times this year as a way to keep his average up.

      • pinson343

        It wasn’t a running bunt after he had a strike on him. It was a sac bunt.

    • pinson343

      That was a sac bunt, not a drag bunt. It’s a different technique. They even explained it on tv. So Price had Hamiton sacrifice to put it on Schumaker to get the run in with 1 out. And Schumake got dominated, big surprise.

      • Vicferrari

        I know there has been a lot of questioning of strategy on the bunt but I seriously have to question how this helps you for the game. Not 2nd guessing since Schu did not get the SF- but you ruin chances of a big inning

    • Steve Mancuso

      Good to see. Bails out the awful bunt strategy. Wonder how many times Sparky had Pete bunt a runner from second to third?

      • George Mirones

        To use your words, “Apples to Oranges”

      • pinson343

        The main point for me is that he had Hamilton make the sac out so Schumaker could come thru with the big RBI. Makes me ill.

      • Vicferrari

        I do not care if Schu actually gets the runner in, it eliminates a chance at a big inning, with Billy on base there is very good chance he scores and if he makes contact there is a very good chance he accomplishes what the sacrifice does

      • Steve Mancuso

        bingo – when you play for one run, that’s all you get

      • pinson343

        I’m with you on that. If Hamilton is allowed to hit, they made have scored more than 1.

  21. pinson343

    Brandon ! They were saying on tv how he’d spotted Santana balk (before his hit) and the umpires missed it.

  22. pinson343

    I agree with bringing in Jumbo. Let’s hope it works out.

    • Vicferrari

      Really glad it worked out thank goodness that Descalso is not on the Braves roster, he would have came in and hit a bases clearing bloop double.
      Like the whole Jumbo story and want him to have success

  23. BigRedSaguaro

    Seems to always be one batter too late

  24. Vicferrari

    So what is the take on this move, I am on the fence of letting Leake get out of this mess, letting Jumbo get a chance at his 3rd blown save this week, just bad bullpen when a 30 year old rookie is your best option

  25. wildcat Reds fan

    I’m just afraid seeing Jumbo throw one right down broadway as he sometimes does in trying to bring his heat

    • pinson343

      His first pitch was a change up – that’s the adjustment he’s made after his bad outing against the Cardinals.

  26. kywhi

    Thank goodness Cozart was manning shortstop right there.

  27. pinson343

    Mike was tired, Jumbo has pitched well overall and – very important with the bases loaded – he doesn’t walk many. As I said above, I liked the move.

    Nice play by Cozart !

  28. BigRedSaguaro

    Zack is so good with the glove

  29. pinson343

    Broxton getting warmed up, so it seems that Chapman is available for the 9th.

    • Vicferrari

      1 for 3 night raises his BA to .130- I just wonder as a business model there must be a 100 other players at 1B they could play that would actually draw more fans just for the gimmic factor- probably would increase their chance of winning- be it Soto, Lutz, Sean Casey…maybe there was a time when Jack Hanahan was legit and I am just jaded with this shell of his former self

  30. Steve Mancuso

    That was a tough decision for Price, whether or not to take out Leake. I’m glad I didn’t have to make it. Not sure I could have looked Leake in the eyes and taken him out.

    Zack Cozart, making all the plays.

    • Vicferrari

      And eschewed the temptation to have Parra face Lastrella to get the lefty match-up- probably thought it out and realized they would counter with a righty
      Like I said above glad it worked out, I like the Jumbo story it is good for baseball

  31. jas428

    Time to trade the big guy. Excellent work!

  32. Vicferrari

    So is Chapman available? I find it a little weird that he was unavailable for the Card series but is going to pitch 4 innings in 3 days, allowed Broxton to not be used in crucial situations on 3 straight days

  33. sergeant2

    Finally! My internet connection has connected. Charter’s internet service was F.U.B.A.R. tonight. Go Reds!

  34. jas428

    How does Reynolds get so much work?

  35. sergeant2

    Whens the last time the Reds won a game 1-0 this season. I don’t know the answer to that question, but I would think they were due.

  36. kywhi

    The long national nightmare is over (at least temporarily)!

  37. sergeant2

    41,502 showed up for tonight’s game, 41,502. (its not a titanic struggle unless Marty says it is, and he’s off tonight.) Go Reds!

    • Steve Mancuso

      Great to see them get a win in front of a sellout crowd. I’m going tomorrow to cheer for two in a row.

      • sergeant2

        And considering the weather and the way things have been going for the Reds lately, a sellout crowd shows that Reds fans don’t have to take a back seat to any fans, when it comes to being loyal fans. Hope you have a good time at the game tomorrow Steve. Go Reds!

    • The Next Janish

      Proud of the fans coming out to support the team. 41,502 true fans in attendance tonight. Nice!

  38. Tom Reed

    A big win for the Reds in front of a big crowd. And a one-run win to boot.

  39. Vicferrari

    I would be so fired up right now had the Reds pulled out the 4 games the bullpen over 3 days- Sunday to Tuesday- Oh well I am Chapman is OK

  40. sergeant2

    I bet there will be a lot more comments posted when Redleg Nation members get home from the sellout game. I always like reading comments from the fans that were at the game. Go Reds! We’ll get em again tomorrow.