Final R H E
  Cincinnati Reds  (55-55) 1 6 0
  Miami Marlins (54-56) 2 7 0 
 W: Dunn (9-5)     L: LeCure (1-3)
 FanGraphs Win Probability |   Box Score    |   Stats


The pitching. I mean, that’s the all-year story right? It’s pretty rare that the pitching doesn’t get it done. Homer has been really good since a rough first month or so. I felt like he was kind of just okay tonight, but he still ended up with a good result against a good lineup.

Jumbo Diaz deserves his own line. One and a third with three strikeouts. It means something when you’re the guy they bring out to face Stanton.


The offense. Yada yada yada. You know how it  is. Todd Frazier has really been slumping lately. The Reds need someone to hit. The problems were exemplified in the tenth inning when a Chris Heisey triple plus three strikeouts yielded no runs.

I have been a big Zack Cozart booster at times, but it is really getting bad with the bat.

Sam LeCure has had better nights.

Not So Random Thoughts

I was very excited for replay when the season started, but the more I see of it, the less I like it. They ought to be able to handle it better than this.

Disappointing as this game was, the Reds will go for a series win tomorrow. That would be something, I guess.

Maybe I’m wrong about this, but one of the things that makes this team hard to watch isn’t that their kind of average it’s that they’re boring average.  Very little excitement on the roster right now. I pretty much only get really excited for a game when Cueto is pitching. I’m sure that will change sometimes before the end of the season, but right now, snore-o-rama.


34 Responses

    • shannon bubnick

      another game the reds would have won if the front office would have traded for some hitters imagine how good the reds pitchers would be if we had any offense

  1. Vicferrari

    Ant thoughts on the sacrifice by Cozart, it worked out short tern, but who knows what would have happened. My thought was 1 run was not good enough…but seriously doubt Cozart actually gets on and Billy’s seeing eye single may not have even occurred…also got to seriouslyquestion using a lefty Hannahan with Heisey, Ludwick or even lefty Lutz on the bench.
    This is a bad batting team given the current roster, but I seriously doubt that a player like Gotay or even Soto do not make this team better despite batting righty

  2. Vicferrari

    Very difficult to manager a roster when this occurs, serious have to question the extent of Bruce’s injury…I really thought he would bounce back but it keeps getting worse, Frazier and Mesoraco are not ready for prime time, they needed Votto, Bruce, and Phillips to be the stars…so close to having a great season

    • Mister D69

      I don’t understand why people keep blaming, or excusing, Bruce’s terribleness on injury. He says he’s physically fine. Is he lying? Is he “toughing it out”? Of does he simply stink?
      If he’s lying and/or toughing it out, he is doing no one any favors. In fact, he is hurting the team. I have no respect for that kind of macho act.
      If he simply stinks, why is he still in the line up?
      Either way, sit him out. Get him some coaching, mental or batting. Send him to L’ville. Do something. As it is he is a liability. A very major liability: worst hitter on the team. Period.

      • Sparky

        I don’t buy the injury excuses, to his credit he doesn’t buy it either. This is just Bruce to the negative extreme. Regular Bruce without the hot streaks. He needs to be taken out of his comfort zone quickly or he WILL end up being Drew Stubbs without the speed.

      • Kurt Frost

        Of course he’s lying, just like Phillips was lying last year. Then in spring training next year Bruce is going to announce he isn’t talking to the local media. Seriously, the guy doesn’t have to tell you if he’s hurt or not. His health is his business.

  3. Steve Checkosky

    A perfect example of the waste of Chapman. Last night he “saves” a 3 run lead. Tonight, with the score tied, he is not available.

    • Thegaffer

      You are incorrect. He was warming up, but with the this offense who knows how many innings. He would have pitched if it were at home, but away they bat last.

  4. sergeant2

    As disappointing and aggravating as tonight’s loss was, it was blood pressure lowering that it was mentioned in the recap that the Reds can still win the series with a win tomorrow. I’m with you on being excited when Cueto is in the game, but he’s not the only player in the lineup that brings some excitement to this yawn inducing lineup. I won’t say his name, but his initials are Billy Hamilton. Hey,chin up, the Reds can still win the series. Go Reds!

  5. Jake

    Pitiful, I mean absolutely pitiful offense. I can only imagine how the pitchers feel, putting in great games day after day only to have a lackluster offense lose it for you. Homer did good tonight, but the offense wasn’t there to give him the W

    • Sparky

      It amazes me how these pitchers keep going out day after day giving us a chance to win by holding the other team under 4 runs and the offense doesn’t show up. Usually the lack of offense shows up in the pitching over time. Not with these guys. What a great group of hurlers we have. Go Reds.

  6. VaRedsFan

    Nope…because in your case he would have been used 2 innings before when the Marlins were threatening.

  7. VaRedsFan

    Furthermore, say Lecure comes in last night with the 3 run lead and gives up a double and a single like he did tonight, then the tying run is at the plate…can’t go to Chapman because he had to put fire out when the game was close….gas can added…ect. You make a decent case …on paper. But I suspect the guys using the closers as they do are doing it for a reason.

  8. George Mirones

    No line drives to the gaps, no line hugging doubles ringing out, no fly balls to the gaps driving in a run, few if any home runs capping a 5 run rally. Yeah folks winning and losing ugly is dull, boring, and frustrating. Needing “instant review” for a rally or to score one run is not what anyone remembers about the team that has won in the past. No question die-hard Reds fans (writers included) are demonstrating the frustration of winning and losing ugly. This is the team we have. Getting Phillps back will not cause a major change. Joey is better off being sent home till March. If a miracle occurs and the ugly Reds offense actually makes it into the play-offs, well, win or lose, it will still be ugly. This club has the month of August to go before we are back in the central division for the rest of the schedule. It will still be ugly but a few more wins might make it smell better.

  9. Dale Pearl

    Anybody out there still think that Zack Cozart’s benefits outweighs his liabilities? How can a guy get this bad with a stick?

    • CTRedsFan

      He’s been watching Paul Janish video!

    • Dale Pearl

      could be why he was picked up. He is on the 40 man roster right? could be they just want to give him a few games to adjust, but with our roster management who knows?

  10. Thegaffer

    Hamilton drove in the only run! He is actually the best reds hitter with runners on. But yes, he needed to make contact.

  11. VaRedsFan

    MLB avg for getting the run in from 3rd with less than 2 outs is 51%,
    Billy’s avg: 61%

  12. David B

    Squeeze with Hamilton in the 10th, would have been better choice…yeah-yeah hindsights 20/20…but the REDS have been Horrible in X-innings all season (3-7) to be exact…

  13. David B

    I’m thinking are in Trouble Might was 3 exits back…

  14. sezwhom

    So walk the base loaded so Chapman can face Stanton. That would be interesting.

  15. sezwhom

    I agree on Cozart. Three for his last 27. All singles. No HR, no Doubles, on Triples, no RBI and no Walks. Scored ONE run. Now hitting .219! Yes sir, that’s gettin’ it done.

    Just because I must: Hannahan: worthless!

    • Kurt Frost

      Yeah .219 sucks but 27 at bats is an infinitesimal sample size.

  16. Sparky

    It completely baffles me how he doesn’t get used in more high leverage situations. They have to see the same thing I see from my couch in Florida right? We needed at least one K against the lefty…..Come on Price, help me out here.

  17. Sparky

    I have to agree with your assessment of just how boring the Reds have become. I certainly can’t speak for others here, but its has become a little “Ho hum” in a bad way. That being said, I’ll be Ho Huming again today.

    • Tom Reed

      I feel the same way. I follow it on Gameday. It give me a chance to do other things during the game.

  18. George Mirones

    “DL’d if not right physically.”
    That would require a pro-active approach on the part of management (both field and executive). Somebody needs to look Jay in the eyes and find out what is wrong
    before any action is taken. Given that Reds ballplayers have a tendency to “play with pain” even if they are useless at the plate, it would be a mistake not to push the issue with Bruce given the abnormal results that are being displayed. Have the MRI, x-rays, or whatever to clear up any possible none skill issues that may exist so that a realistic approach and solution can be determined.

  19. Tom Reed

    In hindsight, it was the play. The manager did not have the foresight.

  20. RedsfanPa

    It certainly is exasperating to watch this team, especially lately. Good pitching wasted by a punchless lineup, and then to see the first person to pinch hit last night with runners on…..Hannahan…. it is hard to process the thinking behind that. Aside from the lack of offense and the carousel of first baseman, leading to several errors, we have the seemingly never ending TOOTBLANS. Slumps are a part of baseball, and every team has them. But when an entire team slumps…you have to wonder. At some point maybe Price has to review his coaching position choices (especially 3B).

    I realize Walt had a great run as GM of St. Louis, but there is a reason they moved on. While I appreciate some of the moves Walt has made, I really think new era of baseball has passed him by. I believe a more progressive, forward thinking GM could really help the lethargic state of this team.
    I personally haven’t been impressed with any of his bench constructions in recent years. I hope in the future we can do better than picking up ex Cardinals off the scrap heap, or settling for players like Hannahan.

    Like most of you I will be tuning in to cheer them on, and hoping to see a series win.
    Go Reds!

  21. RedsfanPa

    Agree on Navarro, would like to see Felix Perez get a shot in Cincy, think he has earned it.