The 41-38 Cincinnati Reds look to continue rolling with another 10:00pm game tonight against the 46-34 San Francisco Giants.

PROBABLE STARTERS
Giants starter Matt Cain has had three straight poor starts. He’s allowed 17 runs over 17 innings in these starts. Also, most Reds players have had success against Cain in the past.

BATTER

AB

H

2B

HR

OPS
Ryan Ludwick

22

8

1

3

1.263
Jay Bruce

13

6

2

0

1.204
Zack Cozart

7

2

1

1

1.143
Joey Votto

23

7

2

0

.799
Brandon Phillips

30

7

2

2

.733
Skip Schumaker

23

4

0

0

.414
Chris Heisey

5

0

0

0

.000
Devin Mesoraco

3

0

0

0

.000

Alfredo Simon continues to have an unexpectedly good season. Simon has thrown five straight quality starts with the team winning all five of those starts.

BULLPEN
I didn’t intend to post this table in every game thread, but with the Reds only using Aroldis Chapman each of the last couple of nights, I wanted to illustrate how well rested this EIGHT man bullpen is. With so many arms available, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Price with a quicker hook the next couple of games. You could also see the Reds send Diaz back to AAA for a bench bat.

Pitcher Total Pitches June 27 June 26 June 25 June 24 June 23
Chapman 39 9 10 20
LeCure 31 31
Broxton 25 11 14
Diaz 15 15
Hoover 11 11
Ondrusek 10 10
Contreras 0
Parra 0

Speaking of Chapman, Phil Rogers of MLB.com wrote about Chapman’s triumphant return from his horrific Spring Training injury:

“None of us could anticipate what it would be like to be in that situation and come back and rejoin the competition at this level of play,” Price said. “He’s done it without a hiccup. … There’s been no reluctance on his part to compete. That in and of itself is pretty special.”

STARTING LINEUP
Votto is back in the lineup tonight along with all the regular starting eight:

1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Devin Mesoraco (R) C
7. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
8. Zack Cozart (R) SS
9. Alfredo Simon (R) P

JAY BRUCE
Bruce’s extra base hit streak ended at 6 games last night, but he did pick up two singles, extended his hit streak to seven. MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon talked to Price and Bruce about his recent hot streak:

“He’s been terrific,” manager Bryan Price said. “When the season’s over, we’ll look up and be really pleased with what Jay’s accomplished and what type of season he’s had. It couldn’t come at a better time.”

“I’m feeling good. I feel like myself,” Bruce said. “That’s something that I’m looking to build on — I’m looking to be better than just myself. I’m taking steps toward that every single day. Every day it’s not going to jump out, but it’s something I try to build on. [You] take what they give you and continue to work and continue to expect the preparation to be there and live with the results.”


INTERNATIONAL SIGNING
By now you’ve heard of the newest Reds international player, Rasiel Iglesias. Iglesias signed yesterday to a seven year contract. In case you missed the details, Steve Mancuso wrote this excellent article on Redleg Nation yesterday.

THE CUBAN CANNON
No, I’m not referring to Iglesias, Chapman or any other Reds player. Oakland A’s outfielder Yoenis Cespedes has a cannon for an arm. He showed it off again yesterday by throwing out Giancarlo Stanton at home plate. It’s the third time this season he’s gunned down a runner trying to advance to third or home plate.

NL CENTRAL TRADERS
The Pittsburgh Pirates have made a move to improve their bullpen, swapping closers with the Los Angeles Angels. Pittsburgh sends Jason Grilli to Los Angeles and get Ernesto Frieri in return. Each team is hoping that a change of scenery will help their respective players.

AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
If you liked the previous Transformers movies, then you’ll enjoy Transformers 4. SPOILER ALERT: Giant fighting robots on the big screen. Summer popcorn movies don’t get much better than this!

CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
This has been a fun month, and I’m optimistic that the Reds will continue to win and start gaining ground on the NL Central foes. They look to win their 5th consecutive series tonight.

Discuss the game here. GO REDS!

519 Responses

  1. Kurt Frost

    I’m not going to complain about the lineup. I’m not going to complain about the lineup.

    • mwvohio

      I will. What on earth is BP doing ahead of Bruce and Mez? I feel like we’re being trolled at this point.

    • ToddAlmighty

      I will too. This is getting ridiculous. This month Bruce has a .948 OPS, Mesoraco has a .884 OPS. Heck, granted it’s in like half the AB of a full time player, so there’s some matchups happening, but Ludwick has a .902 OPS this month. BP’s at .724 OPS this month.

      BP needs to be batting 7th. He’s hitting .276/.307/.401 with 6 HR and 9 GDP. Does any other team pander to an ego to the detriment of the team this badly like the Reds?

      They have a guy who was one of the worst #3 hitters in baseball now being a hurt worst #4 hitter in baseball and they have a guy with possibly the best arm in all of baseball pitching 60 innings a year (only like 15 of them meaningful) because it’s what he wants.

      • yoitsscholzy

        At this point Joey batting 3 is probably not the best spot either. If we really are trying to maximize run creation then at this point I’d bat Joey 2, Frazier 3, Bruce/Meso in some combination 4/5. Joey is quite obviously not going to hit for the power that Frazier is, but his on base skills are still fantastic. That lineup could really give pitchers some fits.

  2. hof13

    My guess is that part has to do with history and the table up at the top. Ain’t defending it, just trying to explain it.

    • ToddAlmighty

      If it was history based decision, Bruce would be batting 4th. He has a 1.204 OPS against this pitcher compared to BP’s .733. It’s ego stroking and trying to keep him from getting hurt feelings.

  3. Steve Checkosky

    “I didn’t intend to post this table in every game thread,”

    Please do! I’d love to see this chart before each game. Would definitely provide some context to bullpen decisions.

    • ToddAlmighty

      Agreed. I like seeing who has pitched when, and how much recently. Gives you a good prep of who’s available.

    • Greg Dafler

      Thanks, guys. I actually got the idea from a Cubs blog (beyondthebleacher, I think) who puts this type of chart in the sidebar of their main page. I know we discussed it for RN on the old site layout, but I think there were some hurdles in the old design. Not sure if it would be easier to add to the new site layout.

      • mwvohio

        I think it’s fantastic, meant to say something the first night you did it but I think that was the first 10pm+ game and I had work so didn’t really post on that thread, then saw this comment and wanted to add onto it. It’s a great feature and if it’s not too much work for you to include I think it does a great service as a reference for who is and is not available that night out of the pen.

  4. Dale Pearl

    Well im bewildered by that lineup placement too but i wont complain. If we win if Bp Dps Votto out ofruns id vote to bat the guy eighth. Lets see if Price lineup gives Brandon a seven rbi night!!!

  5. Eric NYC

    The only reason I can imagine to bat BP ahead of Bruce and Mes is ego. There is no baseball rationale. I don’t think it makes that much difference, and if it keeps Brandon happy then fine, but they should admit it.

    • ToddAlmighty

      It does seem that’s the only reason. Of course that’d bring up a whole bunch of different questions. Like how can you be fine sitting down Votto when it makes him mad, and making Latos do another rehab start when it makes him mad, but bat BP 3rd or 4th so he doesn’t get mad?

      Maybe because Votto and Latos aren’t known for interrupting manager press sessions and spewing profanity that gets recorded and replayed worldwide? Just odd that they can take a tough stance with Votto and Latos, but not BP.

      • Eric NYC

        I’m actually fine if this is the reason. Part of coaching professional sports is dealing with egos. BP clearly has one and has turned it into a very productive professional career. If hurting his feelings means a drop in his production then it’s part of Price’s job to deal with that. It’s the same as any other deficiency in a guys game. Again – What difference does it really make batting a guy 4th instead of 6th? Nothing, basically. So keep them happy.

      • ToddAlmighty

        How does the team leader in GIDP spltting the team leader in OBP and the guy OPSing over 1 not make a difference?

        I’m fine with Price trying to keep BP productive by keeping him happy, but not if the way to do that is by taking the 7th best hitter on the team and making him the cleanup hitter, the second most important position in the lineup when it comes to an offense producing runs.

      • stealyourbase

        Get over the press incident already. The team is rolling now.

  6. mwvohio

    Wow, Lynn got crushed tonight versus the Dodgers.. 7-1 boys in blue in the 4th.

  7. Redgamer

    Greg,

    great post but shout out for Transformers, really?

  8. Chris

    Here at the game now. No Buster Posey in the lineup. HUGE advantage Reds. I’m at the game. Huge advantage Giants

  9. Redgamer

    Hamilton, that is ridiculous! No value to risk being off second with 2 outs!

  10. Sparky

    Its it me or do we see this same quote from him every year as he breaks out of his seasonal 2 month slump. LOL!

    “I’m feeling good. I feel like myself,” Bruce said. “That’s something that I’m looking to build on — I’m looking to be better than just myself. I’m taking steps toward that every single day. Every day it’s not going to jump out, but it’s something I try to build on. [You] take what they give you and continue to work and continue to expect the preparation to be there and live with the results.”

    • VaRedsFan

      LOL…good point…lets hope he stays out of it this time

  11. VaRedsFan

    not with 2 outs Billy…1 out i can see…and I’m one of the biggest Billyfan around

  12. hof13

    Billy don’t be a hero. Don’t be a fool with your running.

  13. BigRedSaguaro

    fine inning by Simon there. 3 outs on 8 pitches.

  14. yoitsscholzy

    Jay’s approach just looks better this year. He’s obviously more patient. He’s letting a lot more “bad” strikes go by and waiting for pitches he can do something with. I know he’s talked about that, but it really is noticeable. If he can keep this up I really think he could minimize the streaks.

    • Redgamer

      Agree, looks good now. But, he always gets cold sooner or later.

  15. VaRedsFan

    Looking at the replay, I’m not sure Billy went out of the baseline…it couldn’t have been more than 3 feet….Last night Harrison for Pitt went as much as 10 feet out and they called him safe

  16. sergeant2

    FYI- The Reds @ Giants game is being broadcast on the MLB television network. (regional coverage) Go Reds!

  17. hof13

    Simon has tons of movement on his pitches. He’s going to make a lot of money from someone next contract.

  18. mwvohio

    Tons of action on his breaking stuff early for Simon, could be a good sign.

  19. VaRedsFan

    84 87 and 70 were the speed of Simon’s pitches on crawford….he is quite the mechanic

  20. BigRedSaguaro

    that’s some surgical pitching

  21. BigRedSaguaro

    Reds love hitting in this park it seems

  22. Dale Pearl

    Billy doing his part. The guys batting right behind him need to get their acts together this night.

  23. Redgamer

    Billy hitting .283, and they are real hits. I assumed most of hits would be grounders, but they are solid.

  24. hof13

    If you look at the movement and the placement of the pitches, it’s like Cueto is on the mound.

  25. hof13

    This would be a nice time for Ludwick to park one in the seats

  26. Kurt Frost

    390 foot fly out. How many parks is that a home run? This park seems huge.

    • mwvohio

      It is, I’ve been told it’s really beautiful there too. Friend of mine is a Giant’s fan and sends me pictures from the games and they always look fantastic.

      • BigRedSaguaro

        I have been to AT&T Park, it is an awesome park but my desert self tends to freeze there

  27. Jeff Morris

    I know Hamilton is very very fast, but in all these taking chances of stealing 3rd base in many games this year, I hope he is not becoming a hot dog. There are times when its okay to remain at 2nd, especially if you have a hot hitter up for the Reds.

    • Redgamer

      Agree, thats coaching. Price quoted as saying he doesn,t want to take away his aggressiveness. That is odd, I do!

  28. docmike

    Man, 6 hits through four, and nothing to show for it. All singles, and no more than 2 in an inning. This could be a very frustrating night.

  29. mwvohio

    Votto’s defense has been sketchy at times the last couple years but I will say this.. he can make those dig and reach plays with the best of them. I’m always impressed by it day in and day out over there.

  30. VaRedsFan

    Cozart’s 1st error in 29 games didn’t cost us

  31. NoSweep#Reds2014

    oops, Zach Cozart made another error…. too bad

  32. sergeant2

    The fact that Simon is making pretty good contact when hitting is pretty impressive, considering he’s a pitcher.

  33. hof13

    The black hole has moved back to the 2 spot and swallowed Frazier so far. Hopefully SuperTodd can break out of it before the end of the game.

    • mwvohio

      Huh? He had 3 hits and a walk last night. He’s been on a real tear in that #2 slot going into tonight which is why he’s been there since Votto came back.

      • Kurt Frost

        What have you done for me lately?

      • hof13

        I just meant tonight. That’s why I said by the end of the game. I love having Todd batting 2nd.

  34. jcredlegs

    What a strange game. Reds with base runners every inning but have not scored. And what’s with all the pop-ups? For both teams.

  35. sergeant2

    How can Price not want to come out of the dugout to stall for time to see if asking for a replay review is worth a try on Hamilton being called out at 1st. Oh well. Go Reds!

    • Vicferrari

      Gotta keep him in there enough to rough him up for the big inning, has been the modus operandi on the trip

  36. jcredlegs

    And of course the Giants will score in the only inning they’ve had ANYTHING going. What a weird game.

    • docmike

      Yep. The Reds have outplayed the Giants so far, yet are behind on the scoreboard. Weird game.

  37. Jake

    We need singles with runners on base, not flyouts

  38. jcredlegs

    All right. The big boys are up. Let’s score some runs!

  39. VaRedsFan

    nice play by Todd…saved a run…He doesn’t often make that barehanded play

    • Vicferrari

      Should not be Cain should not throw a shutout, hopefully he can pull a Bailey now that he has got the lead. That totally is an acknowledge cheapshot made in jest

    • jcredlegs

      It would be a shame if we don’t score on Cain. He’s throwing slop tonight.

  40. hamiltonred

    JV seemed to have some discomfort with his right knee last AB

    • jcredlegs

      Oh he’s hurt. He won’t admit it though until he can’t move again.

  41. VaRedsFan

    Votto taking some very weird cuts. Head was flying out. He choked up 4 inches after the 1st pitch.

  42. 666wolverine

    Votto is clearly not right. The AS break cannot come soon enough for him.

      • 666wolverine

        If he was walking ppl would still cry about that as well.

    • docmike

      I have about resigned myself that he will never be the elite hitter ever again. It’s really unfortunate when a freak injury robs a player of his unique abilities.

      • 666wolverine

        I’ve come to that resignation as well.

  43. VaRedsFan

    Leonardo Dicario is umping tonight

  44. BigRedSaguaro

    BHam and Bruce can’t get out. Joey, Todd and DatDude can’t buy a hit

  45. docmike

    2-3-4 spots not doing much tonight.

  46. sergeant2

    Are you kidding me, he was out by a mile. The Hamilton play was much more deserving of a look at the replay than this waste of time.

    • renbutler

      The ump thought the foot was off the bag, because he was blocked out.

      He didn’t think the runner beat the throw.

    • sergeant2

      I like the the high pants/stirrups look much better than the uniform pants down to the ankles look. Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes. Go Reds!

      • VaRedsFan

        same here…but he looks like he has the long pants but he has them pulled up in a bunch over top of his kneecaps.

  47. 666wolverine

    I would move Votto and BP down to 5,6.

    • Dale Pearl

      I think so too. Well not sure what Price’s mindset is going to be if Votto is injured versus in a slump. Seems like lumping together Hamilton, Frazier, Bruce, and Mesoraco right now at least makes sense.

      • 666wolverine

        BP will never be moved down. Have to keep stroking his huge ego for some reason.!!

      • Mutaman

        I think your issues with BP involve other than his ego.

  48. jcredlegs

    Yep, definitely a weird game. Sandoval just laid off a pitch to take a walk.

  49. Vicferrari

    Simon pitching so good, shame you might have to pinch hit for him should someone get on, hopefully Zach hits a 3 run hR

    • Jake

      Where has our offense been? Cain is not that great of a pitcher

  50. BigRedSaguaro

    Simon got more hits than 2-3-4

  51. preacherj

    Cowboy talking about Cain throwing junk right now.

  52. BigRedSaguaro

    concerned about Luddy over there at first ?

  53. Jake

    Ludwick, leave the baserunning to Billy

  54. NoSweep#Reds14

    With Homer Bailey up tomorrow, Reds are guaranteed to extend 0 Sweep series wins in 2014.

    • Dale Pearl

      so basically what you are saying there is no way the Reds win tomorrow because you don’t like Bailey?

      • NoSweep#Reds14

        Nah, I like Reds as much as Mr. Billion$ Bailey.

  55. jcredlegs

    What in the world was that? Full moon out tonight?

    • Vicferrari

      Did him a favor, get him his 11th with a 5 spot in the 8th- been awhile since a 3 run homer, stay + Nation

  56. Chris

    I’m here at the game and the guy in front of me had his head in the way. Did Cozart swing and miss or take strike three?

      • docmike

        Gameday showed it on the outside corner

    • Logic

      We’re seriously trading an out from Simon for an out from Pena right now. I don’t believe it.

  57. Logic

    I don’t see any reason not to let Simon go all 9. It can only get worse if we pull him.

  58. BigRedSaguaro

    Sucks that he might have to come out with such a low pitch count and outpitching Cain.

  59. Jeff Morris

    That had to be a hit and run with Ludwick and Cozart? If so…Cozart has got to swing, I can’t imagine the slow Ludwick trying to pull a Hamilton and steal second?

  60. RedAlert

    Simon masterful – offense sucking wind thus far

  61. George Mirones

    These are the decisions the DH tales out of the mix, not saying I like the DH just what it eliminates.

    • Dale Pearl

      very true! I simply don’t get the whole idea behind having a DH for the pitcher, I really don’t. We assume that they are not good hitters or because they can pitch that they can’t hit at all? If it is to protect the pitcher that is just silly. As I have said before if any position deserves a DH is the catcher. That is some seriously hard stuff to do for 9 innings.

  62. preacherj

    You could fall asleep watching Ludwick run from first to second.

    • jcredlegs

      I’m pretty sure I did. Did I miss anything ?

  63. BigRedSaguaro

    Can’t lose a game where the only RBI came from a guy hitting .111. Not gonna happen.

    • preacherj

      Referencing Avg and RBI? No wonder you came to that conclusion. If you would have vectored the tanget of the WcR++ stat, and added the …..;…….

  64. RedAlert

    Alright – let’s go to work on that Giants pen !!!

  65. Logic

    We’re seriously trading an out from Simon for an out from Pena right now. I don’t believe it.

  66. Dale Pearl

    I would leave Simon in. He deserves to stay in this one until he is winning the game.

  67. BigRedSaguaro

    Simon could have struck out by his ownself

  68. docmike

    Brayan Pena all of a sudden remembered what the back of his baseball card read….

  69. sergeant2

    Sometimes even the best managers over manage, hopefully that will be the case with Bochy (excuse the spelling) tonight. Go Reds!

  70. preacherj

    You have to crank one to get it out there.

  71. BigRedSaguaro

    big hitters all 0’fering tonite

  72. RedAlert

    FraZier pounded that – ball ain’t going out tonight

  73. Jake

    Oh man that would’ve been a home run at GABP

  74. sergeant2

    Like Marty said “that’s a home run in Cincinnati”. Reds gotta keep on plugging away, this game ain’t over yet. C’mon Hoover shut em down. Go Reds!

  75. preacherj

    Just bailed out Sam there. Great play.

  76. preacherj

    For some reason I’m not as comfortable with our pitching as I was last inning.

  77. hof13

    Hopefully Mesoraco gets up in the 9th. He is 6-12 with 4 homeruns and a walk when he bats in the 9th inning.

  78. preacherj

    Dont run on Reds catchers. Just don’t.

  79. 666wolverine

    Maybe BP can deliver some B-Day magic???

  80. RedAlert

    Reds seem to lose 90% of challenges this year – unreal

    • preacherj

      Big time. That inning was heading toward disaster at amazing speed.

    • RedAlert

      Sure did – cause he wasn’t fooling anybody

  81. preacherj

    C’mon Joey. Let’s get it started.

  82. preacherj

    Hard to believe Simon is on the hook for this so far.

    • 666wolverine

      Simon doesn’t deserve an L!!!

  83. 666wolverine

    Votto has no foundation. Painful to watch.

  84. George Mirones

    Just a thought, if JV is hurting not putting him on the 15 DL a while back doesn’t look to good now.

  85. Jake

    Joey needs a few days off, or even put on the dl. Looks like his leg is bothering him

  86. preacherj

    I would love to see a pinch runner for Joey here, but then our first baseman would be….

  87. ChrisInVenice

    Really awkward swings for Votto.

  88. hof13

    Do you pinch run for Votto? If Pena hadn’t pinch hit already, I would.

  89. 666wolverine

    The reds injured player protocol is just mind boggling!!

  90. preacherj

    BP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  91. Jake

    Phillips! Now let’s bring in Chapman and close this game

    • docmike

      Can he? He has pitched 3 straight days.

    • tourniquette15

      I can’t complain about this lineup anymore. In Price I trust.

  92. VaRedsFan

    I guess the “couple” at the top of the game thread will have to wait another night

  93. preacherj

    And as a bonus, Joey didn’t have to bust it on the bases. Romo continues to have major issues holding leads.

  94. Mutaman

    Thank God for Brandon Phillip’s ego.

    • Kurt Frost

      Thanks God for Romo’s suckiness.

  95. Kurt Frost

    I don’t believe what I just saw!

    • ChrisInVenice

      Funny, I thought of that homer also. BP seemed to be ready for that exact pitch & hammered it.

  96. Dale Pearl

    dang! Price looks the genius once again. To heck with this lineup guessing he has the crystal ball going for him.

    • preacherj

      Yeah…..at least Simon can’t take a loss. That would have been even more undeserving.

  97. VaRedsFan

    Will this be the 3rd straight day for Chappy?

  98. jcredlegs

    That being said, I don’t think Chappy should pitch tonight. I would go with Broxton.

    • Vicferrari

      Just Checked in, with a fresh Broxton you got to question it, but it is a tough call not to use Chapman, about as good as you can expect considering the circumstances of the first 3 batters, now you are without him tomorrow is the biggest isssue possibly only 2 games in SD

  99. preacherj

    Mes tried to improve on those gaudy ninth inning numbers someone posted earlier.

  100. docmike

    Someone watching on tv, is it Big Brox warming up to come in?

    • preacherj

      Marty said when Brandon hit it, Brox sat down and Chapman kept throwing.

    • jcredlegs

      It’s Chappy. I think it should be Brox tonight.

      • docmike

        I agree, I would’ve let Brox finish up tonight. Hopefully my fears will be all for nought.

  101. preacherj

    It’s a shame we didn’t get Romo at GABP tonight.

    • VaRedsFan

      for sure…woulda been 3 dingers

    • tourniquette15

      Noticed that too. Now my reload button is a vestigial appendage to Chrome

  102. docmike

    Toughest part of the order coming up with Pence and Sandoval… at least Morse is out on a defensive substitution.

  103. tourniquette15

    GABP that’s 3 straight homers or 2 and a sure double off the wall. All of a sudden, the Reds are unstoppable at the plate. Wow, just…wow!

  104. preacherj

    Thanks for that swing Pence. Throw it in the dugout, maybe he’ll swing at that too.

  105. jcredlegs

    Hate to be negative right now but I just got a feeling that Chappy’s gonna blow it tonight

    • Qatar's Reds

      I have the same feeling. I really hope we are wrong

  106. RedAlert

    Pence just kills the reds – unreal

  107. VaRedsFan

    Why were they playing Pence to pull?

    • Chris

      Sitting here asking the same question.

    • jcredlegs

      Cause we got some pretty dumb smart guys in the dugout.

  108. Logic

    He’s really gonna blow this isn’t he

  109. jcredlegs

    All fastballs. Someone’s gonna take him deep.

  110. docmike

    15 pitches already and no outs recorded

  111. 666wolverine

    feels like playoff baseball……

  112. Kurt Frost

    Does he get Broxton in there and stand in the dugout and watch him crap the bed?

    • Kurt Frost

      That should be or stand in the dugout….

  113. jcredlegs

    Bryan Price has zero sense on how to manage a bullpen. None whatsoever. Got the wrong guy out there tonight.

  114. docmike

    Why on earth was Broxton not out there tonight?

    • Logic

      This is one I gotta place on Price’s shoulders. When has Chapman 4 days in a row ever ended well?

  115. Kurt Frost

    Well Price lost this one sticking to the CUP.

  116. RedAlert

    Ballgame _chapman gonna blow it – downright depressing – Dusty Price plated with fire and got burned

  117. jcredlegs

    Broxton has pitched as well or better than Chappy this year. Why in the hell is Broxton not out there when Chappy has pitched 3 straight days. I’m sorry but Bryan Price is an idiot.

  118. 666wolverine

    Cannot be a fastball only pitcher no matter how hard you throw.

  119. Logic

    With Bailey’s track record coming to the mound tomorrow, we just snatched a series split from the jaws of another win.

  120. GeauxReds

    Yep. Chappy should never pitch 4 straight. Stupid.

    • Vicferrari

      especially with a fresh Broxton, if it is all or nothing maybe, but we are not at the halfway point did not think it through, how long until Chapman is available when used 6 out of 7 days?

  121. RedAlert

    Bryan price bullpen follies continue

    • jcredlegs

      I cannot believe that moron is our manager. Great hire Walt.

  122. docmike

    I generally like Bryan Price as manager, but everyone in the world could see how this was going to end tonight, except for the one that mattered the most. No reason in the world to pitch Chapman four straight days.

    • jcredlegs

      I don’t like him. Never have never will. He’s in over his head.

  123. Jake

    Keep those ground balls coming so we can take this into extra innings, hate to see us lose this game in the 9th

  124. Qatar's Reds

    This is not a scientific or statistical observation but sometimes a walk can change the whole momentum of the game. That was a great at bat by Sandoval.

  125. ToddAlmighty

    Well, if you have a runner on third that’d win the game, you’d want him to be Pablo Sandoval, and if you had to get 3 outs in order to not lose the game, you’d want them to be guys with .201, .174, and .200….

  126. docmike

    Chapman has now thrown 30 pitches, on his fourth straight day of work.

    • jcredlegs

      Price won’t use him for 2 inning saves but he’ll pull this nonsense. Unbelievable.

  127. docmike

    Wow. Amazing that we got out of that.

  128. jcredlegs

    Well I’m glad he limited the damage to one but he should have never been out there to start with. Broxton is a weapon. Use him.

  129. vegastypo

    so the decision not to go to somebody else in the pen means we might empty the bullpen anyway … Grrr

  130. docmike

    Two great starting pitching performances, undone by two blown saves by the “closers”.

  131. RedAlert

    Man . Gotta give chapman props for getting out of that one – but he is now probably toast for the next 2 or 3 days – thanks Bryan

    • docmike

      Exactly. If they had just rested Chapman tonight, he would have been good to go tomorrow. Now, who knows?

    • Vicferrari

      Price blew it, but everyone of you negative Nancy’s would have been all over him had Broxton done the same thing, or it might have actually been worse, this is on the players for not scoring more runs, Chapman had 2 strikes on the first 2 batters and did not get it done, if he foolishly pitches around Posey, the Reds probably win, still have that chance.
      The real issue I have is the short sightedness, Chpaman/Broxton is a wash at best- but the the nest 3 or 4 games is takes a serious hit with Chapman’s limitations.

  132. Tae Yun

    simply bad managing the pen…Price has cost this team few wins to date….

  133. docmike

    If Panda hadn’t walked, I wonder if Pence would’ve scored on that double, or would we be celebrating right now?

  134. 666wolverine

    New game!! Let’s win this now!!!!

  135. hof13

    Give Chapman credit. That was some pitching there to keep it tied.

  136. VaRedsFan

    two check swings called balls threw him out of whack.

    4 in a row or not…he was constantly at 100-102…so NO …fatigue wasn’t a problem

    • jcredlegs

      Doesn’t matter. With Broxton fresh Chapman should never have been asked to pitch tonight.

    • hof13

      He had velocity but he was more wild with it and he had trouble throwing the slider for a strike. He never threw a changeup that I saw – not sure why.

  137. George Mirones

    Well, Well, we still have 6 pitchers left and the only change was Chris H for Ludwick in left. Lets play some more

  138. 666wolverine

    some real borderline calls that didn’t go his way.

  139. Jeff Morris

    I agree. Broxton should have been in there closing tonight. Chappy has thrown in 4 straight games. Bad move by Price. Broxton would have thrown strikes, and game would be over with the Reds winning.

    • RedAlert

      Alnost halfway thru the year and Price still can’t manage the pen effeciently

  140. 666wolverine

    our pen should be well rested. Good sac!!

  141. Logic

    For a numbers guy, Price sure seems to forget that the odds of scoring are greater with one on first and no outs than with one on second and one out.

  142. docmike

    If the Reds can score this inning, the Giants first three in the bottom of the inning are batting .158, .168, and .242. Let’s push one across!

  143. 666wolverine

    I’m happy we actually came back in the first place!!

  144. hof13

    With Sandoval back, would like to see Hamilton bunt down the 3rd base line. All he has to do is keep it fair.

      • hof13

        Why not. He bunts all the time. He should be good at it. I just figured his odds of getting on that way were better than swinging.

      • docmike

        If you bunt foul with 2 strikes, you’re out.

      • hof13

        Yes I know this. But he did it just last week (bunt with 2 strikes for a hit) and I still say his odds of getting a hit that way were better than getting a hit swinging. We’ll never know but just a feeling with the situation it could have been a really good play.

  145. docmike

    This guy sure does love the curve.

  146. sergeant2

    Its a tie game the Reds could still very well win this ball game with one swing of the bat.

  147. jcredlegs

    I’d be pitching around Frazier with one-legged Votto up next.

    • 666wolverine

      Votto is due!!! Brox let’s mow em down!!!

  148. jcredlegs

    Now Broxton is in. An inning too late.

  149. sergeant2

    Big Sequoia has got to shut em down, the Reds need another at bat to win this game.

    • RedAlert

      Dude never sets his feet to throw , never

  150. 666wolverine

    me too!!!! looked like a brain cramp in the making!!!

  151. docmike

    Shew… I don’t like seeing Pence up here in this situation.

    • 666wolverine

      Me too!!!! That dude is so scrappy but love a player like him on your team!!!

  152. 666wolverine

    Let’s do it again good guys!!!! B-Day magic x2????

  153. docmike

    Both teams have 3-4-5 up this inning.

    • sergeant2

      Sorry, gotta wait till after the All-Star break. If you think we need it now, wait till later in the season when the Reds are battling for a playoff berth.

  154. hof13

    Who pitches the bottom of the 11th for the Reds if the Reds score? do you bring back big Brox?

  155. 666wolverine

    Votto w a double!!!! Pinch run w Schumaker please!!!

  156. docmike

    Oh, and the Giants are out of pinch-hitters. We at least still have Schumaker and Santiago. Plus Leake if necessary.

  157. 666wolverine

    oh hell no!!! Offdrusuck better not sniff this game!!!

    • docmike

      What? Is he warming up? Brox should be good to go, he only threw 9 pitches last inning. And he hasn’t pitched in 3 days.

  158. Jake

    “Logan Ondrusek warming up in the bullpen”, that’s not what I want to hear

  159. 666wolverine

    If Price puts Offdrusuck in then I say he has money against the reds w a bookie!!!

  160. jcredlegs

    Good bunt by Bruce. Almost beat it out.

  161. Logic

    I dunno that I bunt Bruce there with the way he’s hitting.

    • docmike

      Me either. He has been our hottest hitter the last few games. I suppose maybe because it was a lefty?

      • Logic

        Historically I think Bruce does as well against lefties as righties.

  162. docmike

    Welp, so much for Big Brox coming back out for the bottom of the inning.

  163. jcredlegs

    Man I wish Bruce Bochy was our manager.

  164. RedAlert

    Ondrusuck better not even put his hand on the bullpen gate latch !!!!

    • 666wolverine

      Hahahahahaha!!!!! So Good!!!! +1

  165. 666wolverine

    Maybe Price got the crystal ball out and it says grand slam!

  166. docmike

    Now that they have changed pitchers, pinch-hit Schumaker for Santiago.

    • Vicferrari

      Where was Shumaker? Glad Cozart picked up santiago

  167. ChrisInVenice

    Votto was a dead duck at 3rd. He could barely run.

    • tourniquette15

      He’s definitely feeling that knee again…been wincing all night at bat…

  168. Vicferrari

    Gotta have the ERA’s catch up with the FIP

  169. tourniquette15

    What exactly do we want to do with Chappy as fans? I’m all for his choices tonight. Use him too often and nothing but grief, too little and nothing but grief. This is our favorite team guys, not the Cubs. He knows waaay more about pitching than most of the league, and definitely any of us. Chill out and cheer on your Redlegs!

    • docmike

      4 days in a row is too often for any bullpen pitcher.

      • tourniquette15

        Well, we wanted a manager that could make OTB calls. That wasn’t a Dusty call, that was a guy that made a gut instinct call. Didn’t work out, but it was different.

      • Vicferrari

        want to agree, but he blew it on this one in so much as the near future, hopefully they pull it out and all is good

    • Logic

      4 days in a row will never work. Pitch count aside, that’s 4 days in a row of warming up the arm and putting wear on it. We want him used, that doesn’t mean we’re idiots. We think he should be a starter. Failing that, he should be pitching more than one inning when he’s had rest, and pitching important innings that don’t involve the number 9.

      • tourniquette15

        I still defer to a former MLB pitching coach over a fan. No offense, but they gave him the keys over an outside choice for a reason. Plus, we do have an extra arm in the bullpen now.

      • Vicferrari

        Agree as I want to defend Price, especially now that they got the lead…but the shortsightedness of letting Broxton blow the lead in favor Chapman to me outweighs the fact Chapman only pitches maybe twice for the remiander of the road trip

  170. Pooter

    Get rid of Chappy! Five runs against Toronto and blowing the comeback. If he can’t close, why would he be a good starter?!

    • jcredlegs

      What? I hope you’re being sarcastic.

  171. RedAlert

    Another miscue by Price – just inexcusable !!!!!

    • docmike

      Yep. He absolutely should have gone with Schumaker there. Not the best night for the rookie manager.

      • Vicferrari

        I will take these errors, possibly gives a walk off 2 run HR or Bruce gives a GIDP you never know- look at the end result and look at what we have- I am sure Baker has this team in a much worse position

  172. 666wolverine

    Once again this garbage bench bites us!!!

  173. Logic

    Broxton could have done that. I could have done that.

  174. docmike

    Pathetic at-bat by Santiago. Why wasn’t Schumaker hitting instead?

  175. ChrisInVenice

    Giants gotta like not facing Bruce & Mes this inning

  176. preacherj

    I’m having posting issues here.

    • Vicferrari

      Can he get a pass for criticism until post ASB?

  177. preacherj

    Hey, it’s working again. Thought I was banned for the past half hour. Cozart!!!!!! Still a stupid call by Price in screwing up the pinch hitter.

    • hof13

      God was keeping you from temptation – of saying something you would regret.

      • preacherj

        Yeah, it was about the time Chapman imploded. I will count it as a blessing.

      • Vicferrari

        If that is an implosion I will take it

  178. Jake

    Cozart! For the love of god, Price, do not put Ondrusuck in next

  179. docmike

    YES!! Cozart pulls his manager’s butt out of the fire!

  180. BigRedSaguaro

    yes !!!! way to be big Heisey and Cozart

  181. jcredlegs

    Hi-C! The boys coming through tonight.

  182. preacherj

    Triple!!! Still not big enough for Ondrusek. Need at least another 7.

  183. RedAlert

    Yes – Price getting fortunate despite his managing ineptitude at times

  184. ChrisInVenice

    Pence’s awkward really was awkward there.

  185. sergeant2

    Maybe Price knows something about Broxton that the fans are not privy to, because from the outside looking in I see no good reason for taking the Big Sequoia out of the game.

    • docmike

      He had to pinch-hit for him in that situation (bases loaded, tie game). Smart by Bochy to force Price into the only logical move.

    • hof13

      Having visited Sequoia National Park about a week ago, I love that description of Broxton.

      • sergeant2

        I agree now. I lost track of the game and didn’t know there was a bases loaded situation.

      • Vicferrari

        Where were you during Santiago meltdown? Did you forget how to type Price is an idiot? Sarcasm by the way

  186. BigRedSaguaro

    runs are pouring in like crazy !

  187. jcredlegs

    Machi was living on borrowed time. It has caught up to him this series. Go Reds!

  188. tourniquette15

    A little faith goes a long way guys.

  189. RedAlert

    Billy getting it done at the Leadoff !!!! Dude gonna be a staple at the top of this order for a long time !!!

    • 666wolverine

      Sounds good too me!!!! He is so much fun to watch!!!

    • docmike

      I love Billy as our leadoff hitter.

  190. 666wolverine

    I feel better that JUMBO is up!!!

    • preacherj

      Indeed. Deliver us from Ondrusek.

      • tourniquette15

        Hopefully he’s the send-down/release for literally anyone. I’d take Pee-wee Herman over Ondruwalk

      • 666wolverine

        I’d rather have Charlie Brown!!!

    • tourniquette15

      My feed is behind, is he? Kinda figured he’d be the choice and couldn’t be happier

    • jcredlegs

      I’d rather see Contreras personally.

      • docmike

        I would think Brox would be available. Again, he hadn’t pitched since Wednesday, and he only threw 9 pitches tonight.

    • Vicferrari

      I was too bust typing post defending Price’s dumb decisions, not sure you are being sarcastic but Cozart of all batters baills him out of some ‘splaining; glad it worked out because I want to believe in Price- but some very curious decisions

  191. hof13

    That was a pretty good slider by Jumbo. Didn’t know he had one.

  192. preacherj

    5 runs with two outs. I can relate to the Giant’s fan pain at watching the bullpen “work”.

  193. Pooter

    IF we hold on we’ll gain another game on the WLB’s!

  194. docmike

    Gotta love the leadoff walk with a 5-run lead.

  195. jcredlegs

    Come on Jumbo. Throw strikes man.

  196. GeauxReds

    What is that bear paws thing the reds do when they hit a clutch single?

    • jcredlegs

      Jazz hands. It’s a team unity thing. Seems to be working.

  197. BigRedSaguaro

    wish our relievers could come in and get 3 simple outs

  198. hof13

    Can really hear the Reds fans in the crowd now. A couple of women reallllllly love Jumbo.

    • BigRedSaguaro

      might not understand exactly why he has that nickname

      • hof13

        “Jumbo” weighed 347 pounds last year. The Reds told him he needed to lose weight so he lost about 80 pounds over the winter.

  199. GeauxReds

    Any idea where the jazz hands came from??

  200. RedAlert

    Let’s keep Milton from appearing the rest of this road trip

    • Vicferrari

      Why? He is a AAAA pitcher at best, 30 year old rookies are great stories I put more emotional stock in Lecure occasionally hitting 90 MPH and being the set-up gut he was in 2013. I give Jumbo less of a chance at being an impact reliever than Brad Lesley

    • Vicferrari

      I would have conceded this one at inning one, after 8, with no out in the 9th, with 2 out in the 10th, resilience; team could have folded- pretty much did and still pulled it out despite some dumb decisions from our manager who I have high esteem for, shaping up to be a great road trip building some momentum heading into the ASB- too bad it doe snot exist

  201. Qatar's Reds

    A win for the Reds. Everything is great in the world again!!!!!!

  202. jcredlegs

    Good job Jumbo. The Reds pull one out of the hat! Price tried to give it away but the boys wouldn’t let him. Let’s get out the brooms tomorrow. Go Reds!

    • tourniquette15

      The fact that we’re talking brooms against the Giants gives me more confidence in Price than Dusty ever did. Price is a rookie too 🙂

      • Vicferrari

        There you go, some irrational rationality. Look a Joe Maddon first years in Tampa might make you feel like an idiot when you dissect Price’s in game strategy every time it does not work out.
        He has made some tough decisions all season long and for the most part they have worked out

      • tourniquette15

        Not to mention that most of the team has been in crutches till now. Personally, I think he’s going to be great. We’re still in the chase, and finally have a healthy-ish line-up. Plus, the Reds are finally a few games over .500. That in itself is a managerial miracle.

  203. RedAlert

    No AAA special tomorrow Price !! – go for the jugular

  204. Kurt Frost

    The jazz hands came from Schumacher.

    • George Mirones

      maybe “doubt” is harsh but drama was excellent!! and the results, well maybe the candle is getting brighter at the end of the hall.

      • tourniquette15

        Let’s just hope Votto’s doesn’t dim. He looked a little agitated on that walk, favoring a certain other knee. Hopefully it’s just a fatigue thing, but his 3rd AB looked rough talking to himself out of the box. Knee injuries nag for a while, I’ve had 3 personally and it’s at least a month-long process + rehab for us normal folks.

  205. jcredlegs

    IMO, Broxton is as deserving of an ASG selection as anyone.

  206. tourniquette15

    Anybody watch the Giants feed tonight? There was the LOUDEST woman in the background fan mic all night, and she did nothing but cheer on our Cincy Reds all night! The crowd would cheer like crazy, but every at bat her voice cut through and she called every single player by name on offense or defense. Kudos to her, she rocks! Even the Giants’ announcers noticed!

    • Vicferrari

      In my feeble male mind I imagine something much hotter than my base desires notice in front row Amy…Here is to the RED hot Reds fan keep it going honey

      • tourniquette15

        Vic, you’re always good for a late night laugh!

  207. sergeant2

    Its games like this that make me glad I live in the CST zone. 12:00 midnight is much better than 1:00 am if you have to get up early. Go Reds!

      • sergeant2

        Yep, I should have said 1:00am is better than 2:00am if you have to get up early. Central Standard Time, compared to Eastern Standard Time. Go Reds!

    • John Walsh

      Just moved to Chicago from DC and have thought the exact same thing several times.

    • tourniquette15

      2:15 here in Indy. Gotta work in the morning, but GO REDS!

      • Vicferrari

        Are you a Preacher? Call in sick

      • tourniquette15

        Nope, server at Chili’s. But I have a ’97 Grand Am so have to plan ahead!

  208. BigRedSaguaro

    i could hear that woman all the way in Tucson. Maybe her yelling caused the tremor everyone is blabbering about here.

    • tourniquette15

      I’ll take her over a drunken whoo! anyday.

  209. GeauxReds

    Where is the like button when I need it? +1

  210. GeauxReds

    2012 still hurts. after the Cards, my favorite team to beat is SF. Go Reds!