Let’s get the month of May over with, shall we!? Perhaps the Reds just need to turn the page on the 2014 calendar and move into June. If only it were that simple to solve all problems, huh?

You probably couldn’t ask for a more lopsided pitching matchup in tonight’s game in the Reds’ favor. Johnny Cueto takes his sterling 1.83 ERA and modest 4-4 record and puts it on the line against Brandon McCarthy’s lofty 4.87 ERA and poor 1-6 record. So based on that alone, the Reds win, right? Too bad they have to play the game though. I’ll also leave the comments about Mesoraco not in the lineup to you guys.

Watch the game and discuss it here! Go Reds!

1. Hamilton CF
2. Schumaker LF
3. Phillips 2B
4. Bruce RF
5. Frazier 3B
6. Pena C
7. Lutz 1B
8. Cozart SS
9. Johnny Cueto P

241 Responses

  1. ohiojimw

    Look at the Meso not starting situation this way, at least Price can choose the one spot in the whole game where he wants Meso to bat.

    Consider this my smiling sally sunflower contribution to the thread. ๐Ÿ™‚

  2. Dale Pearl

    Ludwick is either hurt or demoted to bench which in all honesty is all he is good for at this point

  3. sergeant2

    I have to believe that the only reason Mesoraco is not in the lineup is Cueto doesn’t want Mesoraco behind the plate when he (Cueto) pitches.

    • ToddAlmighty

      I have to believe Cueto wishes he had Mesoraco AT the plate when he (Cueto) pitches. Dude would love some run support, I am sure. Lol

    • Vicferrari

      I thought this was well known that Pena will be Cueto’s catcher. Mes cannot catch every game, so this is not a big deal until he can learn another position. Most likely he misses 3 AB and he gets to rest

      • AnnapolisHoosier

        It is a big deal when you can’t score runs and he’s one of the only guys swinging the bat or did you miss last night?

      • Vicferrari

        Did you miss the past 2 weeks as he went 4-35 before last night, he is a career .244 hitter that got off to a hot start and a sub-par catcher. He is a piece but is no Johnny Bench, if Cueto does not want to throw to him, I am fine with him getting time off and not get overworked. The other guys need to step-up.

  4. AnnapolisHoosier

    With the way this team scores runs you need to figure something out. Mesoroco has to play somewhere. C, 1B, LF

  5. Aaron Bradley

    Yea if Bernadina can play 1B then so can Meso… he is the hottest bat, I don’t see how you can sit him down. Really if he is gonna be babied like this then he should learn 1B and maybe LF too.

    • ToddAlmighty

      My thoughts exactly. If Bernadina can make his first appearance ever at 1B (Majors or Minors) then Mesoraco can play there if it means keeping the biggest power threat the entire team has. Dude just had two HRs and five RBI. Won the game with two swings of his bat. Need to find a way to get him in more.

      The Giants play Posey at first base when he doesn’t catch to keep his bat in the lineup. Reds need to find something similar to do with Mesoraco.

      • Vicferrari

        I prefer LF, did not see the game last night but I understood that Frazier’s throwing error could have been prevented by a decent 1B. How many balls are actually hit to left in a game and being on the road you potentially could get him at least 3 or 4 AB and pull him after 6.

      • VaRedsFan

        from 1968-1974 the least amount of of games johnny bench caught was 148

      • Vicferrari

        Finished before he was 33, Sparky was quoted as saying one of the biggest regrets was the way he overworked Bench.

      • jdx19

        Seems to me most catchers are basically washed up by 33 anyways.

  6. RedAlert

    Billy leads off the game with nothing again – hit the rewind button in a nightly basis –

    • jdx19

      Seems to me every time he pulls his bat back after showing bunt, it’s a strike.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Why Price won’t give the kid a couple of games off is puzzling.

    • VaRedsFan

      Not to be confused with Cy Colmenter

  7. charlottencredsfan

    Okay, hopefully we got that out of our system.

  8. Robert Meyer (@Vandy1Fan)

    I’m not sure what the Reds game plan at the plate is against mcCarthy but he only walks 1 batter a game. That tells he throws strikes. So what do the Reds do? Stand there and take strikes “right down Broadway”. They end put having to swing at a pitcher’s pitch and we see the result.

    • jdx19

      Yeah, you would think they’d do the research and say “Ok, let’s be aggressive against this guy b/c he pounds the zone.:” Then if he’s having an off night, adjust from there. Seems logical.

  9. jdx19

    Good hitters get more top-spin on ground balls? Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, your Reds broadcast team!

  10. VaRedsFan

    that last pitch is why Cueto’s BABIP is so low….not luck, as some have stated.

    • jdx19

      So what you’re telling me is he’s all off a sudden 33% better than his career norms?

      .184 this year, .276 career BABIP against.

    • BigRedMike

      Cueto’s career BABIP is in the same range as most pitchers. It is really good this year. Hope for no regression and a Great season is the outcome

  11. sergeant2

    Its reached the point where its just comical now, it doesn’t even bother now, just puts a smile on my face. No, not the Reds play, I’m talking about the negative comments. The Reds weren’t even out of the top of the first inning and bam! here come the negative comments. But hey its a comment thread and everybody is entitled to express their opinion, so have at it. Go Reds!

    • jdx19

      When the leadoff hitter gets out more than 70% of the time, hard not to be a bit negative. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      NICE PLAY BY LUTZ just then.

  12. Kyle

    McCarthy always throw strikes. He is one of the most sabermetrically-inclined players out there and knows he has to pitch to contact.

    I’m a huge fan of his, very bright and funny guy.

  13. jdx19

    The guy in the “I LIKE BIG LUTZ” t-shirt just made me laugh and suck some beer up to my nose. It buurns!

    That’s it funny stuff. I hope the back of the shirt says “…AND I CANNOT LIE.”

  14. ToddAlmighty

    Cueto looks like so long as the defense doesn’t give it away again, he’ll have a good game. I’d like to see more of 8 IP/0 ER Cueto. Needs to only have to get 3 outs per inning in order to go that deep though. Get a run or two behind him and lets win some games.

  15. SrRedFan

    Sometimes Frazier looks totally sick at the plate. No recognition on the low and away Yakker!

  16. jdx19

    That was a pretty discouraging report from Jim Day.

    Apparently, the manager of a professional athlete than can play catcher thinks his catcher can’t handle the least demanding defensive position on the field (LF).

    • ToddAlmighty

      His AB was 7 pitches. The other 8 ABs were 24.

  17. RedAlert

    Offense taking a vacation again tonight I see

    • RedAlert

      Against a 1-6 arm – Par for the course for this team

  18. ToddAlmighty

    Cueto with a 4 pitch strikeout where the bat never even comes off the guy’s shoulder. I like this Cueto a lot more than the frustrated Cueto.

  19. Robert Meyer (@Vandy1Fan)

    I think the Reds will make an attempt to get another bat. I don’t think they have a choice. i think we are seeing the beginning of the end of Ryan Ludwick.

    • ToddAlmighty

      I think last year was the beginning of the end. This would be the end of the end. Lol.. but yeah, I think they should get a bat as well, but it didn’t seem like Walt was too receptive to the idea in his interview a few days back. His plan was pretty much sit tight, hope people get healthy, hope people do better.

      They’re still not ready to try to fix the bullpen. No way the try to get another bat. So they should, but not sure I see it happening. Walt’s been napping since the Choo trade.

      • Eric the Red

        Yeah, Peรƒฦ’ร‚ยฑa who? And that Schumaker guy looks like a real bum as well. Thank godness Hanigan is still our starting catcher, so Mesoraco can catch once a week.

        Those moves don’t count. Jocketty should have signed Cano, and made the Marlins trade us Stanton for Ondrusek and some pine tar.


  20. sergeant2

    I love the way BHam puts teams in panic mode when he gets on base. Of course it helps when the batter following BHam takes a pitch or two. Schu is a professional and is smart enough to do just that. Yes! nice hit by Schu. Go Reds!

  21. hof13

    It’s really kind of understandable when Hamilton makes an out to lead off the game. He doesn’t know any of the pitchers and he isn’t able to watch the pitchers stuff with another batter. It drives me nuts when people get upset that he doesn’t get a hit first AB. At least wait until the game is over to see how he does before complaining.

    • jdx19

      He has no business hitting 1st until he learns how to get on base better than 28% of the time.

      Notice much less Cozart complaining this year? Because he doesn’t hit 2nd except once in a blue moon. If Hamilton were batting 7-9, no one would complain if he got out in his first at-bat.

      • hof13

        All I’m saying is, one AB doesnt tell the story of the day. He could still go 4 – 5. At least wait until he has 2 ABs. No one else did anything really the first time through the order. Im not saying it is ideal for Hamilton to lead off. I honestly expect him to make an out because he hasnt seen the pitcher before. That is a tough assignment for anyone.

  22. ToddAlmighty

    Ugly BP swing for strike two.

  23. Kurt Frost

    Thom was strangely silent while Welsh was talking about Bill James.

    • jdx19

      Toss in a little bad luck and I bet Jay has trouble falling asleep at night the last 10 days or so.

      • Kurt frost

        Good to see Bruce flailing wildly at pitches out of the strike zone with RISP. No walks.

  24. hof13

    Reds are getting lucky (I’ll take it) A lot of these hits have been just out of reach of the Arizona defenders.

    • jdx19

      Yep! But everyone get’s lucky from time to time! It’s nice when it is the Redlegs!

      • Robert Meyer (@Vandy1Fan)

        Lucky? So is it unlucky if you hit it right to a fielder?
        I don’t believe in luck. if that was the case then lucky = +1 and unlucky = -1. +1 -1 = 0 therefore luck doesn’t exist.

      • hof13

        That’s like saying negative and positive numbers don’t exist … only 0.

      • jdx19

        You may not understand it, but luck really means standard deviation in this regard. Historically speaking, a ground ball goes for a hit about 22% of the time. So, if you were to get 5 hits in a row on ground balls, you are “lucky” for those 5 at-bats.

        It all evens out in the end, but “luck” most definitely exists in small sample sizes.

      • docmike

        Uh yes, it is unlucky if you hit it right at a fielder. Why do you ask?

      • jdx19

        I think he’s more arguing the semantics of the word “luck” than the existence of variation in the rate that batted balls become hits.

      • Robert Meyer (@Vandy1Fan)

        How about it is good defensive positioning and has nothing to do with luck?
        If all the defenders stood on the foul line and a batter gets 30 hits in a row because there is no one to field the ball, is that just “luck”?
        I guess we can argue this forever but it isn’t gonna get us anywhere.

      • docmike

        Weak ground balls find the hole between infielders all the time. That is good luck, because it certainly isn’t a repeatable skill.

      • jdx19

        The examples you are giving are absolutely ridiculous.

        Just because you don’t understand the mathematics behind it doesn’t make it false.

        If a guy hits, .300, that means he has hit in 30% of his past ABs. Now, what if you look at a smaller sample size; say 1/2 of his past ABs. Well, what if he hit .250 in those ABs? Then obviously that means he hit .350 in the OTHER 1/2 of his past ABs. People use the word “luck” to describe whether or not a certain sample size is above the mean (positive standard deviation) or below the mean (negative standard deviation).

        “Luck” exists. It’s a fact. You can’t argue it.

    • SrRedFan

      More line drives equals more hits

      • jdx19

        Very true. Line drives become hits around 65-70% of the time.

        If you were to dig into the stats, that is what fueled Mesoraco’s hot start when he came off the DL the first time; an extremely high LD%.

      • docmike

        This is where the men get separated from the boys. Good hitters hit more line drives than bad hitters. Although they can’t control whether it goes right at a fielder or not, they can certainly control whether they make good contact or weak contact.

      • jdx19

        100% right, DOCMIKE.

        That’s why Votto’s career BABIP is much higher than the average hitter. He hits more line drives than an average hitter.

        The same is generally true for any hitter who can repeat hitting line drives with a higher-than-average rate.

  25. jdx19

    Well, kudos to Todd for keeping it alive that long.

    • Robert Meyer (@Vandy1Fan)

      He almost got “lucky”. Like winning the lottery. Instead, he was “unlucky” since there was a defender standing right where he hit the ball.

      • docmike

        Now you’re getting it. If his grounder had found a hole, that would be good luck.

  26. sergeant2

    After tree and a half its tree nuttin’ Reds. Not bad, not bad a-tall. Go Reds!

  27. Dale Pearl

    Reds are lookin pretty good today. Skip really has game he is actually showing that just maybe he should be in the starting lineup more often than not

  28. charlottencredsfan

    Been along time since JC lost a game when spoted a 5-run lead.

    • hof13

      Yes was going to say, he watched it a little too long at the very beginning …. and he’s not fast anymore.

  29. jdx19

    Makign the first out at 3rd…egads! But nonetheless, crushed by BP and it found a hole!

  30. Aaron Bradley

    Phillips such a horrible baserunning hotdog… first he admires the hit and doesn’t run out of the box, then he looks and looks over his shoulder while rounding second with stutter steps… then he wonders why he makes so many outs on the basepaths. LOW baseball intelligence when it comes to baserunning.

    • Vicferrari

      Needs to be called out on it, does not matter if you are up 5-0, inexcusable

    • jdx19

      Bingo. I learned in T-ball that i pick up the 3rd base coach when I’m about to round 2nd. No reason to look back yourself and slow you down. Pros forget that all the time.

  31. Aaron Bradley

    At least Phillips is smart in the field, I will give him that… his idiocy seems to be mostly on the basepaths.. I remember that one year at the all star game when he said something to the camera like: “that’s how we do it in Cincinnati” and it had something to do with his baserunning, but he ended up getting thrown out later in the game… the guy just can’t control himself. And if you are the kind of guy that likes to stretch the hit for an extra base, why wouldn’t you run hard right out of the box instead of admiring or measuring your hit? He still could have gotten that triple if he had been decisive and put his head down and ran hard going into 2nd… very bizarre.

    • sergeant2

      With Phillips ya gotta take the bad with the good. The good outweighs the bad, but frustrating to take the bad when the bad is so unnecessary. Go Reds!

  32. sergeant2

    A five run lead is great, especially with our ace on the mound. But I wouldn’t mind having a few more runs, you know, just in case. Go Reds!

  33. Dale Pearl

    Cueto isnt getting many ks today but he sure is getting them to hit a ton of ground balls…. Which is even better. Maybe we are watching a complete game today

  34. VaRedsFan

    Cueto seems more fidgety than usual…stretching and what not….I’m sure our crack medical staff is keeping a close eye on it.

  35. wildwestlv

    Okay, the D-Backs’ announcers believe that Cueto has injured himself again. Performance would suggest he hasn’t, but they won’t shut up about it. Has the FSO crew even mentioned it?

      • wildwestlv

        Left side. Lat, maybe. Back in the bases loaded AB. He has been stretching, a lot, since. Arizona feed showed Reds trainer meeting w/ him, in the dugout, right after.

  36. jdx19

    Hamilton has scored 22 of the 53 times he’s been on base, if my counting isn’t too horrible tonight.

    • jdx19

      Ricky Henderson right around 40% for his career. Billy’s numbers put him at 41.5% this year.

      Gotta learn to take a walk, young man!

      • sergeant2

        Young man is the key word. The young Jedi has much to learn he does. Go Reds!

      • VaRedsFan

        They have to throw him 4 balls for that to happen. Since a walk is a double, they will continue to throw him strikes

    • RunBillyRun

      Not a bad rookie season for a 23 year old ….. so far.

      • jdx19

        I think that figure just reinforces what everyone has been saying since last year; if he can get on base enough (right now he isn’t), he’ll be a very valuable major league player.

  37. VaRedsFan

    Cahill’s stuff is very much like LeCures

  38. jdx19

    The Get Well Soon Joey Votto Random Stat of the Night:

    Votto is 6th in the MLB in OBP (.410). You have to go all the day down the 29th place to find someone with a lower BABIP than Votto’s .290 (Big Bapi at .271)

  39. Aaron Bradley

    Hamilton def. changes the entire pace of the game when he gets on base. The pitcher pays a ton of attention to him and it seems to set up Schumaker nicely as he gets hittable fastballs plus ahead in the count when they pitch out or the pitcher misses the zone…

    As for Cueto, I really think his dreadlocks are his secret weapon… the way he whips his head around when he does the big spin, the dreads are flying in all directions, similiar to when they ask pitchers to tuck in their gold chains… but they can’t say anything about his hair…this might become a new trend amongst pitchers.

  40. sergeant2

    Marty: “And Cueto weaves his magic again” Couldn’t have said it better myself. Go Reds!

  41. VaRedsFan

    Bullpen roulette…who pitches the 8th/9th if Cueto goes 7 and its still 5-0?

      • preacherj

        I guess we are trying to turn it into a save opportunity.

  42. jdx19

    The Devin the Conqueror Random Stat of the Night:

    Even playing in only 26 games (roughly half the year), Mesoraco is the 12th most valuable offensive player in the entire league and the 14th most valuable player overall (including defense) in the NL.

    • VaRedsFan

      That’s pure luck…players aren’t allowed to perform exponentially better than what their baseball card says.

  43. preacherj

    Of course I want Devin in the lineup, but it sure is a nice feeling to put up crooked numbers without him.

  44. hof13

    Jay should have taken a rehab assignment – too late now though

    • sergeant2

      Yep. That’s why Marty and Kelch believe that Votto will definitely do a rehab assignment before returning to the team.

      • ToddAlmighty

        Rehab assignment? Pshaw. Slap him right back in the starting lineup as the cleanup hitter regardless of results and lets do this!

      • sergeant2

        Shirley you jest. Man, there sure is a lot of court jesters jesting. Tis funny though.

      • ToddAlmighty

        I’ll get clearance, Clarence, next time I jest.

  45. Vicferrari

    Just cannot give away outs especially when you want to admire your work, hard to shake that selfish image, sets a tone for the other guys as he often is the face of the franchise

  46. ToddAlmighty

    Dang, an extended 8 pitch AB is exactly not what Cueto needed if he wanted to go for it all.

  47. preacherj

    I am sooooo tired of hearing about Mayberry, picnic items, tomatoes, etc. Can we talk about baseball?

    • sergeant2

      Oh C’mon lighten up Francis, everybody loves maters. Reds are winning, Cueto is pitching lights out. Don’t worry, be happy. Go Reds!

  48. ToddAlmighty

    Looks like unless Cueto gets a real efficient 8th inning, he won’t get to go for the CGSO.

  49. ToddAlmighty

    …and there goes Cueto’s shutout. 7.1 IP, 2 ER… calling it now.

    • ToddAlmighty

      That’s not pessimism. That’s just complete lack of understanding on why they keep pushing bad bullpen pitchers out there.

      • ToddAlmighty

        Yeah, that was based off Parra continuing to pitch. Price yanked him off in a HURRY, thankfully.

  50. sergeant2

    Never a dull moment, just when you think the Reds have a slam dunk for the win something crazy happens. The Reds prolly still gonna get the win, but still, with this bullpen you just never know.

  51. preacherj

    Goldschmidt. Yes, change pitchers please.

    • wildwestlv

      Price was out there almost before Cozart caught the ball. Lol.

  52. sergeant2

    I would have left Parra in, but I like Broxton. Hopefully the DBacks will get themselves out. Go Reds!

    • preacherj

      Nah, Sarge, can’t agree with that one. Not to Goldschmidt with runners on.

    • ToddAlmighty

      Price already stalled Cueto’s season by putting horrible defenses in his previous two starts.

      It’s a team sport, but sometimes you have to care about your individual players too. Letting Cueto’s ERA blow up due to awful bullpen pitchers isn’t the way to keep your ace happy.

  53. ToddAlmighty

    They have 3 bullpen pitchers who can actually record outs. 4 if you think Hoover’s last 10 innings or so is proof of turning a corner.

    • ToddAlmighty

      Yeah, if they so happen to find themselves in a selling situation, I think Broxton has pitched himself into value for someone, regardless of the contract.

  54. charlottencredsfan

    Broxton does it again, what can you say?

    • vegastypo

      Based on his experiences out here in LA, I keep waiting for him to lose it, but he’s making me eat my past words — and I’m happy to do so.

  55. preacherj

    Huh. I don’t know if I’d be so quick to pull Brox.

  56. ToddAlmighty

    By those runners stranding, Cueto finds himself tied for the lead of NL ERA with Samardzija, who’s got one less start, 16 less innings, the same amount of walks, and 28 less Ks than Cueto.

  57. preacherj

    1.68 earnie for Cueto. Wow. Hoover in the ninth.

  58. Aaron Bradley

    LMFAO, anyone else see that Jack in the Box commercial: “there’s no such thing as a breakfast fairy!”

  59. hof13

    I kinda like Hoover coming in as long as he’s on a very short leash. Hes been good lately, good time to turn that into a regular habit.

  60. sergeant2

    JJ Hoover in the bottom of the 9th. That’s a new one on me, why is Hoover doing the closers role. I’d rather see Broxton or Lecure. Why Hoover?

  61. preacherj

    Hopefully Smarzdia…whatever,…..ERA keeps a droppin’ this week. He starts against the Brewers tomorrow.

    • VaRedsFan

      Here here…hopefully gets that W too

  62. VaRedsFan

    AJ Pollack fractured right hand…Too bad for him…he was raking.

  63. VaRedsFan

    Note to Reds: Don’t allow Hoover to pitch the 1st 6 weeks next year…Well done JJ/team!!!

  64. charlottencredsfan

    Didn’t major in math but by my count that’s 2 in a row.

    • preacherj

      If we win tomorrow, that’s three. That, is called a winning streak. It has happened.

  65. preacherj

    Alright, let’s go home with a winning west coast trip tomorrow. Friday was still one of the sorriest excuses for a MLB game I’ve EVER witnessed, but I owe some thanks to Porky Sarge for keeping the fires burning and encouragement flowing. Go Reds!

    • charlottencredsfan

      He held the fort while the rest of us were ducking for cover. Attaboy to the Sarge!

  66. hof13

    Recap is slow tonight (compared to recent history). Wonder if it will be Chad since a few of the editors are away.

    • vegastypo

      we’ll see who stayed awake … (or set their alarm, or said the heck with it, get it tomorrow!)

      • ohiojimw

        Probably one of those young rookie whippersnappers that hasn’t got the template or alternate ending routine down yet ๐Ÿ™‚

  67. 666wolverine

    Great win by the boys tonight!! Glad too see Cueto get some run support for a change!!! C’Mon boys let’s make it 3 in a row tomorrow for the 1st time this year I believe.

  68. sergeant2

    And this one belongs to the the Reds, boy do I love hearing Marty speak those words. Johnny Cueto is a man amongst boys when he is on his game, simply amazing. With Cueto’s pitching and the timely hits this was a Reds game that Reds fans could enjoy. More please. Another win tomorrow and its 3 outta 4 and a nice serving of crow for a few. Go Reds! Adios Amigos.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Put enough vinegar on it, I can get it down.

      Cueto is the man, amazing.

  69. 666wolverine

    Put ketchup on my crow please! Ketchup makes everything taste better!!