It hasn’t been the greatest of first months for the Reds, but the club will look to end it on a winning note tonight by beating the Cubs.  While a win doesn’t get the club back to .500, it does at least keep the Reds on pace with the rest of the division minus the hot-start Milwaukee Brewers.  The Reds will look to sweep (or mop or squeegee) the Cubs in this abbreviated 2-game series with a win tonight.

Discuss the game here Reds fans!  Mop the Cubs!

Lineup:
1. Hamilton CF
2. Votto 1B
3. Phillips 2B
4. Bruce RF
5. Frazier 3B
6. Ludwick LF
7. Pena C
8. Cozart SS
9. Cingrani P

227 Responses

  1. the next janish

    If Votto and Bruce can match Bham’s production from last night this should be an easy win. That’s for you Charlotte

  2. Sparky

    Just wondering how the weather is up there? and how long its gonna take these Reds to beat the Cubs.

  3. MRob

    Watch out B Ham starting to get comfy. Go Redlegss!

    • Sl;yMcBean

      Looking for Cingranny to get back on track

  4. preacherj

    Too bad we don’t play the Cubs more often. Looking forward to Cingrani having a Cueto-like performance tonight. Go Reds!

  5. Steve Mancuso

    Beautiful night. Smallish crowd. Noticeable number of stupid Cubs fans. Wind blowing out to right field.

    Go Reds!

    • ci3j

      Blowing out to RF?

      Votto and Bruce go yard. And maybe Billy “Hammerin'” Hamilton too!

  6. Sparky

    Would love to see some fireworks from the big 3 tonight. BP JV JB!

  7. PhoenixPhil

    Need to get a win versus the Cubs.

    I don’t see next month being easier:
    Milwaukee (4 games)
    Boston (2 games)
    Colorado
    San Diego
    Philly
    Washington
    WLB
    LA Dodgers
    Arizona

  8. ci3j

    That would have been a double off the wall if Choo had been playing.

  9. VaRedsFan

    Another side-saddled attempt by Votto to field a ground ball….sharply hit but should have been caught. Cost us a run.

  10. Steve Mancuso

    Nice controlled play by Pena.

  11. preacherj

    Pena has been the best bench pick up in a very long time.

  12. al

    If that bouncer is hit to short stop instead of 2B, Hamilton is safe. He needs to be trying to go to the left side more.

  13. ci3j

    Phillips just hit his patented double play ball.

    Luckily, Votto was already on 2nd.

  14. Steve Mancuso

    Bruce and Frazier bail out terrible AB by Phillips

    • mwvohio

      He just needs moved down. Put Todd in there or a catcher or someone who can do more than take 2 home run hacks then attempt to hit with 2 strikes. BP’s at bats have become almost formulaic in the last year and a month. If he gets hot again, sure move him up till he cools off but right now he’s just a lead weight in between Mr. Consistent and Bruce/Frazier/Ludwick.

  15. VaRedsFan

    Tied up…The humidor appears to be broken

  16. renbutler

    Even though he was safe, another 3B coaching error. He should have been out.

    Not as obvious as some of the others, but needlessly risky.

    Glad the Reds scored though. 🙂

    • PhoenixPhil

      With two outs, I’m ok with him going.

    • al

      Eh, with two outs I think you take that risk. Odds of them making a perfect relay play vs. odds of Ludwick getting a hit.

      • Vicferrari

        I think it is more a testament to not having faith in sound judgement, it is like bringing in Ondrusek in the 7th with a lead, it has worked the past 2 times but just because it worked does not make one feel it is the best.

  17. preacherj

    This is the type of game that could be settled by a TOOTBLAN, one way or another.

    • ci3j

      With these two teams?

      Cue the Benny Hill Theme music.

  18. al

    Thom is killing me. Brantley says that Phillips needs to get on an RBI run, since he’s only got 5 out of the 3rd spot in the lineup. Immediately, Thom chimes in and says Votto needs one too, since combined thy only have 15.

    How far out of your way do you have to go to bash Votto?

    • mwvohio

      I just tune it out as soon as RBI gets mentioned or BAVG with RISP. Complaining about your 2-hole hitters rbi total when the guys in front of him are Pitcher + Hamilton is beyond silly.

    • Vicferrari

      It is twice as good as 5 and BP has Votto getting on base in front of him, he has to produce

    • al

      I think 10 in a month is fine, given that players go up and down, yes. I also think it’s pretty disingenuous to lump two players together like that in cometary. Watch what I can do:

      Jay Bruce and Zack Cozart have only scored 20 runs. Jay Bruce needs to be scoring more runs.

      Devin Mesoraco and Billy Hamilton only have 4 home runs. Mesoraco needs to be hitting more home runs.

  19. mwvohio

    I like how TC’s breaking ball is looking early in this game. Wasn’t using it in the first inning.

  20. Steve Mancuso

    Jackson can’t get his off speed pitch over. = good night for reds hitters

  21. the next janish

    Can’t say I’m not a little disappointed that a Reds fan didn’t get a hand on that foul ball. If it was a Cubs fan, I’m sure they would have done it for us. 😉

  22. Vicferrari

    question: considering that Corky Miller was used last year, why not have him back-up Pena, especially when Tucker will not get much action and can benefit much more from getting seasoned playing everyday in AAA?

      • Vicferrari

        Not sure I understand, how is have a prospect riding the bench trying win when the veteran was good enough, helped them win significant games as a back-up last year, put up decent stats and as I understand is a positive influence in the clubhouse

      • al

        This is Corky’s career line: .193/.277/.306

        Tucker is a better hitter and a better catcher than Corky is, right now. Corky is a great guy and a good coach. He is not a good baseball player.

    • mwvohio

      Because Corky is a black hole in any lineup you insert him into. Tucker may not be.

    • CP (@nomoresalads)

      Tucker Barnhardt isn’t really considered a prospect and the Reds are trying to field the best team possible.

      Plus, Corky is another year older and he wasn’t good to begin with.

      • Vicferrari

        I think he is the top 10 on most list, but I suspect he may be a Hannigan type at best

    • Janet

      Corky Miller is not on the 40 man roster. They would have to remove someone from the 40-man and risk having another team nab them. They aren’t willing to risk losing anyone the way that they lost Pedro Beato.

      • Vicferrari

        Thank you, that actually makes sense. I guess I liked rooting for an old school guy and was impressed with his grit and .360 OBP last year and still fell a career .277 career OBP is probably better than what they could expect from the rookie. Corky knows the staff and Tucker could benefit from playing full-time above AA to develop into a Hanigan type catcher. I did not like anybody else’s answer

      • al

        Since you didn’t like my answer, I’ll give you some more of it. At AAA this year:

        Tucker: .250/ .327/ .455
        Corky: .250/ .270/ .306

    • AnnapolisHoosier

      Because Miller is one of the worst players to ever play Major League Baseball?

  23. VaRedsFan

    ~60 pitches thru 3. Glad to get the 2 outs with one pitch. Lets get that run (s) back.

  24. VaRedsFan

    Sign that fan up. 1-handed bare-handed snag while holding his son. line drive too

    • MGMcCoy

      I wonder if we could start him at SS? I’m sure he could hit better than Cozy is right now.

  25. mwvohio

    That fan catch was amazing. Do other networks bring fans on like that? I haven’t seen it but I don’t regularly watch anyone else, I just know that FSO does it at good times. I remember the fellow they brought up last year (the year before? I think last year) who caught 2 home run balls in the same game.

  26. Vicferrari

    Is Cingrani hurt? I know he is laboring, but he has not allowed a run past the 3rd inning all year if recall, he gets stronger?

  27. al

    Huh. Hard to understand pulling Cingrani with his spot due up next.

  28. Ed Lambert

    IMO, when Latos comes back, Cingrani needs to go to the pen. Not Simon. Cingrani wears out a bullpen .with too many short outings.

    • AnnapolisHoosier

      No way. You don’t put a guy that struggles with control in the bullpen. That makes zero sense.

  29. VaRedsFan

    Rea we sure that’s not Junior Griffey?

  30. Eric nyc

    Pulling Cingrani on less than 80 pitches in the 4th? He’s not sharp tonight, but he should have another inning in him. It’s just the Cubs.

  31. Eric nyc

    Over/Under on Cingrani’s career CG’s: 1.

    • AnnapolisHoosier

      Over. Way over. This is his second year for crying out loud. Still a very young pitcher with great stuff.

      • Eric nyc

        Pretty optimistic. Has he ever gone more than 7? He’s not erring better in the pitch count department. If anything he’s getting worse. I still don’t trust any of his secondary pitches. Apparently neither does his manager/ex-pitching coach.

      • AnnapolisHoosier

        24 career starts and this was probably his worst one. Relax.

      • AnnapolisHoosier

        Also, at this point in his career Baseball Reference says the pitcher he is most like is Whitey Ford. He ended up pretty good.

      • jdx19

        Well, Anapolis, you’re just guessing because he has “great stuff.” He’s literally done nothing (yet) that would suggest he’s the type of pitcher to throw CGs. They are pretty rare nowadays, Mr. Johnny Cueto notwithstanding.

      • jdx19

        The Whitey Ford comparison by BBR is just as useful as RBI for determining player worth.

    • jdx19

      Heh. This should make the recap quotes!

      • AnnapolisHoosier

        I didn’t say it determined the player’s worth. He’s gone seven innings I believe five times so it’s not a real big leap to say he can’t go 9. I didn’t say he was going to throw 10 complete games in a year. I said he would go way over 1 for his career. Not really a big leap.

  32. Eric nyc

    Boy if Castro and Rizzo start rounding into form the Cubs are going to be tough in a year or two.

  33. Eric nyc

    In what alternate universe is Christani a better option than Cingrani at 80 pitches? Is he hurt?

  34. jdx19

    Ahh, THATs what a good slide looks like.

  35. RedAlert

    How many more gas cans can the reds run out from their bullpen ?

  36. Eric nyc

    And Price sets himself up for another managerial loss…

    • mwvohio

      Pretty sure this loss is squarely on TC not having any control at all over his fastball today. I’m not entirely sure why he was pulled at 80 pitches but he wasn’t going to go past one more inning either way and the guys coming up that inning had their way with him in the first two times through the order. Seems like Price rolled the dice and lost but TC was the source of the problems that forced that dice roll.

      • Eric nyc

        So Price puts in his JV team to mop up in a tie game. Smart managing.

      • Vicferrari

        It does not justify taking out your starter when they have only given up 3 runs, ever (well maybe if the base are loaded in the 1st)- he has never given up a run past the 3rd…if he is not hurt really bad decision

  37. RedAlert

    Dude needs to be on the first bus to louisville –

  38. AnnapolisHoosier

    Terrible throw by Ludwick, should have had the guy out at the plate. Christiani is not good.

  39. doublenohitter

    Reds bullpen has just been awful. They need to seriously find some help.
    Where the heck is jumbo?

  40. enigma

    Why is Christiani in the game? Dusty would be getting blasted by now.

    • Eric nyc

      Oh there’s some Price blasting happening (raises hand)

      • enigma

        Lol soon as I sent my comment I seen yours

  41. Vicferrari

    Time in for some middle innings magic, besides Sat and Sat, this season’s teams been doing some nice work at putting runs on the board

  42. Eric nyc

    Christianity is barely a AAA reliever yet. I just don’t know what options we have.

  43. VaRedsFan

    The Reds should package up a DVD of the Cubs there and title it How to get 2 runs with the bases loaded and no outs.

  44. RedAlert

    Have no confidence in Ondrusek, Hoover , Para or Christiani – way way too many holes in this pen

  45. Tae Yun

    i feel like i am watching ground hog day. i keep seeing same terrible pitchers every time game is at critical stage. parra, christiani, etc.

    terrible inning by christiani… terrible…

    do we really have no BP? what changed so much from last year?

    i guess our goal is 500 baseball? what is Price trying to prove?

  46. Tae Yun

    Christiani, ondrusek don’t belong in MLB. Parra has been awful . hoover is batting practice pitching machine for this year at least…. we have a terrible bull pen, except lecure … but manager rarely uses him

  47. JRS1972

    Not really tracking with Price’s strategy here.

  48. AnnapolisHoosier

    I really don’t get letting Christiani bat. Have we waved the white flag in this game?

  49. Eric nyc

    The Hamilton Effect in reverse: keeping Rizzo so tight to the base he stole a hit from Votto. That’s why it will even out in the end unless Joey starts hitting more log balls in that spot.

    • VaRedsFan

      1st baseman holds EVERY runner on there…no matter Bham or not.

      • Eric nyc

        I know. Just heard that as an example of somehow opening up more of a gap for Votto. The idea being they’re at least leaning more towards the line. I’ve been on record as saying I think Hamiltons effect on Joeys ABs is overblown. Should have used the irony font.

  50. RedAlert

    It’s head scratching time almost each and every game with Price – every single game

    • enigma

      Price is a rookie manager and not the most ready one from what me and you both see.

  51. ProspectCincy

    Tony has had six starts this year. Great / Poor / Very Good / Poor / Very Good / Poor. I can appreciate he hates pitching against CHI, but didn’t look good out of the gate tonight.

    Perhaps Price saw something in Tony he didn’t like; physically or emotionally. Just have to wait and see (hopefully emotionally BTW).

    • enigma

      Christiani wasn’t nobody’s answer but it wasn’t like Cingrani could get anybody out, either.

  52. VaRedsFan

    Blond in row 3 directly behind home plat….hubba hubba

    • Vicferrari

      Just curious how many 3 ball at bats has he had all season. I know that AB is more than his 4th as he has walked 3 times.

  53. Eric nyc

    Sweet looking hit from BP! Patient at bat and it paid off! And wouldn’t have scored without Billys steal.

  54. VaRedsFan

    So you don’t think Billy scores from 2nd w/ 2 outs? 100% in every lifetime he scores from 2nd

  55. jdx19

    Do you guys think guys like Bruce, Frazier, and BP decide to swing at pitchers before they are thrown? I know we joke about it from time to time, but I’m starting to think it’s the case.

    • enigma

      Been thinking this is about Bruce and BP for awhile. Strikeouts are strikeouts, but some of Bruce’s (and Phillips’) are mind-blowing. Like the one we just saw..

  56. RedAlert

    Bruce needs a mental health day off – in one of his patented slumps

    • jdx19

      There’s a difference this time; he’s walking. Walking is slump-proof.

      That’s how Votto, even during a slump, maintains like a .380-.390 OBP or something. Bruce is doing it at .340-.350, so that’s nice. Once he starts mashing, I think we’ll see a better slash line for Bruce than he’s ever had.

  57. RedAlert

    Here we go with the extended pitches with Christiani – game bout to get out of reach

  58. VaRedsFan

    With Christiani, Ondrusek, Hoover, and now maybe Parra all equally bad, why not use a PH to lead off last inning? Insert one of them here in the 6th.

    • Vicferrari

      I know it worked but it seems in poor judgement, I guess Hoover and Parra are fresh, chance for them to get back to 2013 form because we will not see Lecure in the 7th maybe not at all no matter what happens

  59. BigRedMike

    Got out of that inning. Reds will come back and win this. Cubs will find a way to lose

  60. enigma

    Bryan Price living dangerous w/Christiani

  61. Vicferrari

    Hopefully letting Jackson bat comes back to haunt them

  62. Eric nyc

    Phew. That was a dangerous inning. Let’s punish them for it now.

  63. Vicferrari

    Do I have this right? only non bases empty homers in over 2 weeks by Leake and Cozart, they are due

  64. preacherj

    Why is Barnhardt in? I missed what happened.

      • preacherj

        Thanks, With a double switch I think I would rather have JJ behind the dish and Tucker on the mound, but I hope this works.

  65. doublenohitter

    Price continues to pitch his worst pitchers when the game is on the line and i continue to try and figure out why.

    • Vicferrari

      Who should you have in there, something must be wrong with Marshall

  66. RedAlert

    A clean 1,23 inning was just too much to ask for

  67. Redgoggles

    I’ll give Price this….he does not hold back the backup catcher for the late game what-if scenarios that Dusty always gave. I think that is a positive.

    • jdx19

      I do, too. The maybe one time per season your catcher gets hurt late in the game can be taken care of by an emergency player.

      Being able to use another bench player in the other 161 games; priceless! Or Priceful, perhaps.

  68. preacherj

    Barney might be a gold glover, but he ain’t no silver slugger. He gets pinch hit for more than just about any position player I’ve seen.

  69. preacherj

    Cubs have 4 bench players. All leftys, per Kelch.

  70. preacherj

    I knew Hoover could do it………

  71. RedAlert

    For all his pitching accolades , Price in NOT GOOD at managing this bullpen

    • Redgoggles

      I would arrange your sentence a bit……..’Price is managing this NOT GOOD bullpen.’

  72. RedAlert

    Going for the Hamilrun here for the tie

  73. preacherj

    Billy has a much better chance at something in the infield with Valbuena taking Barney’s place. That’s a serious downgrade.

  74. RedAlert

    Well guess Cozart could actually beat him to it

  75. Vicferrari

    I know Price gets a lot of flack for his bullpen mgmt, but I suspect he manages them differently in pennant race than he does in April. I suspect he knows now that he cannot rely on Trevor Bell, but he has to get something from Hoover and Parra and it hurts if Marshall cannot be your go to guy late in games, 7th or 8th, then you must use Lecure and avoid wearing him out. I do not think Broxton has proven he can be stretched out for a 2 inning save like maybe Chapman could have.

  76. CP (@nomoresalads)

    So, assuming Cingrani had to come out, I’m wondering who you guys would have wanted to see in the 5th inning?

    I’m not a fan of Christiani or Ondrusek, but the bullpen had to cover 5 innings, and Lecure, Marshall, and Broxton are really only good for 3.

    • Vicferrari

      Point I was trying to make in so many words

  77. RedAlert

    Wasted sac attempt – Cozart should have already been on 2nd base!

  78. preacherj

    Interesting bullpen strategy: These last mid inning pitching changes were done to our switch hitters.

  79. RedAlert

    Leadoff single 7th inning and runner never moves – welcome to your 2014 Cincinnati Reds- offensive ineptitude at its finest

  80. VaRedsFan

    The rainout was a killer….not only does Bailey not get the Cubs (his only good start), but he gets the Brewers who historically beat him up.

    • TomatoTovotto

      True, but you shouldn’t have want one of your three best pitchers face the bottom feeders in lieu of the division leader. If things were “right,” it should be great that Bailey’s start got pushed back to the much more important series, but I agree that it doesn’t quite feel that way…

  81. preacherj

    Nice pitch. That’s the JJ I remember.

    • Vicferrari

      Hasn’t the knock been him not getting the curve over, I believe that’s 2 strike 3 calls with the curve

  82. VaRedsFan

    2 solid from Hoover….the breaking pitch was back in form

  83. TomatoTovotto

    Even if we lose, at least JJ looks like he’s found his head from his asss.

  84. Vicferrari

    I somewhat mentioned it earlier hopefully to reverse jinx it, since Joey’s 9th inning 2 wed afternoon ago, Cozart has hit the only HR with runners on in 2 weeks, time for another
    even out these 1 run games

  85. Pete Rose

    So much talk and concern about Hamilton that we forgot that the Reds big boys are doing very little. Pena hits a HR tonight with Hamilton last night. Where’s Votto, Bruce Phillips and Frazier?

  86. Pete Rose

    Votto makes the final out last inning and BP/Bruce simply not producing much at all. Definitely need a healthy Mez but it beginning to look like a lot more than that.

  87. RedAlert

    Reds going down with a whimper – just as well be a 10 run lead

  88. preacherj

    Great AB’s from our 3-4-5 hitters……..

    • Vicferrari

      So glad he was not used Sunday to face Freeman, so he could be used here

  89. preacherj

    Castro’s hurt going into second.

  90. VaRedsFan

    Marshall doing his Parra impression

  91. RedAlert

    This bullpen is just BRUTAL- no other word for it

  92. VaRedsFan

    I don’t understand…you mean you don’t HAVE to run home from 3rd w/ no outs?

  93. L.A. Red

    Reds have one position player with a batting average above .300. That’s not going to get it done on a nightly basis.

  94. Ed Lambert

    Barnhart is probably the only Reds catcher that would have successfully blocked the pitch in the dirt. Mesaraco tends to just turn his head,

  95. RedAlert

    Throwing BP now- why take him out now – damage done

  96. preacherj

    To answer my own earlier question: Yea, Sean Marshall pitches in the Reds bullpen….

  97. Ed Lambert

    IMO, Walt Jocketty will go down in Reds history as the next to worst general amanger in Reds history. Just above Dick Wagner.

    • Pete Rose

      Ed, you may be close – as he has sufficiently emptied the minors of any viable talent and has left this team very little hope. Without checking, who is the Red hitting .300 – didn’t realize the Reds had one.

      Well folks in the midwest, It’s going to be one long hot, sticky summer. Going to start turning my attention to the hometown Rockies as they have turned out to be quite the pleasant surprise. And unlike the Reds, they sure can hit. They need pitching though, if the pitchers show up and can keep games close, look out.

      • Pete Rose

        Sorry, forgot about the catching position. Oh well ….

  98. jcredlegs

    Just not a very good baseball team. Our “accountability” manager better start holding some folks accountable.

    • Tae Yun

      Price needs to hold himself accountable. he’s an iffy manager. his bp management does not make sense. he uses Ond, Hoover, Parra too much

  99. hoosierdad

    At least it’s not another 1 run loss……Pathetic

  100. RedAlert

    The reds r just a mediocre team at this point – boy when it rains it pours – nice effort from Votto – just like ether has settled over this entire team

    • Pete Rose

      Been saying for a while that the Reds are simply a .500 team – since last May (of 2013).

  101. hoosierdad

    Anyone wish the REDS still had Travis Wood instead of Sean Marshall? Hated the trade when it happened. Hate it even worse since it happened.

    • Pete Rose

      Absolutely – Marshall is another player the Reds traded for that has turned out on the losing end. And lucky the Reds missed Wood in both series – as he’s very tough.

  102. jcredlegs

    This team is in trouble and I’m tired of paying attention. Best of luck against the Brewers but I’ve got better things to do than watch this mess.

  103. preacherj

    Only two innings out of nine have the Cubs been retired in order.

  104. AD

    Can someone please tell me why Walt and Company didn’t go out and get anyone?!?! I mean this team needs help, SS, LF…. a consistent leadoff…I realize bull pen injuries, but the bull pen that is healthy is an absolute disaster … yet nothing was done over the winter save Skip Schumaker, whom I doubt is the answer.

    So I ask again, why? Nothing available? Too pricey?

    • Vicferrari

      Thank goodness they got BP an d HOmer locked up, sorry feeling like a jerk

  105. RedAlert

    Cincinnati fire station just got an emergency call from Great American Ballpark – bullpen up in flames

  106. preacherj

    Here comes Ondrusek. Hey, somebody get the guy in section 17 in the family section. He shouldn’t be too drunk. See the guy in the Todd Coffey jersey? Hey, it is Todd Coffey. Have him sprint down the aisle and scale that left field wall. What the heck?

    • mikemartz

      While we’re at it why not get the guy who made the one handed grab of Votto’s line drive foul to try out, we could use the defense. Maybe Votto should hold a kid in his left hand and try fielding without his glove, couldn’t be much worse.

  107. RedAlert

    Ondrusek – lol !!! Can we call up Corky to the bullpen?

  108. hoosierdad

    Cubs with 13 hits, 6 walks, and REDS commit 2 errors. REDS not going to win many games that way. Oh yeah, they HAVEN’T won too many games this year.

  109. preacherj

    On the bright side, this game doesn’t appear like it’s going to negatively affect our one run loss record.

  110. RedAlert

    Wow – replay is absolutely worthless waste of time – runner was safe

  111. preacherj

    Seriously, how was that call not overturned? I guess it’s still the Cubs. They should really still be batting.

  112. preacherj

    Look at this guys numbers. How is he in the Cubs bullpen?

  113. doublenohitter

    I’ve turned it off. i don’t think I will watch the Brewers series either. Won’t be much of a series.

    Reds likely to by 10 games out by monday.

    • Pete Rose

      Called it 2 weeks ago. Very, very sad indeed.

    • L.A. Red

      That’s an understatement. I’ve counted at least 5 hits he should have had in the last two weeks alone. Fielders, drop balls, check the time on their watch, dust their jersey off then throw Ludwick out at 1st base.

  114. RedAlert

    Disappointing effort all around – agree that Bryan Price better revisit the accountability issue with this team (including himself)

  115. preacherj

    I feel a Milton appearance in the making.

  116. Vicferrari

    I feel like this could have been a game where there were lots of positives, 2 hits by Cozart, clutch 2 out hits by BP & Frazier, Hoover stepping up, the continuing solid games from Pena- but it feels like this season is spiralling into 2011
    Any body got something to keep me hopeful?