Looks like the Reds got permission from MLB to honor Pete Rose on the 25th anniversary of his record-breaking 4,192nd hit. This would be the first time Rose will be permitted to be present for on-field ceremonies in Cincinnati since he was banned in 1989.

One problem: the Reds are going to have to hold the ceremony on September 12, which is one day after the 25th anniversary. Evidently, Rose can’t make it on September 11 because he has a prior commitment…

…wait for it…

…at Hollywood Casino.

23 Responses

  1. Bill Lack

    There has been a lot of pub about this…but I haven’t read anything that says whether the Reds checked with Rose or whether Pete already had made this commitment to Hollywood Casino before the Reds asked him about it….I think the details would tell a lot about this. If Rose already made a commitment, THEN the Reds came to him…he should keep his commitment. He gave his word to Hollywood Casino (and probably signed a contract).

  2. Chad Dotson

    @Bill Lack: I don’t have a problem with him keeping his commitment. It’s just funny that his commitment was to a casino. Classic Pete.

  3. Steve Price

    I’ve heard from others that Pete spends most of his time signing autographs at casinos. I guess that’s a match on personality traits.

    Some may not remember this, but baseball “banned” Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle from MLB functions for a time as they worked as greeters for casinos. Baseball later relented.

  4. WM RedsFan

    I agree with with keeping commitments; but geez, shouldn’t he realize by now that he should stay away from anything that hints of gambling?

    But what do you expect from a guy that wanted me to give him $5.00 bucks to sign my baseball when I was 10 years old prior to a game. Fortunately, Ken Griffey, Sr. overheard this interaction and he stepped up and said, “Son, I would love to sign your ball and thank you for coming out to the game today.” That was such a learning moment particularly for a 10 year boy back in the 70’s.

  5. Mark in cc.

    September 12 is opening day for the NFL, Bengals/Pats. I am not sure Pete will want to be that far away from a bank of TVs on that day.

  6. Furniture City Red

    I grew up idolizing Pete Rose. As a teenager I just couldn’t understand why Giamatti banned Rose…After all – Rose said he never bet on Reds games. He stuck to that LIE for 15 years until finally ‘coming clean’ in 2004. Now we find out he corked his bats also so he could slap those singles over the second baseman’s head. Whatever – I’m done with him. He’s a liar and a cheat…He used to be one of my hero’s.

  7. preach

    Thanks to the voters Pete will no longer have to leave Ohio to keep such committments in the future. He could catch a game and not miss, ah, work…..

  8. Python Curtus

    @Steve Price:
    There had always been a great deal of hypocrisy surrounding the Pete Rose gambling issue, not the least of wich had been Mantle and Mays being let back in after they were banned.
    Babe Ruth hung around with gamblers and a wide variety of lowlifes. While I doubt Ruth himself ever did anything to make his game questionable, can anyone really believe there wasn’t someone in his life trying to profit from hanging around with him?
    Joe DiMaggio, if he wasn’t an actual mobster himself, was very close with mobsters. I sincerely doubt that his 56 game hitting streak is legit. I believe there could have been a couple of incidents where some of DiMaggio’s buddies approached some no-name pitcher and told him he was going to give up a hit at some point in the game or else he was never going to use his arm again. It’s a suspicious coincidence that he has a 56 game streak…in 1956.
    Whatever Rose got himself into after he stopped playing, what he did on the field was 100% legit.

    It should also be mentioned, baseball has been further hypocritical as far as addiction policies. Steve Howe, Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry—-they all multiple chances after years of cocaine use. The criminals in the Pittsburgh drug ring, including Dave Parker, all got their suspensions dropped without having to serve a day. Mark “King-of-all-‘HOLES” McGwire oozes back into baseball with only passing scrutiny.
    Why isn’t Rose’s gambling problem viewed with such mercy? Rose finally got it. If you read his book, he explained how he finally realized his problem and it is very logical. He needed to win at all costs. That was the way he played. When he couldn’t play anymore, that pent up impulse was transferred to gambling. He always bet on the horses. He moved to college sports, then football, then basket ball, until finally he thought he had a sure thing with what he knew all about: baseball. He needed to win. He could win at baseball.
    That other super’hole, John Dowd, declared that if he were given more time, he could prove that Rose bet against the Reds. This smacks of obsession—-when he had already made up his mind what he was going to find, he would look for nothing else.
    But to bet against a team he was managing went against evrything Rose was obsessed with. He wanted to win the game. He was going to manage to win the game. To not do that would have been contradictory

    • jdm00

      @Steve Price:I sincerely doubt that his 56 game hitting streak is legit. I believe there could have been a couple of incidents where some of DiMaggio’s buddies approached some no-name pitcher and told him he was going to give up a hit at some point in the game or else he was never going to use his arm again. It’s a suspicious coincidence that he has a 56 game streak…in 1956.

      DiMaggio’s 56-game hitting streak was in 1941, the same year that Ted Williams hit .406. DiMaggio retired in 1951.

  9. Python Curtus

    @Furniture City Red:
    Don’t believe the corked bat story for a minute. Those idiots trying to sell it admitted they can’t account for the history of the bat. They had gotten it form second and third-hand sources. They admitted this. Their story has been dismissed by the majority of sports writers and newsmen—-even by those who would have liked it to be true

  10. RiverCity Redleg

    @Python Curtus: i agree totally about the hypocracy of baseball. Further, I don’t understand what is gambling has to do with whether he was a HoF player or not. His actions after his playing days may or may not warrant him being banned, but it most definitely doesn’t change what he did on the field as a player. He earned his way into the Hall and it will be a shame if he’s not allowed in before he dies.

  11. Python Curtus

    @jdm00:
    You’re right. Where the hell did I get 1956?

    But I still stand by the rigged game theory

  12. Gary Clements

    For folks who have been around for a long time & actually know people who know Pete, it should come as no surprise that he really is mentally challenged.

    Pete was so bad in school that he was almost deemed “short bus” material.

    Pete just isn’t smart. Major League Baseball should treat him like he is handicapped because he essentially is.

    He is just not a smart man. He is Forrest Gump without the integrity.

  13. Furniture City Red

    @Python, @River City – Thanks. I didn’t realize that about the corked bat story. I first heard of the story on this site and hadn’t seen anything further on it.

    For the record I think Pete is a HOF’er…I’m just really pissed at him for his 15 year long lie. Really wish he’d have came clean right at the start. Chances are if he had he’d be back in baseball by now instead of working for appearance fee’s at casino’s and card shows.

  14. vermilion red

    I was a huge Pete fan, as were many, if not most, of you. What is most ironic about the entire thing, as far as I’m concerned, is that Pete has equal parts treated the game with incredible integrity (as a player) and without a hint of integrity (since). In my mind, there is only one thing Pete could do to dissolve his case as a Hall of Famer. Unfortunately, he engaged in just exactly that activity. He will never be in the Hall of Fame. We witnessed Joe Jackson, Round Two.
    And who cares about the bat? That is like a death row inmate arguing about a misdemeanor theft charge.

  15. Python Curtus

    @WM RedsFan:
    This reminds me of when I was 13 or so and went to a card show in the Akron area. Bob Feller was signing autographs there. We had to buy this 8×10 for him to sign for $10 I think it was.
    Anyways, there was this little kid in the line up ahead of me, maybe 6 years old and he has a scrap of paper from a notebook or something. He offered it up to Feller for him to sign and Feller snaps at him, “I don’t sign pieces of paper!” He was surprisingly nasty about it and sent the kid on his way.
    At least if you give Rose his money, he’ll sign anything you want.
    But keep in mind, he just missed the big money era by about 5 years and racked up a lot of debt since then