Let’s recap today’s titanic struggle….

FINAL — 10 innings
New York (NL) 4
Cincinnati 5
WP: Owings (3-0)
LP: Feliciano (1-1)
BOX SCORE

POSITIVES
–Clearly, Orlando Cabrera is the greatest shortstop ever to play this beautiful game. Three for five at the plate with two RBI and the game-winning walkoff homer. And defensively…well….well, he didn’t make any errors. Good game for OC. Kudos. And kudos again.

–Johnny Cueto went 2-2 at the plate. Oh yeah, he looked pretty good on the mound as well: 6 innings, three runs on 7 hits, 8 Ks, 2 walks. He still has this continuing propensity to lose focus for short periods, however. It’s unnerving.

–Jonny Gomes and Brandon Phillips each went 2-4, and each hit a homer. Reports from the ballpark say that Phillips loafed around the bases after the home run.*

–Nick Masset struck out two in his inning of work. Just like that, Masset has begun pitching well. Bizarre.

NEGATIVES
–Johnny Cueto, 24 years old, threw 118 pitches. Four days ago, a 23 year-old Homer Bailey threw 121 pitches. Twenty-five year old Edinson Volquez is recovering from major arm surgery. Somewhere, Kerry Wood just cried out in pain. Meanwhile, 22 year-old Mike Leake cowers in fear in a corner of the Reds clubhouse.

–Francisco Cordero blew the save. I’m starting to get frustrated with CoCo.

–Drew Stubbs went 0-5. Rinse. Repeat. His numbers are down in Taveras/Patterson territory: .174/.267/.283. How long are the Reds going to allow this youngster to struggle like this? At the very least, bat him eighth, Dusty!

ETC.
–A nice series win, and the Reds are back to .500. I like it.

–Paul Janish won’t play for a month now. Of course, there was a pretty good chance he wasn’t going to play in the next month anyway.

–Sorry, I won’t be making a Cabrera sombrero. I do need a Cueto sombrero pic, and a BP one might be nice. Guess we’re stuck with the original tonight:

Johnny Gomes

*That’s a joke, BP fans. Lighten up.

29 Responses

  1. BenL

    You joke about BP, but he hit one to the first baseman today and booked it to first, beating the pitcher to the bag with a head-first slide. I think he might have left the box a little quicker than usual on the HR too. Maybe some of the bad press he’s been getting sunk in? I hope? Maybe? 🙂

  2. pinson343

    BP did hustle on the infield hit. But after his wall-scraping HR, you can see on the video hilite that he stood there and watched it. So much so that Sheldon’s game report said:

    “Baker still had issues with his prized pupil after Wednesday’s game. On Phillips’ homer, it didn’t go unnoticed that he coasted up the line several feet before his long ball barely cleared the fence.

    ‘It looks like I’ll have to talk to him again,’ Baker said following the win.”

  3. pinson343

    Hernandez was thrown out at home by about as far as I’ve ever seen. And with Votto up next.

    His saying that he didn’t see the “hold” sign was lame.

  4. preach

    I was wondering if you would make an OC sombrero after the walk-off. Too bad. He really should have one. If we give him grief for the bad, he should get all the good he deserves as well…….

  5. pinson343

    Owings has been THE MAN in extra innings.

  6. pinson343

    All I actually saw of CoCo today was his pitch to Francoeur that was hit to deep center to tie the game, and it had nothing on it. The pitch was supposed to be a slider, according to GameDay. The pitch to Pagan that he lined to right for a single to set up the sac fly was also a slider, with probably not much on it.
    We were lucky he didn’t lose the game, Hernandez throwing out Pagan was big.

    It was his 3rd consecutive day, and he has a history of being more hittable on the 3rd day, but then there was the mistake to Barajas yesterday.

  7. pinson343

    Was just looking at some numbers, we should go easier on CoCo. He’s pitched in 16 or our 28 games, that’s just too often. I realize we’ve had a lot of close games, but just the same.

    Rhodes could close sometimes. Problem is, he’s overworked too (and 40).

    CoCo’s WHIP right now is 1.435, his highest since 2000. His H/9 and HR/9 are also their highest since 2000. It’s too soon to get alarmed, at this point in the season a couple of good games would knock those numbers down.

    But he is pitching too often.

  8. BenL

    @pinson343: Guess I was just seeing what I wanted to see on the HR… There’s something seriously wrong with me if Baker is making more objective observations than I am 🙂

  9. pinson343

    I like OC on offense. But it’s too bad about his play at SS.

    He could probably play a decent 2nd base, but we’re occupied there for now. So that gives me a thought. As already stated on the game thread, OC probably won’t be with us after this season. But if BP were traded this season, it would open up some new possibilities. I don’t really want to trade BP, I like him even with his flaws, but $11.5M (or whatever) next year is too much.

  10. pinson343

    @BenL: Your statement was that “he might have left the box a little quicker than usual.” Actually, he might have. And your “might” shows you weren’t too sure about it, just sort of wishful thinking.

  11. mike

    I really hope Chapman doesn’t get called up until Dusty is gone. It would be so sad if Baker destroyed him as well.

    And Wood very well could have been crying out in pain in Ohio! He’s pitching for the Cleveland AAA team in Akron. Or was, not sure. He’s pitched 2/3 of an inning

  12. earl

    I don’t even really know where the Reds could trade Phillips even if they came to a point of making a deal. I just don’t see an obvious team that might be interested and has the need.

    Coco has been pretty consistent since in Cincy of not being that great on that 3rd day in a row. This has been true his first couple of years and now Dusty is pretty much running anyone in that will get an out. He’s kind of running the pen like this a pennant run, not early May.

    I’m glad they won, but I have to think that all of these bullpen use on Coco and Rhodes will show up as blow ups the dog days of summer.

  13. mike

    I can’t believe how good the pitching has gotten in the last two weeks. In the last 14 days only 2 Reds have an ERA over 5???? Arroyo and Fisher.

    The team ERA in the last 14 days is 4.25
    Lincoln and Rhodes have pitched 9 combined innings allowing no runs and only 2 hits

    Harang, Leake and Bailey all have ERA at 4.26 or below in the last two weeks.

    such a turnaround from the first 3 weeks

  14. Bill Lack

    Bailey said in the Enquirer yesterday that he didn’t care about pitch counts and wished they’d go away…ugh. ‘Course, I’m not sure what the kid could say…”My manager keeps me out there ’til I can scratch my ankle w/o bending over…but I’m fine with it.”

  15. mike

    @Bill Lack: as someone famous once said. “do you think any pitcher on the mound will say ‘coach, I’m ready to come out of the game'”

    in other words agreed bill…..Bailey and any pitcher is going to want to stay in the game. Who wouldn’t?

    I did the same bowling the other day. Had taken a week off (rare), went to practice and you couldn’t have pulled me off the lanes. I bowled way too much….stupid stupid. But the adrenalin and working on stuff and the “just one more game”….I needed someone to tell me, “dude, that’s enough”

  16. mike

    weird wonder of the day
    Pittsburgh has a terrible team (as always, hell for 10 years I’ve been saying “at least we aren’t Pitt”) and they have been horrible this year. Scoring 93 and allowing 179.
    Read that again. In 27 games they have been outscored by 86 runs. Which is insane. Yet they are only a half game worse than the Reds

    The only thing I can think is they have been real lucky

    They have the biggest run differential in baseball yet have a better record than 9 teams??

  17. The Mad Hatter

    I know I harp on this occassionaly but yes OC had a good offensively today and hit the walk off homer to win the game in extra innings but he’s still on pace to have one of the worst years ever defensively for a SS. His current pace has him at 580 chances / 162 games, his typical average before this year was around 750 and a SS with solid to good range will be around 800. Great game yes, but how many outs is he giving away, how many extra pitches are pitchers throwing and how many wins has he cost this team in the first 1/6th of the season?

  18. pinson343

    Homer’s a young stud, of course he feels he’s indestructable.

    But the pitch count issue is complicated, as is the issue of how often a pitcher (starter or reliever) should pitch. Different pitchers, depending on their delivery, will stress their arms more or less than others.

    Also, any pitcher will say that 1 30 pitch inning is tougher on the arm than 2 15 pitch innings.

    For how often you pitch, some people will argue that starters can only pitch once every 5 days now (instead of 4 days) because that’s what they become accustomed to. Don’t know how the “breakdown” rates compare. And that’s a difficult comparison anyway, because nowadays there’s Tommy John and other career-saving surgeries you didn’t have before.

  19. pinson343


    The Mad Hatter:

    OC’s still on pace to have one of the worst years ever defensively for a SS. His current pace has him at 580 chances / 162 games, his typical average before this year was around 750 and a SS with solid to good range will be around 800. Great game yes, but how many outs is he giving away, how many extra pitches are pitchers throwing and how many wins has he cost this team in the first 1/6th of the season?

    Reply

    I like OC, but he hasn’t been adequate at SS. And without an adequate SS, your defense is going to give away a lot of runs.
    A “leaky” infield, they used to say.

  20. pinson343


    mike:

    weird wonder of the day
    Pittsburgh has a terrible team … In 27 games they have been outscored by 86 runs. Which is insane. Yet they are only a half game worse than the Reds

    Reply

    I don’t believe that Pythag “knows all” but it is a better predictor than current record. In any case, they won’t keep it up. The Pirates get blown out a lot because of their lack of starting pitching depth. So they get blown out one day, rest their good relievers, and win a close one the next. You can’t keep that up over 162 games, or even over 80 games.

  21. mike

    @pinson343: Pythag definitely doesn’t know all. And it’s even more susceptible to small sample size and I’ve read that it’s a terrible indicator during the season for many reasons. But I think you’ve nailed it with Pitt. What Pythag can do is show you something and then you can look into the why.

    So why are the Reds -28 runs but .500?

  22. UCReds

    ESPN showed a stat that had the most game winning hits by all active players. OC was 4th with 13

  23. Furniture City Red

    @preach: I agree with Preach…If we are gonna rag Cabrera when he messes up – it’s only right to give him his props when he does well. Make the guy a sombrero pic – he had a good game.

  24. Chad Dotson

    I gave OC plenty of credit in the recap. But no way in the world am I going to waste precious time out of my day creating a photoshop sombrero pic of that guy.

    When you take defense into account, OC is Taveras-level awful. He is killing this team.

  25. Furniture City Red

    @earl: Good point about Dusty using the pen like it was a pennant run…of course what he’s really doing is using the pen like his job is on the line, because it is. All we can do is hope he doesn’t do any permanent damage to our pitchers arms (starters and relievers) while he’s managing ‘job scared’.

  26. Furniture City Red

    @Chad Dotson:” When you take defense into account, OC is Taveras-level awful. He is killing this team.” You’re right 😳 …A good day at the plate doesn’t make up for ALL the balls he can’t get to at short.

  27. Furniture City Red

    OK, Crazy Idea time. Since Cabrera has lost a step at in the field and 2B requires less range and Dusty clearly wants Cabrera in the line-up…How about moving BP to SS and Cabrera to 2B ❓