Let’s recap tonight’s titanic struggle….

FINAL
San Diego 10
Cincinnati 4
WP: Correia (3-1)
LP: Arroyo (0-2)
BOX SCORE

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–If you think I’m going to waste my time writing a recap of that game, you’re out of your mind. This team is a disaster.

–The only thing I’ll say is this: the team’s two bat boys were the only players with multiple hits. On the season, Paul Janish — who has the best glove on the team, by the way — is hitting .462/.533/.923. Ryan Hanigan is hitting .440/.500/.640. Ridiculously small sample sizes, of course, but you can’t get a bigger sample size if the manager won’t let you play.

22 Responses

  1. Y-City Jim

    I plagiarized your comment on Janish and Hanigan for the idiots on Fay’s blog.

  2. Y-City Jim

    Somebody should tell Arroyo that it is July.

  3. BJ Ruble

    This game was sickening in every way.

    I do vote to Free Janish and Hanigan!

  4. World

    An ugly, ugly game. Yikes.

    The thing that y’all can do, and is apparently getting done in droves, is to refuse to attend the home games when this mess is what’s offered. Bob needs to have his hand forced to improve this team.

    While everyone understands that Dusty is a lame duck, the addition of Joe Morgan could be a chess piece on his side of the board. That being said, I doubt that Big Bob has any intention of giving Johnnie B. another contract. If this is accurate, then Castellini Sr. has to rely on Walt and others to offer advice vis-a-vis a change at the top. I think it’s going to come sooner than later but I may be wrong.

    There’s a lot of talent in the organization but Dusty is ignoring some of the basic building blocks. Take “strong up the middle” which is a time honored key to success but the Reds, with OC and Hernandez, are 2/3 deficient in that evaluation. Janish at SS and Senor H. behind the dish correct that problem yet Dusty, in his blind loyalty to the veteran ballplayer, allows the problem to persist to the constant detriment of the team.

    I don’t feel like writing any longer. Following this team under the present leadership is just awful. This is especially true for me as I’m really a Phillies fan at heart but became friends with the coaches, managers, trainers, clubhouse personnel, and former players of the Reds in 1992 and have been a royal rooter (with apologies to M.T. “Nuf Ced” McGreevy of the Sox) since those days. I wish you RN fans could have sat with Joe Nuxhall as I did for many a day and night and taken in how he saw things. The same goes for Tommy Browning and Pat Zachary and Don Gullett and many other former players who proudly wore the vestments of the Queen City. I’ve been a lucky man to know so many of these great human beings. The one thing they had in common was that they loved being a Red even if some of them had to deal with Marge and all that nonsense. I can tell you that it’s been killing them to see what’s happened in the past ten years.

    Enoguh. Time for another beer and a midnight walk down Broadway.

    Good night. Bring up the kid.

  5. TC

    I had lodge tonight. So I’m glad I had something to do tonight rather than watch this game.

  6. KYRedsFan

    If I keep watching this team I’m going to need a new liver before the all-star break.

  7. Furniture City Red

    Matt Maloney:
    3 starts , 3-0, 2.16 ERA, 16.2 IP, 22 SO, 2 BB, 1.02 WHIP

    Sam Lecure:
    3 Starts, 2-0, 2.08 ERA, 17.1 IP, 16 SO, 7BB, 1.21 WHIP

    plus Chapman and Wood…Is it possible that Louisville has a better starting staff than Cincinnati ?

    Sad to say, but the ONLY starter on the Reds that I have any confidence in is Leake.

    Arroyo – It’s like flipping a coin, 50/50 on whether he’ll give you a quality start or not.
    Harang – Stick a fork in ’em, He’s done. Should have been traded last year when he still had some value.
    Cueto and Bailey – They both have great stuff, but will they ever learn how to manage a game and control their pitch count?…maybe they should ask Leake to tutor them.

    * for Bailey and Cueto maybe that should say ‘remember’ instead of ‘learn’, since in the past they have both had stretches where they been dominate.

  8. Jason1972

    I don’t understand why our pitching staff is almost universally bad this year. Has Price been tinkering, are they still learning something he is trying to institute?

  9. pinson343

    The Janish/Hanigan situation has become intolerable. They won’t continue to bat .400 of course, but well under .300 would be acceptable, given their defense. They are also contact hitters who work the count.

    And according to every professional opinion I’ve heard, Janish is a better hitter this year – stronger, with a better stroke. A success for Jacoby and it’s going to waste.

  10. Brien Jackson

    I don’t think I’d say the Reds stink. From the outside looking in, I honestly think that with their roster and division, they’ve got the potential to win 80-87 games and compete for the wild card. The problem is Dusty Baker. He refuses to put his best lineup on the field, and he can’t even get the batting order right for the lineup he does run out there. I’m honestly starting to wonder if he isn’t doing it intentionally just to annoy his critics. It’s downright unfathomable.

    As for the starting pitching, I don’t know whether I’d sound the alarms yet or not. Arroyo is pitching ok. He has an FIP of 4.19, although his xFIP is 4.90, but so far he’s walking a lot of guys. His BB/9 is almost a full walk above his career average, which should correct itself. If he keeps the home run rate down and brings his walks down, he’ll have a good year. Harang is almost mind-blowing. His xFIP is 4 whole runs below his ERA. I’m honestly not sure that’s happened before. That’s because his HR/FB rate is 23.1%. One of every four fly balls hit off of Harang is a home run. That’s insane. I have no idea what to say about it really.

  11. Chris Garber

    @Furniture City Red: That’s an easy trap to fall into, FCR. It’s the backup QB thing – the guy on the bench never makes any mistakes, so he’s “rated” based on his ideal upside, and compared to the very human guy(s) currently doing the job.

    But we’ve seen Maloney at the big league level (4.87 ERA, 9 HR in 40 IP). I saw LeCure last week in Columbus. His upside comp is probably Kip Wells, unfortunately.

    The thing to remember about Cueto and Bailey: Put them in AAA and they probably put up the same crazy numbers, and everyone is clamoring for them to get up here.

  12. Jason1972


    Chris Garber:

    @Furniture City Red: That’s an easy trap to fall into, FCR. It’s the backup QB thing – the guy on the bench never makes any mistakes, so he’s “rated” based on his ideal upside, and compared to the very human guy(s) currently doing the job.
    But we’ve seen Maloney at the big league level (4.87 ERA, 9 HR in 40 IP). I saw LeCure last week in Columbus. His upside comp is probably Kip Wells, unfortunately.
    The thing to remember about Cueto and Bailey: Put them in AAA and they probably put up the same crazy numbers, and everyone is clamoring for them to get up here.

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    I am not sure what that means, are you saying Cueto and Bailey are overrated and that their AAA numbers won’t translate to big league success? I am most curious about Bailey, he seems to have innings where he is dominant and then makes just one or two mistake pitches. But his WHiP is very high, so he is more wild than he was last year I guess. His stuff just looks so much better than his results would indicate.

  13. Matthew Rosenthal

    It boggles the mind how people can still make daily complaints about the lineup when the starters have been horrendous. A team era of 6.20 is not going to get the job done. That is not Dusty’s fault and he should not be a lame duck simply because his starters are getting hammered.

  14. wanderinredsfan

    I wonder if our starting corps isn’t quite ‘warmed up’ so to speak. I spent some time in Goodyear during the latter part of spring training and noticed how our starters we’re not going as deep as nearly every competing pitcher. Plus, there was the problem with waiting until the final starts to decide the 5th starter which ate-up a lot of innings that could have been used by Arroyo, Harang, etc. to ‘hone their skills’.

    Of course this should have worked itself out by now, but I’m afraid that getting off to a poor start due to a lack of preparedness could have messed with our starter’s confidence, thus the poor start to the season. I hope this is the only reason for the poor performance thus far.

  15. Tom Diesman

    Maloney was put on Louisville’s DL with Jukich taking his roster spot yesterday. No mention on why he was DL’d.

  16. Tom Diesman

    I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I still expect Harang to get it straightened out and be the Reds best starter by years end.

  17. Brien Jackson

    I don’t know what to make of Harang. There’s just no real precedent I can think of for a top of the rotation starter having a HR/FB rate of 23% after 4 starts. Basically, that indicates that hitters are having little trouble squaring him up and really hitting the ball hard. It’ll come down, obviously, but how much? If I was betting on it, I’d expect Harang to continue to give up too many home runs, and probably keep his ERA up around 5.50

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  19. pinson343


    Tom Diesman:

    Maloney was put on Louisville’s DL with Jukich taking his roster spot yesterday. No mention on why he was DL’d.

    I read that Maloney had developed a blister.
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