It’s funny how this team toys with our emotions. Admit it, you feel pretty good about the Reds right now, don’t you (and not just because you are celebrating Pete Rose’s birthday)? Of course! So do I…but let’s be honest, the Reds haven’t really played very good baseball. If a couple of breaks had gone the other way, the Reds could be 3-5 and we’d all be in a bad mood.

Instead, a couple of breaks have gone our way and this Reds team just keep fighting and fighting and fighting and so we’re all in a pretty good mood. Silly, isn’t it?

Who cares? All I know is that I’m happy about where the Reds stand and I’m going to enjoy it. Tonight, my favorite pitcher –Homer Bailey — takes the mound as the Redlegs attempt to clinch a second straight series victory.

Game preview is here; I expect a lively game thread outta you guys and gals!

245 Responses

  1. RiverCity Redleg

    Reds lineup:

    Dickerson 8
    Janish 6
    Votto 3
    Phillips 4
    Rolen 5
    Bruce 9
    Gomes 7
    Hernandez 2
    Bailey 1

    Dickerson in for Stubbs – Stubbs has a sore back, not serious
    Janish gets his first start over OC. Of course he bats second, he’s the SS.

  2. TheNatural

    -.5 already for hitting Janish 2nd…

  3. VTNReds

    Argh!!! Rolen should be #2 and Janish #8. I’ll never understand.

  4. earl

    I’ve watched the last couple of games but not been online till today.

    Jay Bruce- I’m glad to see him get a couple of hits and nice swings against some lefties. The Marlins did show some respect to his arm as I saw their third base coach put some hard breaks one play they could have tried to run on him.

    Scott Rolen- It is nice to have someone at third who can actually field and then throw out the typical play. With Edwin and others, thirdbase has been adventure for the Reds for some time. Scott Rolen is looking pretty good at the plate now.

    Brandon Phillips- He got some good swings yesterday, but I don’t get what is going on with that back foot thing at the plate. He seems to be trying to swing a 3 wood instead of a baseball bat at times. Brandon hasn’t worked the count so far as well as he did last year, which was somewhat improved.

    Logan Ondrusek- The guy is not ready to get out a major league 3-4-5. He has some speed and movement in his pitches, so I don’t think he is far away from possibly figuring it out, but to me he looks less polished on the mound than even Carlos Fisher did last year. (This being said, I’m glad the Reds only have to face Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramierez like 7 games in a season. They are pretty tough.) (second addition- The fact that Cincy also has Jared Burton and Carlos Fisher rolling around in the minors is pretty good for some bullpen depth, especially considering how bad the bullpen was just a few short years ago.)

    Drew Stubbs probably should get a day off either way, he isn’t swinging the bat too hot. I’d go with the hot bat out of all of those various outfielders. None of them really have earned their name etched guaranteed into the lineup yet.

    Chris Dickerson- I think he should be getting a few more at bats.

    Jonny Gomes- There are certain pitchers Gomes can hit. Gomes looked pretty decent in the field on a couple of plays. He might not be great out there, but you can’t question the effort. I love watching this guy play and am glad he is around.

    Micah Owings- His stuff looks pretty good this year. He is getting the hitters to swing and miss his pitches. I like having him in the bullpen in a way, as the Reds could put him out and let him roll for a few innings. I would have led towards just going with Owings for 3-4 innings last night and not even got Coco up.

  5. Y-City Jim

    Yes!!! Janish has been freed!!!. Make it permanent!! Just not the two spot.

  6. Kurt Frost

    I saw that Dusty Baker said this:

    “That’s what velocity will do for you. But it’s better to swing at Ball 4 than take Strike 3.”

    I’m trying to figure out if it makes sense or not.

    • VTNReds

      I saw that Dusty Baker said this:“That’s what velocity will do for you. But it’s better to swing at Ball 4 than take Strike 3.”I’m trying to figure out if it makes sense or not.

      Wouldn’t it be better to take ball 4, and swing at strike 3?

      • Y-City Jim

        Wouldn’t it be better to take ball 4, and swing at strike 3?

        LOL!!!

    • preach

      I don’t know…it’s so stupid, it’s almost genius.

      Brilliant.

      Uh-oh. That ball was CRUSHED.

  7. VTNReds

    He’s turning into the next Yogi Berra.

    • Y-City Jim

      He’s turning into the next Yogi Berra.

      Yogi had charm. Baker has none. He just comes off stupid.

    • Y-City Jim

      Can’t believe Dusty is letting his bat boy play and bat second.

      This team is headed for the sh**ter!! 😀

  8. Y-City Jim

    Hernandez batting 8th? Wow!!! Did he make Dusty mad or something?

  9. Chad Dotson

    This whole cf and ss 1-2 thing remains insane. Why hasn’t one of the beat writers asked him about it?

    • Y-City Jim

      This whole cf and ss 1-2 thing remains insane. Why hasn’t one of the beat writers asked him about it?

      Because Daugherty is a baseball god and he thinks we are just a bunch of whiny fans.

  10. Y-City Jim

    Wow!!! The No. 2 hitter does something completely crazy and draws a walk!

  11. Y-City Jim

    Which means that might be the first walk of the year out of the No. 2 spot.

  12. Y-City Jim

    Cincinnati really needs a smart ass reporter to cover the Reds just to irritate the hell out of Baker.

  13. Jason

    Only 8 some odd games into the season and I’m already tired of the FSN commercials. I also forgot to look both ways on my motorcycle this morning, so I blame FSN for not shoveling that PSA down my throat again this year.

  14. Y-City Jim

    Where’s FarmersOnly.com when you need it?

  15. TheNatural

    Is anyone else not getting the HD feed?

  16. Travis G.

    Does FSN have the Marlins bats mic’d up or are they really hitting the ball that hard?

    • Y-City Jim

      Does FSN have the Marlins bats mic’d up or are they really hitting the ball that hard?

      I vote mic’d up cause I’m hearing ball hitting glove pretty loud as well.

  17. Y-City Jim

    Could be a long night at this rate.

  18. Jason

    I mean, I hate to stereotype and all, but… A.) Do farmers frequently use the internets? And if so, for dating? Really? B.) Do farmers watch Reds baseball on the regs? I could go further into the farmer stereotype well, but I shant. All of you could very well be farmers for all I know, that would awkward.

    • Y-City Jim

      I mean, I hate to stereotype and all, but… A.) Do farmers frequently use the internets? And if so, for dating? Really? B.) Do farmers watch Reds baseball on the regs? I could go further into the farmer stereotype well, but I shant. All of you could very well be farmers for all I know, that would awkward.

      I work with a guy who I guess could be called a part time farmer. He sells sperm from his bulls (not to FarmersONly.com though). on the Internet.

      • Greg Dafler

        I work with a guy who I guess could be called a part time farmer. He sells sperm from his bulls (not to FarmersONly.com though). on the Internet.

        This made me think of the movie “Kingpin”

        Woody Harrelson’s character, coming up to the house with a milk moustache. “I milked your cow for you!”

        Farmer: “We don’t have a cow, we have a bull.”

    • Y-City Jim

      Error on Rolen? Unexpected.

      Second of the year? He’s approaching Encarnacion status, who has three over eight games.

  19. Jason

    @Chad Dotson: Oh…..me too, Chad. Me too. I gotta go now (enter something a farmer would say he has to do on his…farm).

    • Y-City Jim

      @Y-City Jim: Im gonna pretend I didn’t read your post.

      Obviously he is sort of running FarmersOnly.com for cows.

  20. Jason

    @Y-City Jim: Are you sure, Jim. I could’ve swore that their tagline was “You Dont Have To Be Lonely, Thanks To Farmers Only!……Got Bull Sperm?”

  21. Y-City Jim

    At least for cows who crave artificial insemination.

  22. VTNReds

    Well, that first inning could’ve been much, much worse.

  23. Jason

    @TheNatural: Yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket. (Jon Lovitz, circa 86′. Really, Jason?)

  24. TheNatural

    @RedZeppelin: Mine just kicked in.
    Man we’re hitting bullets, just gotta start hitting ’em where they ain’t

  25. Y-City Jim

    Did the Reds cut the budget for batting helmets? Some of these helmets look like they were purchased at Goodwill.

  26. mike

    @Chad Dotson: actually one of the beat writers write an article today telling everyone to stop complaining about the lineups.

    • Travis G.

      @Chad Dotson: actually one of the beat writers write an article today telling everyone to stop complaining about the lineups.

      No, that was Daugherty. He quotes someone who says Dusty’s lineups might cost the Reds two or three wins, which Daugherty dismisses out of hand by guessing they’ll only win 77 or 79 games.

    • Bill Lack

      @Chad Dotson: actually one of the beat writers write an article today telling everyone to stop complaining about the lineups.

      Wasn’t a beat writer, that was a “columnist”…Daugherty…used to do Sportstalk on WLW

  27. mike

    @Travis G.: I thought that was a double all the way. by the way Bruce was running it looks like he thought it was as well. It was hit to the gap but with Maybin’s speed there is no gap

  28. Chad Dotson

    @mike: That was Daugherty. He is an idiot columnist, not a beat writer. I wanna see Fay call Dusty on his lineups.

    • Greg Dafler

      @mike: That was Daugherty. He is an idiot columnist, not a beat writer. I wanna see Fay call Dusty on his lineups.

      Don’t hold your breath. Reading Baker’s quotes, I think he’s aware that people on Fay’s blog complain about his lineups all the time, and it seems if Fay is even asking the question it is a “people are asking” type of question. I don’t think he’d ever come out and 2nd guess Baker to his face.

      Just my impressions…

  29. Jason

    Everytime Jay slides for a ball like that I’m going to worry about him re-injuring that wrist. Not a good start thus far. Maybe a good thing since my pool was starting to get filled with the April Reds Kool-Aid, something I swore I wouldnt do this early season.

  30. Jason

    Nice stab, Janish! O Cab wouldve totally dropped that and thrown it into the stands.

  31. earl

    Well all things considered, it could have been a heck of a lot worse. I guess there is something to be said for Homer just kind of blowing it instead of completely blowing the game. Homer isn’t as rattled looking on the mound as he was a couple of years ago, but I wouldn’t call him comfortable either.

  32. Sean

    I totally agree with Jason about Bruce, he dives in there so awkwardly that re-injury seems likely. I am also beginning to wonder if Homer is ever going to be to learn to pitch effectively (I guess these sort of games force you to). And he definitely cannot throw his curveball consistently at all. Atleast he is finding a way to get out of the inning though.

  33. Bill Lack

    Thom has figured out that the CF MUST hit leadoff…hasn’t figured out the SS position yet.

  34. wanderinredsfan

    @Sean: Rolen’s error didn’t help and the Marlins’ hitters are much better than I think people give them credit. Ramirez just makes everyone around him better. Votto does that somewhat, but Ramirez is a line-up changer IMO.

  35. UCReds

    For all his trouble, Homer’s only let up 2. We’re in it! Let’s go bats!

  36. earl

    Nice to see HB have a clean 123 inning. He needs to put up a few more and help save the pen tonight.

  37. Chris Garber

    I may be the only guy who doesn’t complain too much about subbing Janish into the #2 hole. It’s only really stupid if you’re the type of manager who’s always swapping around the other spots in the batting order. And Dusty’s not, really.

    Batting Janish 8th, where he deserves, would involve batting Rolen out of place. It obviously also moves Bruce, Gomes, and Ramon, but those moves aren’t as disruptive. If you just plug Janish into the #2 hole, you have a lousy #2 hitter, but the rest of your lineup is intact.

  38. Jason

    Gomes, stepping up again. Nice knock.

  39. Jason

    Alright, FX Has The Movies, I get it. Yeeesh.

  40. mike

    Phillips has played in 744 games in his career
    He’s drawn 2 or more BB in a game 11 times
    the last being June 2009

  41. preach

    “you can sense the frustration.”

    Yeah, having to listen to you, Thom….

  42. Kurt Frost

    We are planning on going to the Bats game to see Chapman’s second start Friday night.

  43. preach

    After he hits the double, does he have to take the bat back to the dugout before he can run the bases?

    “He has doubles power” read: Can’t hit it over a fence ever.

  44. mike

    two thoughts based on watching a couple games
    First, I wondered to myself, which Red looks best at the plate and has the best AB? My thought is Bruce so far this season. Which is odd when you look at his #s.

    Second, Bailey seems to have the same problem he’s had his whole career. He needs to throw more strikes.

  45. TheNatural

    @Kurt Frost: I’m jealous. I wanted to go see him pitch so bad, but I’m stuck bartending every Thursday/Friday/Saturday night. I never make it to Bats games.

  46. BigRedMike

    It seems like Thom is really fired up about the number times a Reds player has stuck out this year.

  47. BigRedMike

    Bailey’s fast ball seems to be very straight.

  48. preach

    I didn’t know the Marlins had cheerleaders. I knew the Steelers didn’t, and a qb named “Big Ben”. Of course, they are gay.

  49. mike

    right after I said Bailey should throw more strikes he gets up 2 strikes, 1 ball to Cantu. The catcher sets up outside OFF the plate. Bailey misses and the, what looked like a fastball goes right down the middle of the plate and Cantu crushed it for a HR. OK maybe it’s not so much throw more strikes as it is, hit your spots.

  50. Jason

    @Kurt Frost: Enjoy. I caught him up here in Toledo on Sunday. Try to get there early enough to get down whatever base line the Bats warm up on and watch him throw. It was a moment for every one of us down there on Sunday, the ball makes a sound I’ve never heard in all my years going to ballgames. Everyone just kinda looked around with their mouths agape.

  51. wanderinredsfan

    @Steve: It doesn’t help when the catcher is poor at framing and calling a game. I’m not a fan of Hernandez. I’d like to see how Bailey would do with Hanigan behind the plate.

    • Y-City Jim

      @Steve: It doesn’t help when the catcher is poor at framing and calling a game.I’m not a fan of Hernandez.I’d like to see how Bailey would do with Hanigan behind the plate.

      Very good point. I think we are seeing the laziness rep from Hernandez.

  52. preach

    CANTU!!!! Oh, he’s not a Red anymore. What did we get for him anyway? Oh, that’s right……

  53. Truman48

    Well Homer is at 100 pitches in the bottom of the 5th. When will our pen get a break?

  54. Steve

    Would Cabrera have made that play? Not clear. Janish is so much better than Cabrera. Too bad this game isn’t going well otherwise.

    • Greg Dafler

      Would Cabrera have made that play? Not clear. Janish is so much better than Cabrera. Too bad this game isn’t going well otherwise.

      When do we start to see the “fielding fx” data? Wasn’t this the season that they do the olympic type “ghosting” of one player’s range compared to another?

  55. wanderinredsfan

    Anybody think Dusty brings Homer back out for the 6th?

    • Truman48

      Anybody think Dusty brings Homer back out for the 6th?

      Why not? Somebody has to chew up some innings.

  56. Steve

    When we are behind like this it isn’t as hard on the bullpen because we can use everyone, including Lincoln (for 2 innings, of course).

  57. mike

    @Truman48: I’m hoping out pen will not break because Owings can go 80-90 pitches easy, has been pitching great and in situations like these should be put in the game and let pitch until the end of the game.
    He only threw 32 pitches last night, he could probably go…but I’d bet we’ll see Lincoln. It might be nice to get Ondrusek some work since the Reds are losing because he’s been awful.

  58. Jason

    Janish can pitch the rest of the game to spell the pen. i’d stick around for that.

  59. Kurt Frost

    @Jason: I’m just glad he’s not pitching Saturday. I don’t go anywhere near downtown during Thunder Over Louisville.

    • Greg Dafler

      @Jason: I’m just glad he’s not pitching Saturday. I don’t go anywhere near downtown during Thunder Over Louisville.

      If they have a rainout Friday night and Chapman’s start get pushed to Saturday, I’ll have a shot at watching him pitch Thursday in Indy.

  60. Steve

    Jay Bruce is going to be OK. He really has hit the ball pretty well this year.

  61. Truman48

    What was Janish’s ERA last year? 45.00? That should be interesting.

  62. Steve

    Maybe all the good shortstop play (both teams) tonight will remind Baker what it looks like.

  63. Steve

    Wonder if Thom will apologize when Lincoln comes into the game. He should. It is so bush league that they have pretended it didn’t happen.

  64. Jason

    There really hasnt been anything said in the media in regards to “Link-Shi#*er” Gate, has there?

    • Y-City Jim

      There really hasnt been anything said in the media in regards to “Link-Shi#*er” Gate, has there?

      Not traditional media anyhow

  65. Steve

    Homer still in. No one was up in the bullpen until that hit. Unbelievable.

  66. Greg Dafler

    There was a “Bruce apologizes” article in the ENquirer today.

    Any mention about Thom’s words?

  67. Steve

    Gotta get Homer out of there. Baker is blowing it.

    • Steve

      C.Trent said that both Fay and Sheldon are aware of the audio clip

      They’ll never have the nerve to do anything that would rile up the Brennamans. It would be nice if they didn’t have to. If Thom had any class (well, if he did, he wouldn’t have said it in the first place) he’d have apologized immediately without prompting.

  68. preach

    That’s two in a row that Hernandez almost threw away. Three anyone?

  69. Greg Dafler

    On one hand, it is funny that Thom said it and said it in front of a hot mic.

    On the other hand, he has to own it and apologize.

  70. preach

    Good job getting the lead runner. DP still in order with the P on first.

  71. Steve

    It’s unbelievable how long Homer has been left in the game so early in the year. 114 pitches and counting.

  72. Kyle

    I’m really disappointed with Homer’s performance in both starts, but this is inexplicable. This is a horrible job of protecting your young pitcher. If you are going to risk ruining someone’s arm in this situation, make it someone who is not as valuable. Lincoln should’ve been out there from the start of this inning. Or Ondrusek, then after he is pinch hit for, Lincoln for the 7th and 8th.

  73. Steve

    Not a great night for Homer. Didn’t really have anything other than his fastball. I also wonder if Hannigan calls a better game for Homer. That’s one other factor about Homer’s strong finish last year, I bet Hannigan was the catcher for many of those games.

    I read somewhere last year that pretty much all the pitchers would rather throw to Hannigan. Hernandez calls his own game, not tailored to the pitchers very much. It looked like there was a point tonight where Homer called him out to tell him he wanted to throw more splitters.

  74. TheNatural

    Who knows that Thom even knows that what he said was actually broadcast? Furthermore, who knows that Thom hasn’t already apologized to Lincoln? Also, the only reason we know about what he said is because a fellow obsessive Reds fan recorded it. Why publicly apologize for something that most likely only a several hundred people know about?

  75. Steve

    I agree that if Thom has apologized privately to Lincoln that’s enough.

  76. Greg Dafler

    Re: Hernandez – yes, that was the downside of re-signing him. Some expressed the thought that Hanigan would start more frequently than Hernandez, but that is clearly not the case. Hernandez is an acceptable backup at this point in his career but he’s no longer a starter.

  77. Steve

    If we can get a couple runs this inning we can still make this game competitive.

    • Y-City Jim

      If we can get a couple runs this inning we can still make this game competitive.

      Big if though.

  78. Y-City Jim

    Thom Brennaman is a SPCA guy? I wonder if he knows Sarah McLachlan?

    • Y-City Jim

      Thom Brennaman isa SPCA guy? I wonder if he knows Sarah McLachlan?

      Actually as preppy as he is, does he know Ryan Secrest?

  79. Steve

    And don’t worry, we have Cabrera available to pinch hit tonight!

  80. mike

    @TheNatural: well it WAS broadcast so there are a good # of people that could have heard it. Plus the youtube vid has been viewed 2950 times. But I come at this from a different angle. He was telling the truth. Is that so bad? What if last year he said something slightly mean about Taveras’s hitting? Lincoln is done as a pitcher. He hasn’t had a good season since 2002. Maybe he could have said it in a more polite way?

    • Steve

      He was telling the truth. Is that so bad? What if last year he said something slightly mean about Taveras’s hitting? Lincoln is done as a pitcher. He hasn’t had a good season since 2002. Maybe he could have said it in a more polite way?

      Well, it wasn’t the truth, even that night. Lincoln pitched fine. Lincoln had an excellent year for the Reds two years ago, a great one in fact. Thom’s comments wasn’t “slightly mean” it was well beyond that. And why would the Reds tolerate one of their employees saying that publicly about one of their players?

    • Greg Dafler

      @Greg Dafler: And I know it WAS broadcast, but my point was that Thom may not have known it was unless it was brought to his attention.

      It’s possible that he doesn’t know about it, but I’d bet he knows.

  81. mike

    @Greg Dafler: Hanigan has a lot pluses. He plays GREAT defense, has a GREAT arm and he gets on base. I have no problem (am not worried if he’s slow) with him batting 2nd. I was really hoping he would be named the starting catcher.

  82. Steve

    Dare to dream, how about a homer by Janish here.

    (Had this typed just as he hit it, honest!)

  83. Y-City Jim

    KISS MY BUTT, ORLANDO CABRERA!!!!

  84. MrSaturdayNite

    Janish has been eating his veggies on the kiddie bench.

  85. mike

    JANISH!
    props to him for sitting the bench for over a week, getting his chance and having a great game. Cabrera who?

  86. Steve

    Well, now Cabrera can play another two weeks. Maybe Janish will be allowed to pinch run every now and again.

  87. wanderinredsfan

    The worst thing about Hernandez that I don’t like is his game-calling. I just wonder if he even attempts to do his ‘homework’ on an opposite team’s line-up before a series begins? It just appears that he doesn’t know many players weaknesses. He works in when he should work away. He works fastballs, when he should call for off-speed stuff. I’m no major leaguer, but it sure frustrates the hell out of me when a player jacks a long-ball on a pitch that shouldn’t have been called.

    • Steve

      It’s not over yet…

      Yep. Hope the bullpen can hold on.

  88. mike

    @CeeKeR: yeah it increased the chances of the Reds winning by 9% (now there is a geeky stat). The chances of the Marlins winning went from 96.2% before Dickerson and Janish batted to to 86.5% 😕

  89. Steve

    Rolen is good. “My goodness, what a play.”–Brantley

  90. Greg Dafler

    I’d imagine that Thom’s miscue and Bruce’s action got about the same number of hits/views before Bruce’s story in the Enquirer.

    IMO, Bruce’s action was less of an issue than Thom’s (Bruce was messing with teammates…it wasn’t like the angry finger that Danny Graves flipped to fans a few years back), so I was surprised that his was the only one getting a print apology in the local media.

    • Steve

      IMO, Bruce’s action was less of an issue than Thom’s (Bruce was messing with teammates…it wasn’t like the angry finger that Danny Graves flipped to fans a few years back), so I was surprised that his was the only one getting a print apology in the local media.

      Class vs. no class.

  91. Sean

    That’s it, I’m getting an authentic Janish jersey!

  92. Steve

    Lincoln has been fine when he only has to pitch one inning, good in fact. The entire problem has been Baker extending him to a second inning. If only that was obvious enough for someone to figure it out…

  93. mike

    @Greg Dafler: agreed. I saw no reason Bruce should apologize. The some teammates were obvious jokingly getting on him about something and he playfully made an “obscene gesture”. If anything I was happy that Bruce was staying lose during his streak of bad luck.

    • Steve

      @Steve: fun vs anger

      I meant Jay Bruce had class and wanted to apologize. Thom has no class and won’t think of doing it unless confronted with it.

  94. CeeKeR

    I expect good things from the Reds in the 8th inning…but two quick outs in the time it took me type this suggests otherwise.

  95. Y-City Jim

    That first pitch called strike sunk Bruce.

  96. MrSaturdayNite

    Mike Lincoln inning #2 Game Over!

    • mike

      Mike Lincoln
      – 2nd inning of work
      – great idea

      😯 😯 😯

  97. Chris Garber

    What the Homer’s final pitch count?

  98. Y-City Jim

    If Vin Scully made such a remark over an open mic, what would he had done? My guess is apologize.

  99. MrSaturdayNite

    @Greg Dafler: It always works so well, doesn’t it? One of Dusty’s most brilliant ideas.

  100. Barnes

    @mike: Yeah, my guess is some guy in the dugout yelled, “How many hits you got now?” And Jay told him- two.

  101. Steve

    BP and Janish make a great team turning the DP.

  102. mike

    @Barnes: funny. I would love to know what was said and by who. I’ll bet it was great.

  103. Greg Dafler

    According to gamecast, pitch #1 and pitch #2 to Ramirez from Lincoln were in the exact same position at the inner edge of the strike zone… pitch #1 was called a strike and pitch #2 was called a ball.

  104. mike

    @mike: I should also add that there would be absolutely NO better defense-up-the-middle IN BASEBALL with Hanigan, Janish, Phillips and Stubbs/Dickerson.

  105. Greg Dafler

    pitch # 3 and #4 were also in the exact same spot and both called strikes…

    I’m not watching the game at the moment…were all 4 pitches in the exact same spot?

  106. MrSaturdayNite

    How does that Coors Light train not run anyone over?

  107. Greg Dafler

    Conspiracy theory at work: Lincoln intentionally beaned Ramirez, so he could face Hanley Ramirez in his 2nd inning of work so that he could K him and then proceed to flip off Thom.

  108. Steve

    Need a base runner. No chance Gomes will try to do anything other than hit it out. Not what we need here.

  109. Steve

    Gomes swinging for the fences even on strike three.

  110. Jason

    @MrSaturdayNite: It didnt last year, thanks to the aforementioned motorcycle PSA’s telling us to look both ways while driving. This year, w/o the PSA’s, well, sadly thats a different story all together.

  111. Jason

    Alright, I’ll put you down April Reds Kool-Aid. Until, Thursday.

  112. Steve

    Boy, getting on base is really not a strength of this team, especially those hitters.

  113. TheNatural

    @mike: The Mariners might disagree with you on that.

  114. mike

    @TheNatural: That is an interesting comparison

    CF: Stubbs/Dickerson vs Gutierrez is even
    2B: Phillips vs Figgins we don’t know because Figgins hasn’t played that much 2B. But Phillips has been in the top 3 in baseball 2 years running. Possible small edge to Phillips
    SS: Janish vs Wilson is even and the two best
    C: Hanigan vs Johnson. Hanigan was the 2nd best defensive catcher in baseball last year and Johnson didn’t play much. Hard to judge but i’d say edge Hanigan

    I’d say unless Figgins is brilliant at 2B. Edge Reds

  115. TheNatural

    @mike: If you think Stubbs/Dickerson is even you’re out of your mind

  116. Chris Garber

    @TheNatural: I think he’s just saying that the combination of those two guys in CF for the Reds (w/ Stubbs presumably playing more) is as good as F. Gutierrez. You think that’s crazy talk?

  117. TheNatural

    @Chris Garber: I knew what he was saying, I forgot to put “as good as Guiterrez then” into the comment….and yes, I do think that’s crazy talk. Gutierrez is the premier defensive CF in the game.

  118. mike

    @TheNatural: he’s GREAT there is not doubt about it. But not only do I think Stubbs is as good. The #s last year show it

    UZR/150
    45.5 Dickerson (limited innings)
    40.5 Nyger Morgan
    38.2 Justin Maxwell
    34.8 Dewayne Wise
    30.0 Andres Torres
    28.5 Drew Stubbs
    27.1 Franklin Guiterrez

    I’ve seen 4 of those guys a good number of times. I think by eye you could in no way tell who was a better defender. They are all great. It’s why I said even.

  119. TheNatural

    @mike: You cannot use UZR/150 to compare players with such large discrepancies in innings. It’s assuming that all those players above Gutierrez maintain their stellar defensive performance over the entire course of a season. Look at UZR instead.

    UZR
    29.1 – Gutierrez (1353 innings)
    7.6 – Stubbs (368 innings)
    6.2 – Dickerson (170 innings)

  120. mike

    @TheNatural: I think you have it backwards. You can’t use a totals stat to compare players with large inning discrepancies.

  121. TheNatural

    @mike: Yes, you can. You have it backwards. Using UZR/150 in this instance is the same as taking what Pujols did last year, projecting what Nelson Cruz is doing this year out to 150 games and them comparing the two.

  122. preach

    Franklin Guiterrez is hands down the best regular CF in major league baseball. Doesn’t matter what stat is used. His precision play is spectacular.

  123. earl

    Franklin Gutierrez made a game saving crazy catch in right field for the Indians that kept the Reds from beating them a couple of years ago when I saw them play. I can’t remember who hit the ball, but if it dropped there would have been a couple of runs scored. Gutierrez covered a huge amount of ground and made a leap in the warning track to make the catch.

  124. TheNatural

    @mike: You have NO idea what you’re talking about. Just shush.

  125. pinson343

    No need for Mike to shush, he has good ideas.

    But I did see Gutierrez play CF in a game at Yankee Stadium last year, and he’s crazy good. He robbed the Yankees of extra base hits on balls that did not seem remotely catchable. Stubbs can hopefully be that good soon.

  126. Greg Dafler

    @mike & @TheNatural: You’re both right. You cannot compare UZR straight up with other players because it is a counting stat. Otherwise you have issue like Taveras had a UZR > Stubbs last year, but it’s only because he played more innings. UZR/150 is the better tool.

    However, UZR/150 suffers from sample size issues. A full season worth of data is about equivalent to 2 to maybe 3 months of batting data. So, Stubbs 40 games worth of data from last year is like 2-3 weeks of batting data. And I think we can agree that 2-3 weeks of batting data is far from conclusive.