John Fay’s blog has a blurb with Dusty talking about sitting down with Chapman…but this is the part that scares me…

    “Latin guys who play winter baseball (are in shape),” Baker said. “From talking to Bryan, (Chapman) usually had two weeks off the whole year. This is probably the longest he’s been off his whole life.

    “I think there’s something to that. When I played Winter Ball, the guys I played with played all year. Very rarely did they have sore arms. I had teammates who ceased having arm problems when they started throwing in the offseason.”

Yeah…didn’t bother Volquez at all.

12 Responses

  1. Sultan of Swaff

    @preach: Way to see the bright side, Preach. You’re a glass half full kinda guy, aren’t you?

  2. JasonL

    It’s time we all just face facts. Arm injuries don’t happen if you throw a million innings. They happen because you are weak. Weak, I say. And Dusty doesn’t want weaklings on his team.

    • hoosierdad

      JasonL: It’s time we all just face facts. Arm injuries don’t happen if you throw a million innings. They happen because you are weak. Weak, I say. And Dusty doesn’t want weaklings on his team.

      Just about fell out of my chair laughing. Great post! 😆

      • Aroldis Is Our Savior

        hoosierdad:
        Just about fell out of my chair laughing.Great post!

        Haha Same

  3. Wire to Wire

    Chapman himself says he throws all year. I think there is a lot of truth in that players from latin america and japan throw all year to stay strong, while american players take the throw and rest approach.

  4. Mark in CC

    I think Volquez might be a perfect example. I think he had only 2 appearances of Winter Ball in the Dominican last year(’09) as the Reds tried to protect both he had Cueto with fewer innings. Thusly they were not where they needed to be when the WBC came along and the bad arm by Edinson. Maybe if he had done his normal winter routine and been in shape for WBC he wouldn’t have gotten hurt.

  5. Wire to Wire

    I Agree with you completely Mark in CC. Changing the routines that these guys have done all there life is not a good idea.

  6. SFRedsfan

    Scary thought for all of us- Baker did the same thing to Bailey last year 50+ innings over the year before! Young pitchers need time to develop strength

  7. Chris

    Throwing: it’s so hard to tell with Dusty. Throwing regularly, so long as they’re not going 100% every day is actually really good for one’s arm, control and so on. In fact, it’s really the only way you can build arm strength, etc. Someone pointed out that Japanese and Latin players do it, Johnny Sain and Leo Mazzone both were advocates of throwing regularly.

    At the same time, throwing isn’t the same thing as pitching, and I wouldn’t be so sure Dusty knows the difference. One has to do with maintenance, repeating your delivery, etc. in a way that fatigues (as in exercises) the arm, the other is a maximum effort thing that does stress and strain muscles, ligaments and tendons. You’re less likely to hurt yourself doing the latter if you do the former.

    It’s like any other exercise– if you jog every day, then have to run really hard for some reason, perhaps you’re being chased down the street by Rosie Red, you’re much less likely to hurt yourself so doing than someone who doesn’t and has to run really hard for some reason.

  8. Matt B.

    Rob Neyer picked the Reds as a surprise team this year during an interview on ESPN Radio. However, he was quick to note that he’s not a fan of Dusty Baker, “I don’t think he knows a good young player when he sees one.”