The Arizona Fall League opened yesterday and seven Reds prospects will be playing for the Peoria Saguaros, who are managed by David Bell. Reds farmhands in action are pitchers Brad Boxberger, Mike Leake, Logan Ondrusek, and Sean Watson, as well as 1B Yonder Alonso, SS Zack Cozart, and OF Chris Heisey.

The Saguaros lost their first game 8 – 4. All of the Reds prospects saw action except for Boxberger and Leake (who are starting pitchers). Watson and Ondrusek each gave up 3 R in 1 IP. Chris Heisey started in CF and went 2 for 4 with a 3B. Alonso went 1 for 5. Zack Cozart went 0 for 4 and committed 2 E at SS.

I was surprised to see Boxberger and Leake added to the roster after just being drafted. I always thought this league was for more advanced prospects. It will be interesting to see how they perform there. I hope to see Heisey and Alonso do very well to help put themselves into the mix for some playing time with the Reds next season.

20 Responses

  1. JasonL

    Isn’t Leake, at least, supposed to be pretty advanced? I might be misremembering things, but I thought he was supposed to be reasonably close from the get go. As in, he’ll like spend most of next year in AA. I could be wrong, though.

  2. Dan

    I think it’s b/c the signing deadline for draft picks got moved so late (August 15, I think?) that there’s no point sending those deadline signees to the minors for 2 weeks at that point. So, Arizona became a nice option.

  3. preach

    From the article Jello sites:

    “Jocketty overspent on Taveras and Lincoln a year ago, committing $10.25MM to the pair. Add that to the $11MM the Reds GM took on for Rolen next year, and it’s clear the Reds don’t have much flexibility this winter. Improvements will have to come from within.”

    Someone in the front office should have read this blog. Can you believe we committed over 10 mil to those two guys? Sheesh.

  4. Dan

    I really want a catcher that can HIT, I want 8 guys in the lineup every day with an OBP of at least .320, and I’d like to flip Cordero for something useful. He’s been very good, but $12 million for 65 innings pitched is complete madness.

  5. WORLD

    I was told by a former major league manager that unless the pitcher is Sandy Koufax or something akin to His Leftness, you don’t trade an solid everyday player for a pitcher. It sounded a little strange to me but it has gradually made sense. How would Josh Hamilton look in left for the Reds right about now? He’s pretty much what you need and even though E.V. is a good pitcher, look what can happen to a hurler at a moments notice. He may never take the mound again.

    I think you can develop pitching- there are lots of young men who can early on bring it in the low 90’s and who can be coached and trained to throw even harder. Indeed, speed need not be the sole measure of the pitcher as a young man can be successful by mentors teaching the art of pitching, including adding pitches, changing speeds, and developing good control.

    That being said, I don’t think you can teach what Josh Hamilton offers. Someone whose performance can simply drop the jaws of his fellows in awe are very rare and must be vouchsafed in your system.

    You need a dynamic leftfielder. It’s a shame you shipped the last one out.

  6. wanderinredsfan

    @WORLD:
    Seriously?!? You’re bringing up Hamilton?!? Why not bring back Trevor Hoffman?!? Geez.
    Regarding your argument: Hamilton is just as injury flawed as Volquez, and you also forgot to mention the addition of Danny Ray Herrera, who has pitched magnificently thus far. Furthermore, I am tired of Hamilton’s and I much prefer a Reds squad without him and his crutches (Narron and religion) mucking up the grand past-time. Plus, outfield is not the most glaring problem on this team going forward. Our problems are at positions 1, 2, 6, and management.

  7. WORLD

    wanderinredsfan: @WORLD:Seriously?!? You’re bringing up Hamilton?!? Why not bring back Trevor Hoffman?!? Geez.Regarding your argument: Hamilton is just as injury flawed as Volquez, and you also forgot to mention the addition of Danny Ray Herrera, who has pitched magnificently thus far. Furthermore, I am tired of Hamilton’s and I much prefer a Reds squad without him and his crutches (Narron and religion) mucking up the grand past-time. Plus, outfield is not the most glaring problem on this team going forward. Our problems are at positions 1, 2, 6, and management.

    As Jack Benny often said, “Well!”

    First of all, I take offense at your statement that Hamilton’s religious beliefs are a “crutch.” I’ve met Josh and he seems 100% genuine about his love of God. But enough said about that.

    With regard to the rest of your post, the Reds really do not have significant problems at catcher and shortstop. Janish is a tremendous fielder and at #8 in the lineup, he would be a plus for the Reds. As for receiving, you had two catchers who could hit but only one who could really catch. The young man should be given the full time job. Ruiz of the Phillies didn’t hit much at first but showed improvement when he was given the full time job. Hanigan has showed some abioity with the stick and could get better with some confidence that the job is his.

    For pitching, well…….you have a lot of potential. A BIG problem is that Big Bob’s payroll is clogged with an overpaid closer. I doubt you could get anyone to take him off your hands but I am sure the Reds will try. Clearing some salary space would allow the Reds to augment their promising youngsters with a #1 with a track record. How about Tim Hudson heading up the staff? That would look super.

    And you still need that stud in left field. Yonder’s development will or lack of the same will dictate whether Votto moves to left but the draft pick’s future is still not a sure thing. Gomes seems up to keeping the chair warm until that scenario takes place.

    At the end of the day, the Reds need some stars, some studs. Votto can’t do it by himself. Foster needed a Griffey and a Morgan. Look at the Phillies lineup and see how they put it together and youu’ll have a clue as to what Walt J. needs to do in the next couple seasons. You need more stars with some ability to put fannies in the seats at GABP. Some names. Rolen instead of E.E. is a start.

    As for Dusty Baker, he is a lame duck. Bob C. is not going to renew his contract, no matter what happens next year. There is too much discontent throughout the organization even if this doesn’t end up in the newspaper.

    The outlook is rosy but Walt J. has to come through. He’s the man who is under the spotlight now.

  8. wanderinredsfan

    @WORLD:
    Re. Hamilton: Sorry to offend, but it’s a personal opinion. Again, “enough said about that.”

    Re. the rest of your reply: I just don’t see how left-field is the most crucial position of need, and thusly, I just don’t understand the lament of Hamilton’s departure…two-seasons later.

    I still contend that our biggest weaknesses are at SS, C, and starting pitching. Sure Janish is slick on the defense, but the guy really needs to improve dramatically at the plate to become a positive. As for catcher, I like Hanigan’s game a lot, but I wonder if he can muster full-time duty behind the plate. We need insurance, and Corky Miller will not cut it. Lastly, we could use a number one quality starter if we are going to make a serious run. I’m not as concerned about this position as the other two, because I still hold out hope that either Bailey or Cueto will develop into one, or that Harang will regain his ’06-’07 form…or better.

    I’m completely confident that our options in LF (Gomes, Nix, Dickerson, Heisey, or other Free Agent) will be at least league-average for the position. Of course, this is dependent on Baker making the right decision during lineup construction…..so, perhaps I should be more concerned. Wouldn’t it be special to see Taveras in CF and Drew Sutton in LF come opening day? 😆

  9. doktor

    @World:

    “As for Dusty Baker, he is a lame duck. Bob C. is not going to renew his contract, no matter what happens next year. There is too much discontent throughout the organization even if this doesn’t end up in the newspaper.”

    While thats nice info to share and if true, it does not help for 2010 when some good managing with a productive off-season moves, could have the reds contending in NL Central. As like others, I have no trust in Dusty to be able to work the pieces effectively. My fear is the 2010 Reds somehow make progress, almost contend, in spite of Dusty(85 wins) and Castellini gives Baker another 3 year deal to “be here and build for the long haul”, then tells Walt for 2011 to re-up Rolen for 3 years and some other pricey vet moves(trade young talent)to have it fall apart and set the organization back.

    I know, its a lot of pessimism but thats what i worry about.

  10. doktor

    @wanderinredsfan: Wanderinredsfan, even if the Reds did not make any move at SS during offseason, i would still think that overall for the Reds, SS would be an improvement with Janish vs Gonzo, regardless if Janish hits below average for SS.
    In about same # of innings for the Reds, 600.1 for janish, 587.1 for Agon, Janish clearly fielded much better and hit slightly better(i know, not saying much, but it was better 😀 ). And in turn, his defense would help the starters go deeper into games as previous ground ball singles are turned into outs, making for shorter innings, fewer pitches and so forth.

  11. wanderinredsfan

    @doktor: I agree, Janish is a vast improvement over AGon or Hairston or Rosales or Keppinger or (insert inept defensive journeyman here). Defensively, he’s a joy to behold, but offensively he’s a ‘black hole’ where hits go to die. He needs to improve drastically, just to become slightly below-average offensively.

  12. Dan

    Janish is sort of like Adam Dunn, except totally in reverse. Both are so good at one half of the game… and so bad at the other.

  13. Matt WI

    wanderinredsfan: @WORLD: I much prefer a Reds squad without him and his crutches (Narron and religion) mucking up the grand past-time.

    Yeah, I hate it when somebody believes in a higher power, uses a support system to overcome addiction, and tries to win the Triple Crown. An abomination I say, a plague on his house!:wink:

  14. Dan

    Hey, let’s have a “Buy Low” thread. Who do you think the Reds should target this offseason? Who’s undervalued by their current team (due to poor performance, or being blocked by someone better)?

    I’ll start with this:

    Catcher J.R. Towles of Houston.

    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/T/Justin-Towles.shtml

    Towles (minors) – .298/.389/.472
    Towles (majors) – .183/.286/.307

    The guy has been TERRIBLE in the majors so far, but he’s still pretty young (26 on Opening Day). Also, the Astros used their 1st round pick a year ago on Jason Castro, a catcher, so now he’s the stud on the way.

    I’d take a shot at acquiring Towles, if he could be had cheaply, and throw him in the mix. He looks like he’s in a classic “buy low” situation to me.

    He’d also be cheap and under team control for like 5 more years, which would be great if he turns things around.

    I think a Hanigan/Towles pairing at C could be pretty good.

    Thoughts?

    Any other “buy low” candidates out there?

  15. preach

    I like Towels. What about Zobrist of the Rays or one of their other middle infielders?

  16. Drew Nelson

    What makes anyone believe that should the Reds somehow either win the division or say finish 2nd that Dusty wouldn’t be resigned?

  17. al

    it’s currently 12-5 bad guys in the afl after a grandslam probably put this one out of reach.

    3 reds farmhands pitched today:

    leake, 2ip, 4h, 0er
    boxberger, 2ip, 2h, 1er
    ondrusek, .2 ip, 6h, 5er

    leake did not have dominant stuff, but worked his way out of a jam.

    boxberger started out strong but lost velocity in his second inning and gave up an rbi double after a walk.

    ondrusek threw hard, but only threw fastballs with little movement and got destroyed.

    reds position players faired a little better.

    after 5 innings:
    heisey is 2/3, 2b, 2r
    cozart is 1/3, r
    alonso, 1/2, bb, hr, 2rbi