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Let’s work out the Major League Batting Average Leaders by first letter of the player’s last name, working through the alphabet, A-Z. Remember, there is no X, and this list is of all major leaguers, not just the Reds.

We have to put a qualifier here since it’s a rate stat: the player needs to have at least 3000 plate appeareances, which is essentially 5 full-time seasons. However, keep in mind that could also be 10 part-time seasons. One exception for the qualifier: the letter Q is lowered to 1000 plate appearances due to the lack of Q’s that have played.

There are some surprises….

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59 Responses

  1. brublejr

    Ted Williams
    Cobb
    Pujols
    Yaz
    Hornsby
    Ruth
    Musial
    Susuki
    Joe Dimaggio
    Foxx
    Jeter
    Vaughan
    Anson

  2. brublejr

    I change my S guess to Speaker…

  3. brublejr

    I’ll go with Chase Utley for U…I think he has 3,000 AB’s in now.

  4. brublejr

    I’ll take a shot in the dark on “O” and say Mag Ordonez…

  5. brublejr

    3,000 AB’s make it quite a bit tougher than say 5,000, but it does make it very interesting…

    Jason, good call on Joe Jackson, completely forgot about him somehow…same with Gehrig, I can’t believe I forgot to put him in there.

  6. JasonL

    O could maybe be Olerud also. Not sure which player as a higher BA

  7. brublejr

    @Jeff: Brett is higher than Bonds for sure, but not sure if he tops the B’s…

  8. Jeff

    I’m also going to guess Rogers Hornsby, Don Mattingly, Rod Carew and Tony Gwynn (if Cobb and Gehrig aren’t right, which they probably are).

  9. Steve Price

    So far….in other segments, most of the winners were “modern” winners; that is, had to play past 1900, and I’ll stay consistent with that….if someone guesses a pre-1900 player, we’ll acknowledge, but keep it open. If a player played in the 1890’s, but lasted until the 1900’s, he’ll be considered modern…

    Oh, also…I’m glad this is a discussion board…you guys have already found one that I missed…

    A-OPEN (Cap Anson is pre-1900 with .333)
    B-
    C–Ty Cobb with .366
    D–
    E–
    F–
    G–Lou Gehrig with .340
    H–Rogers Hornsby with .359
    I–
    J–Joe Jackson with .356
    K–
    L–
    M–Stan Musial has modern record of .331 (John McGraw has overall record of .334)
    N–
    O–
    P–Albert Pujols with .334
    Q–
    R–Babe Ruth with .342
    S–Tris Speaker with .345
    T–
    U–Chase Utley with .,296
    V–Arky Vaughan with .318
    W–Ted Williams with .344
    X–There is no X
    Y–
    Z–

    For other guesses that were close….
    Jimmie Fox is second with .325
    Derek Jeter is second with .317
    Magglio Ordonez is fourth with .312
    Ichiro Suzuki is sixth at .333
    Carl Yastrzemski is fifth with .285
    Joe DiMaggio is third with .325
    Bonds father and son weren’t high enough to get my attention (Barry is .298)
    John Olerud is not in the top five with .295
    George Brett is not in the top with .305
    Wade Boggs is modern day second, fourth all time with .308
    Don Mattingly did not make the cut.
    Rod Carew is third with .328
    Tony Gwynn is second with .338

  10. brublejr

    How about:

    Aaron
    Young, Michael
    Frisch
    Lajoie

  11. brublejr

    Q is probably someone crazy like Rob Quinlinn or something like that…

  12. brublejr

    I change my A guess to Richie Ashburn…

  13. Steve Price

    Nap Lajoie is the L with .338

    Hank Aaron is 5th with .305
    Richie Ashburn is third with .308
    Frankie Frisch is third with .316
    Michael Young is a great guess..but seocnd with .302
    Q is not Robb Quinlan, but won’t easy…but not as hard as you may think

  14. brublejr

    I is probably an Irwin…
    Q is probably a Quinn…

  15. Steve Price

    Al Kaline is not the K

    Brublejr…I know that was in jest, but Q is closer than you may think; and former Red Charlie Irwin is fourth with .267.

    I need more info on the Q….

  16. JasonL

    .267 is fourth? That’s sad.

    How about somebody like Ibanez for “I”, then?

  17. Steve Price

    I is Raul Ibanez with .285

    A-
    B-
    C–Ty Cobb with .366
    D–
    E–
    F–
    G–Lou Gehrig with .340
    H–Rogers Hornsby with .359
    I–
    J–Joe Jackson with .356
    K–
    L–Nap Lajoie with .338
    M–Stan Musial with .331 (John McGraw overall with .334)
    N–
    O–
    P–Albert Pujols with .334
    Q–
    R–Babe Ruth with .342
    S–Tris Speaker with .345
    T–
    U–Chase Utley with .,296
    V–Arky Vaughan with .318
    W–Ted Williams with .344
    X–There is no X
    Y–
    Z–

  18. Steve Price

    Oh…about, the Q—Robb Quinlan is 2nd with .281.

    Q—is Mark Quinn with .282.

  19. Steve Price

    I should have updated this better

    A-
    B-
    C–Ty Cobb with .366
    D–
    E–
    F–
    G–Lou Gehrig with .340
    H–Rogers Hornsby with .359
    I–Raul Ibanez with .295
    J–Joe Jackson with .356
    K–
    L–Nap Lajoie with .338
    M–Stan Musial with .331 (John McGraw overall with .334)
    N–
    O–
    P–Albert Pujols with .334
    Q–Mark Quinn with .282
    R–Babe Ruth with .342
    S–Tris Speaker with .345
    T–
    U–Chase Utley with .,296
    V–Arky Vaughan with .318
    W–Ted Williams with .344
    X–There is no X
    Y–
    Z–

  20. brublejr

    Ryan Zimmerman probably doesn’t have 3,000 Ab’s in does he?

  21. JasonL

    I am going to take a totally wild guess here: Todd Zeile. Low average, but how many Zs are there, really, anyway?

  22. Steve Price

    No Zeile, not Ryan Zimmerman, not Thomas

  23. brublejr

    How bout Jim Eisenreich, he was a decent average hitter…

  24. Steve Price

    Jim Eisenreich is 2nd with .290

  25. brublejr

    Dang, I can get them close but can’t get the big one…

  26. per14

    Is D DiMaggio? Seems like there is someone else.

  27. per14

    The only Ts I can think of is Pie Traynor and Bill Terry. Terry hit .400 one year; he must have a high career average.

  28. Steve Price

    Earl Averill is the A winner with .318 modern day record; Cap Anson holds all-time record with .333

    Ross Youngs holds the Y record with .322

    Lefty O’Doul holds the O record with .349.

    Bill Terry holds the T record with .341

    Pie Traynor is third on T list with .320

    Joe DiMaggio is third on D list with .325.

    Updated Chart:

    A-Earl Averill with .318 (Cap Anson all-time with .333)
    B-
    C–Ty Cobb with .366
    D–
    E–
    F–
    G–Lou Gehrig with .340
    H–Rogers Hornsby with .359
    I–Raul Ibanez with .285
    J–Joe Jackson with .356
    K–
    L–Nap Lajoie with .338
    M–Stan Musial with .331 (John McGraw overall with .334)
    N–
    O–Lefty O’Doul with .349
    P–Albert Pujols with .334
    Q–Mark Quinn with .282
    R–Babe Ruth with .342
    S–Tris Speaker with .345
    T–Bill Terry with .341
    U–Chase Utley with .,296
    V–Arky Vaughan with .318
    W–Ted Williams with .344
    X–There is no X
    Y–Ross Youngs with .322
    Z–

    Five letters left….

  29. brublejr

    This list may be the hardest one yet…

  30. per14

    So D isn’t Dimaggio? The only other one I can think of is Delahanty but he’s an old-timer.

  31. Steve Price

    Big Ed Delahanty is the D…his career straddled 1900, and he hit just as well after 1900 as before…he last played in 1903 before his death. His career average is .346. Former Red “Turkey Mike” Donlin was second with .333.

    The last few may be tough…there’s still five more (I miscounted earlier)…most of the others are now early in the 20th Century, but not all…there’s at least one famous name still listed; the others may be a bit more obscure…two of the five are Hall of Famers.

  32. brublejr

    I bet Delahanty is it…
    another old timer is Dan Brouthers, he could be the B…

  33. Steve Price

    Willie Keeler is the K with an average of .341.

    Dan Brouthers is the all-time B leader with .342, in a virtual tie with another old timer Pete Browning, also .342. We’re going to leave B open since these are pre-1900 players. Who’s the “modern day” record holder?

  34. brublejr

    good one Jason…that could be it

  35. brublejr

    Is the E an Evans or an Ewing or something like that…other than that I am tapped out on the other letters…

  36. Steve Price

    Not Evans,not Ewing, not Eckstein.

    All-time leader is pre-1900.

    Modern leader is a recent player.

  37. brublejr

    I’m out of guesses for them all…good luck to everyone else 🙂

  38. Steve

    Frankie Frisch? I think he’s ahead of Curt Flood, who would be my second choice.

  39. Steve Price

    Jim Edmonds is third at .285

    Frankie Frisch is third at .316.

    Curt Flood is .293 and not in the running.

    F will be tough…I had never heard of the guy and he’s a modern era player, though not recent…a former Tiger….his outfield teammates were better known–they’re both Hall of Famers…

  40. Steve Price

    Darin Erstad would be about fifth at .282

  41. KY Chip

    B – Wade Boggs, .328
    E – Mike Easler, .293
    F – Bob Fothergill, .325
    N – Bob Nieman, .295
    Z – Heinie Zimmerman, .295

  42. Steve Price

    KY Chip has gotten them all but one…, but we’re going to call it here because I think I know why the B answer was not selected….

    Jesse Burkett is the B winner at .338; he predominantly played in the 1890’s (pre-modern era) and had his best seasons then. However, he did play regularly through 1905, so he’s the appropriate B winner.

    Heinie Zimmerman was banned from baseball for allegedly betting on games.

    Fothergill played with Ty Cobb and Harry Heileman in Detroit.

    Nieman was signed by the Reds out of college, but never played for them. A journeyman outfielder, he played for eight other teams, rarely playing regularly.

    Easler rarely played regularly, too…

    the whole list:

    A-Earl Averill with .318 (Cap Anson all-time with .333)
    B-Jesse Burkett with .338 (Dan Brouthers all-time with .342)
    C–Ty Cobb with .366
    D–Ed Delahanty with .346
    E–Mike Easler with .293
    F–Bob Fothergill with .325
    G–Lou Gehrig with .340
    H–Rogers Hornsby with .359
    I–Raul Ibanez with .285
    J–Joe Jackson with .356
    K–Willie Keeler with .341
    L–Nap Lajoie with .338
    M–Stan Musial with .331 (John McGraw overall with .334)
    N–Bob Nieman with .295
    O–Lefty O’Doul with .349
    P–Albert Pujols with .334
    Q–Mark Quinn with .282
    R–Babe Ruth with .342
    S–Tris Speaker with .345
    T–Bill Terry with .341
    U–Chase Utley with .296
    V–Arky Vaughan with .318
    W–Ted Williams with .344
    X–There is no X
    Y–Ross Youngs with .322
    Z–Heinie Zimmerman with .295

  43. hoosierdad

    This little exercise was just another reason why I love this website! You guys are the best. I didn’t get a chance to get in on this earlier (hey, somebody has to work hard all day!), but loved just reading the back and forth of all the comments. Thanks for making my day!

  44. preach

    Maybe Janish should change his name to Xanish, pronounced the same way, and lay claim to every hitting and pitching title for his initial.