Keep having fun with the strikeout leader post below, but it’s time to discuss some post-season awards. Recently, Mark Sheldon posted his award winners for the Reds in various categories.

Let’s talk about each category, and when I get time, I’ll put polls in the sidebar to vote on each one. We need a good name for the awards, though; The Redleg Nation Awards isn’t cutting it. Perhaps “The Natties”? 🙂

Okay, here are the categories:

–Reds MVP
–Most Outstanding Pitcher
–Rookie of the Year
–Good Guy Award
–Biggest Surprise
–Biggest Disappointment

Let’s hear your nominees….

92 Responses

  1. per14

    MVP: Has to be Votto even with the missed time.
    MOP: Arroyo, although Cordero had a pretty fine year
    ROY: Hanigan?
    Good Guy: Votto
    Biggest Surprise: Johnny Gomes!!!!
    Biggest Disappointment: Taveras of course. And I hate to say it, but Bruce was somewhat of a disappointment. Both his BA and OBP were down from last year and I never expected that.

  2. Nathan

    I’ll try my hand at this:

    –Reds MVP
    Could it be anyone else then Joey Votto? The Reds certainly did better with him in the lineup.

    –Most Outstanding Pitcher
    Bronson Arroyo. After a pretty major hiccup in the middle of the year he ended up with a 3.84 ERA and 220 IP is very valuable.

    –Rookie of the Year
    Hannigan was a rookie, right? If so I have to go with him.

    –Good Guy Award
    Not exactly sure what the criteria is for this one, but the guy who consistantly makes me smile is Brandon Phillips. The guy is just plain fun to watch.

    –Biggest Surprise
    Tie between Johnny Gomes and Homer Bailey.

    –Biggest Disappointment
    Willy T. I didn’t expect greatness, but I didn’t expect what we got either.

  3. GreatRedLegsFan

    Reds MVP: Tie Joey Votto/Brandon Phillips

    Most Outstanding Pitcher: Tie Bronson Arroyo/Nick Masset

    Rookie of the Year: Drew Stubbs

    Good Guy Award & Biggest Surprise: Johnny Gomes

    Biggest Disappointment: Tie Willy Taveras/Aaron Harang

  4. th4433

    Reds MVP
    Joey Votto
    Most Outstanding Pitcher
    Bronson Arroyo
    Rookie of the Year
    Drew Stubbs (Even though he was only there a little over a month)
    Good Guy Award
    Joey Votto
    Biggest Surprise
    Jonny Gomes
    Biggest Disappointment
    Willy Taveras

  5. adaircam4

    MVP: Votto..the guy can rake
    MOP: Arroyo..be great if he could be more consistent, but it is what it is
    ROY: Hanigan..he is a weapon behind the plate, too bad Dusty doesn’t see it.
    Good Guy: Gomes..he just likes to play and that’s infectious
    Biggest surprise: Homer..I think he has turned the corner, no thanks to Dick Pole
    Biggest Disappointment: I would say Tavaras, but I didn’t expect much out of him anyway. I guess Bruce, but I still believe in him and think he is going to be very good.

  6. BigRedMike

    MVP Votto
    Pitcher none
    Rookie Stubbs
    Surprise Bailey
    Dissapointment Dickerson
    Good Guy Janish

    Taveras does not even qualify as a dissapointment. He is terrible and should have never been signed, should never have played, and should not be on the team.

  7. Sultan of Swaff

    How ’bout the TIO’s? That is, the “Toiling in Obscurity” Awards.
    One thing I know is the award should be made of scrap metal, you know, in the absence of any real hardware.

  8. Dan

    –Reds MVP – Votto
    –Most Outstanding Pitcher – Arroyo
    –Rookie of the Year – Hanigan
    –Good Guy Award – Dickerson
    –Biggest Surprise – Votto (didn’t know he was THIS good!)
    –Biggest Disappointment – Willy

  9. Dan

    @BigRedMike: How on earth is Dickerson a disappointment? I’ll take every guy with strong defense and a .370 OBP I can get.

    The only thing disappointing about him were his injuries, and that his playing time was less than it should’ve been (thank you Dusty for not playing him, and Jocketty for paying $6.25 million for a player who’s clearly worse than Dickerson).

  10. RedStalk

    –Reds MVP: For now and the forseable future, it’s Vottomatic.
    –Most Outstanding Pitcher: Arroyo had a fantastic second half, though Cordero has a solid year when he wasn’t being run out for six consecutive nights. It’s also not his fault we’re overpaying him.
    –Rookie of the Year: Hanigan was decent, but struggled a good bit in the second half. Stubbs in the outfield is nigh poetic, and offensively he did a satsifactory job, so I’ve gotta go with him.
    –Good Guy Award: Not sure if you mean in the clubhosue or in the community. If it’s the later, gotta go with Harang. Does any number of things off the field.
    –Biggest Surprise: Homer’s emergence in the last few months. I had just about written this guy off as trade bait.
    –Biggest Disappointment: That the only coach they fired was Dick Pole.

  11. per14

    Yeah, I’d give the TIO to Dickerson. Great OBP. Patient hitter. Good defensive CFer. Makes almost nothing. But, hey!, Willy Taveras was available.

  12. jake

    Votto–Reds MVP
    Masset–Most Outstanding Pitcher
    Bailey(if considered a rookie) or Stubbs–Rookie of the Year
    Harang–Good Guy Award
    Gomes, Rolen–Biggest Surprise
    BP, Bruce–Biggest Disappointment

    taveras doesn’t qualify in my eyes because just signing him was disappointing. We got what was projected out of him.

  13. Matt WI

    @BigRedMike: No pitcher was outstanding? Arroyo doesn’t cut it? Fine, I can see that argument. How about Nick Masset? Athur Rhodes? That’s a hard nosed approach to say no pitcher was deserving of an imaginary award. And Ditto on Dan’s comments regarding Dickerson.

    MVP- Votto
    MOP- Masset
    ROY- Hannigan
    GGA- Gomes
    Surprise- Stubbs flashing some power
    Dissapointment- Dusty Baker

  14. SamSpond

    –Reds MVP – Joey Votto
    –Most Outstanding Pitcher – Nick Masset
    –Rookie of the Year – Drew Stubbs
    –Good Guy Award – BP
    –Biggest Surprise – Danny Herrera and Johnny Gomes
    –Biggest Disappointment – Taveras(Although I never expected much from the start)

  15. Steve

    MVP – Scott Rolen – his presence turned the team around as has been credited by several players including Phillips and Votto (Obviously Votto is the right answer, I just wanted to offer a second choice)

    MOP – Coco Cordero – narrowly over Arroyo because he was consistent all year. Narrowly over Rhodes and Masset just because the closer role is more pressure. Narrowly over Paul Janish because… 😉

    ROY – (tie) Ryan Hanigan and Drew Stubbs – Hanigan for the great season-long effort, Stubbs for his burst of excellence at the end

    GGA – Aaron Harang – for his extensive charity work. Close second Chris Dickerson for his promotion of recycling at the ballpark and beyond.

    Surprise – Homer Bailey – Hard to believe he only pitched twice before July, given up for failure as recently as mid-August (7.53 ERA) and then, six weeks of Cy Young quality SP? Who’d a thunk it?

    Disappointment – Dusty Baker – Taveras was terrible, but I expected that. Baker’s truly disastrous lineups with WT at the top were a huge disappointment to me given our experience with Corey Patterson in 2008. I thought he might have learned…

  16. David

    MVP – Phillips
    MOP – Cordero
    ROY – Stubbs
    GGA – Votto
    Suprise – Massett
    Dissapointment – Bruce

  17. jello

    Awards name- The Dustys

    MVP- Votto
    MOP-Arroyo
    ROY- Hanigan
    GGA- Harang? Not sure of the criteria
    Surprise- Homer Bailey
    Disappointment- Willy Taveras

  18. broadwaydave

    MVP-Votto
    MOP-Masset
    Rookie-Bailey
    Good Guy-Who cares?
    Surprise-that we actually traded for a guy who helped us, Scott Rolen
    Disappointment-that Dusty Baker still has a job

  19. th4433

    You cant label a guy that missed two months as an award winner (Bruce). You dont know what could have happened during those two months.

  20. SealBeach

    Reds MVP

    Votto

    –Most Outstanding Pitcher

    Its Arroyo. Led the starters in almost every positive catagory. Had a few horrendous starts early in the year that really skewed his numbers. He was like gold in the 2nd half, and there have to be clubs that are kicking themselves for not picking him up.

    –Rookie of the Year

    Theres really only 4 contenders here: Hanigan, Dickerson, Stubbs, Fischer. I say Stubbs because his arrival coincided so nicely with a Reds surge.

    –Good Guy Award

    I have no idea how you decide such a thing. I guess its Harang.

    –Biggest Surprise

    Has to be Stubbs. He hit and for alot more power than anyone expected. He wasnt fazed at all from day 1.

    Some people are saying Gomes, but he had had success at this level previously. Everyone knew he could hammer the ball.

    –Biggest Disappointment

    Some people here are saying Taveras. if youre disappointed in his performance then you really overestimated this guys ability.

    I’d like to say Burton, because he’s capable of so much more. It was Bailey until a light bulb went off in his head in August.

    Ultimately, i’ll go with Encarnacion. He got hurt in spring training and was almost useless while he was here and was unable to build on last years success.

  21. Dan

    th4433: You cant label a guy that missed two months as an award winner (Bruce).You dont know what could have happened during those two months.

    Sure you can, if you want. Jay Bruce played about 4 months, and he batted .223, and had an .303 OBP. Based on the talent he has and the expectations for him, that’s pretty dang disappointing.

  22. Steve Price

    MVP–Joey Votto–there’s not anyone else in his class this year

    MOP–Have to go with Bronson Arroyo for his finish. Stats are a funny thing–if he had his bad streak in the middle of the season rather than the beginning many would not have known how bad he was at the time. Arthur Rhodes is second in my mind.

    Rookie–Ryan Hanigan…with Daniel Ray Herrera very close…if Herrera had been used in higher leverage situations I would have put him here.

    Good Guy–I’m not certain how we would have a clue…I tend to go with Paul Janish who sat two-thirds of the year watching an inferior player play ahead of him

    Surprise–Jonny Gomes, runner up Nick Masset

    Disappointment–Edinson Volquez and Jay Bruce–I thought both would have declines from last year, but both were worse than I expected

    Not listed, but necessary award—Most improved–Homer Bailey–I’ve been on his bandwagon all year…he needed the right opportunities to build his confidence…he finally got them…he’ll be a horse for years…

  23. Andy

    @Dan:

    I don’t think you can label Bruce a disappointment this season. His batting average wasn’t great, but his power numbers were pretty good. Besides, he missed a fair amount of time this year.

    He had a great September when he came back from the injury, he played solid defense all season, plus is only 22!!!! His batting average was .223 but his OPB was 80 points higher.

    I know he needed to have a great year for this team to be competitive, but honestly, what more can you expect from someone that young?

    All things considered, I think he had a decent year.

    My biggest disappointment is the fact that Baker still has a job and that D**** W******* was traded. (Kidding on the second one)

  24. brublejr

    MVP: Votto
    Pitcher: Arroyo
    ROY: Hanigan/Stubbs (Tie)
    Good Guy: Janish
    Surprise: Gomes/Masset (Tie)
    Disappointment: Harang

    The reasoning of Harang over Taveras or Gonzo, is that I expected Harang to be good, but the other two I expected to be crappy therefore they didn’t disappoint. 😈

  25. Dan

    I’m starting to re-think my vote for biggest disappointment…

    Taveras turned out far worse than I expected he’d be (and I didn’t expect a whole lot… but I figured w/ his speed and regular playing time he could at least muster something like .270/.330/.330… which is still bad… but he far exceeded my expectations of his badness…)

    But more importantly, I think, I was unbelievably disappointed in the guys that (frighteningly) mattered most:

    –Dusty – So off-the-charts stubborn and closed to new information that he played Taveras and Gonzalez — and batted them just ahead of our best hitter, Votto, as much as he could — and he just never changed until he was FORCED to.

    –Jocketty and Castellini – First, they signed Taveras to a TWO-year deal with a guaranteed 75% raise for year 2, even after he batted .251/.308/.296 in Colorado in 2007… They spent $6.25 million dollars to actively make CF WORSE for the Reds (Dickerson was a “bird in hand” and had shown great promise, some pop in his bat, and good defense at the end of 2007). They were so risk-averse that instead of taking possible goodness (Dickerson) they went for known badness (Taveras). Unreal decision-making, and we stupid bloggers in our mom’s basements called them on it even at the time.

    Then, at the trade deadline, they exhibited delusional thinking, and were the only team with a losing record to trade young guys for an old guy. We traded 11 cost-controlled years of Roenicke and Stewart for one $11 million year of Scott Rolen. To me that is short-sighted and delusional to a criminal degree… and I even like Scott Rolen!

    So yeah… that’s actually a lot more disappointing to me than Taveras hitting .240 without power instead of .270 without power. Management’s decision-making, top-to-bottom. It’s robbed me of much hope for the near future, b/c I know there will be more of the same to come.

  26. brublejr

    Bailey had the biggest turnaround of anybody but I don’t consider it a surprise, I thought he was capable of doing what he was doing over the last two months.

  27. Dan

    Random aside: Do you think there’s anyone in the front office who ever checks in at redlegnation.com to check the pulse of the Nation? There must be someone, right?

    I wonder if they generally view us as being unusually thoughtful and insightful for fans… or as the lunatic fringe?

    Probably some of both. 8)

  28. brublejr

    Some other awards to throw out there:

    Best move of the year: Not trading Bailey

    Worst move of the year: Signing Willy (duh)

    Best Callup: Gomes (although he should have never been down in the first place)

    Best waiver wire move: Picking up Justin Lehr

    Minor league players of the year:
    Position Player: Heisey (HM: Fransisco, Frazier)
    Pitcher: Wood (HM: Stewart [until he was traded])

    Best trade of the year: Trading Gonzalez away, and not giving management the chance of picking up his option. (HM: Hopper for Miller, Manual for Balentien)

    Worst trade of the year: Trading Zach Stewart (Getting Rolen makes the team better in the short run, but losing Roenicke and Stewart hurt the team in the long run). (HM: Hernandez[trading away a couple solid prospects])

  29. jason1972

    –Reds MVP
    Joey Votto – This team is much better when he plays.

    –Most Outstanding Pitcher
    Bronson Arroyo – One of the best half-seasons of pitching I have seen since Jack Armstrong in 1990.

    –Rookie of the Year
    Homer Bailey – From bust to stud

    –Good Guy Award
    Aaron Harang – Great local charity work

    –Biggest Surprise
    Johnny Gomes

    –Biggest Disappointment
    Dusty Baker – Obvious reasons

  30. broadwaydave

    i think it was a GREAT trade. we get proven leadership, good defense and a hell of a hitter. we get rid of a major defensive liability, a mid-level (maybe) reliever and a minor league prospect who hasn’t done squat in the majors yet. hell, his arm may fall off next year. i wish i could look into the crystal ball some of you guys seem to have.

    brublejr: Worst trade of the year: Trading Zach Stewart (Getting Rolen makes the team better in the short run, but losing Roenicke and Stewart hurt the team in the long run). (HM: Hernandez[trading away a couple solid prospects])

  31. Dan

    broadwaydave: i think it was a GREAT trade.we get proven leadership, good defense and a hell of a hitter.we get rid of a major defensive liability, a mid-level (maybe) reliever and a minor league prospect who hasn’t done squat in the majors yet.hell, his arm may fall off next year.i wish i could look into the crystal ball some of you guys seem to have.

    And you know we only got Rolen for ONE year (not counting the last 2 months of 2009, since that was basically a lost season already), right? That’s a HUGE part of my beef with the deal.

    Secondly, with this philosophy, what keeps you from making deal after deal like this (2 or 3 prospects for 1 major leaguer) and then eventually have a barren minor league system? Do you think it would be a good move to go that far?

  32. brublejr

    @broadwaydave: As you may have noticed I said “Zach Stewart”…I had no problem with Rolen for EE & Roenicke but throwing Stewart away was the thing I hated (and still do). He might not ever be a quality major leaguer but this kind of shortsightedness is what has killed this franchise. They don’t look at the big picture, just the very very short immediate future.

  33. broadwaydave

    @Dan: yes, i understand we have rolen signed for only one more year. here’s why i think he’s worth it: somebody has to teach these kids how to play winning baseball. dusty baker sure as hell cannot do it. from what i know of scott rolen personally he is all about baseball and playing it the right way, something this organization is in dire need of. as for the contract situation, keep in mind that the blue jays paid him for the rest of this year and we are only on the hook for about $7 million next year because we got rid of encarnacion’s contract.

    i agree with your second point. a deal like this shouldn’t be made just to make a deal. i happen to think that this was a good deal. think about it. we get rid of encarnacion (his defense and his contract), we give up roenicke (who ain’t no kid, if he was all that he would never have taken as long as he did to reach the majors) who got shelled in the american league. so really the only thing of value we lost is stewart, who’s proven nothing yet. i would also argue that we have an abundance of young starting pitching. bailey will be a stud for years to come, volquez is due back with a brand new arm in august, matt maloney has proven that he deserves a look next spring, travis wood was one of the best pitchers in all the minor leagues and don’t forget about mike leake, who will be ready before you know it.

    to conclude, it is my belief that the minor league system should be used to support the major league club. when a good deal comes along, prospects should be dealt. i believe the rolen deal was a good deal.

  34. broadwaydave

    @brublejr: i would agree with you, except for one thing. our starting pitching is in the best shape it’s been in for probably 20 years, maybe ever. harang, arroyo, bailey, cueto and maloney looks pretty strong for next year. then we get volquez back with a brand new arm. plus, travis wood was one of the best pitchers in all the minor leagues. mike leake is on the way. for the first time in a long time, the reds actually have expendable parts, especially in the pitching area. i think it was reasonable to part with zach stewart at this point in time.

  35. mike

    –Reds MVP: Votto

    –Most Outstanding Pitcher: Arroyo

    –Rookie of the Year: Dickerson

    –Good Guy Award: Gomes

    –Biggest Surprise: Gomes

    –Biggest Disappointment: Dusty Baker

    I posted this in another thread
    MVP: Votto (runner up: Phillips)

    Most Valuable Hitter: Votto (runner up: Phillips)

    Most Valuable Defender: Janish (runner up: Bruce)

    Most Valuable Starter: Arroyo (runner up: Cueto and Harang)

    Most Valuable Reliever: Cordero (runner up: Masset)

    ROY Position Player: Dickerson (runner up: Stubbs)

    ROY Pitcher: Herrera (runner up: Fisher)

    someone going to tally all these posts?

  36. Dan

    @broadwaydave: OK, so to sum up, you’re in favor of giving away Encarnacion, 5 years of Roenicke, 6 years of Stewart, and $7 million, to get Rolen to “teach these kids how to play winning baseball” for 1 year? Do I have that right?

  37. Jeff

    Reds MVP: Joey Votto

    Most Outstanding Pitcher: Bronson Arroyo

    Rookie of the Year: Drew Stubbs

    Good Guy Award & Biggest Surprise: Johnny Gomes/Homer Bailey

    Biggest Disappointment: Willy Taveras

  38. broadwaydave

    @Dan: yep, that’s about right. encarnacion=$4 million of dead weight; roenicke=maybe a decent middle reliever, maybe out of baseball in 2 years; stewart=who really knows?; rolen=a legitimate change in culture, which is priceless really.

  39. Cary Loughman

    –Reds MVP Joey Votto
    –Most Outstanding Pitcher Bronson Arroyo
    –Rookie of the Year Daniel Ray Herrera
    –Good Guy Award Aaron Harang
    –Biggest Surprise Johnny Gomes
    –Biggest Disappointment Jay Bruce

  40. Dan

    broadwaydave: @Dan: yep, that’s about right.encarnacion=$4 million of dead weight; roenicke=maybe a decent middle reliever, maybe out of baseball in 2 years; stewart=who really knows?; rolen=a legitimate change in culture, which is priceless really.

    Well… OK! I could not disagree with you more strongly on the value of “leadership” and “teaching these kids how to play winning baseball” but I think we both made our cases and we’ll just have to agree to disagree!

    (And needless to say… I hope you’re right and I’m wrong!) 😮

  41. Dan

    broadwaydave: @Dan: yep, that’s about right.encarnacion=$4 million of dead weight; roenicke=maybe a decent middle reliever, maybe out of baseball in 2 years; stewart=who really knows?; rolen=a legitimate change in culture, which is priceless really.

    I will say this though… *IF* you are correct, and Rolen’s influence and leadership and winning ways is really worth 3 players and $7 million… shouldn’t we just fire all the coaches? I mean… what are they there for, if not this?

  42. broadwaydave

    @Dan: if i’m wrong, i’ll eat my share of crow i promise. i just really, really like scott rolen and what he brings to the club.

  43. BigRedMike

    Matt WI: @BigRedMike: No pitcher was outstanding? Arroyo doesn’t cut it? Fine, I can see that argument. How about Nick Masset? Athur Rhodes? That’s a hard nosed approach to say no pitcher was deserving of an imaginary award. And Ditto on Dan’s comments regarding Dickerson.MVP- VottoMOP- MassetROY- HanniganGGA- GomesSurprise- Stubbs flashing some powerDissapointment- Dusty Baker

    Arroyo and Cordero are probably the only options. I just do not like either of them and they are overpaid and limit the options the Reds have. Masset was solid as well.

    I am not dissapointed in how Dickerson played, just dissapointed in how he was used and that he seems to be injury prone.

    Dusty and Taveras

  44. Dan

    broadwaydave: @Dan: if i’m wrong, i’ll eat my share of crow i promise.i just really, really like scott rolen and what he brings to the club.

    Cool… I’ll definitely keep that in mind. 😉

    So how many wins do you think the Reds are good for next year? Do you think we’ll be a contender to win the division?

  45. mike

    Can I ask all of you listing Taveras as a disappointment why you are?

    How can someone who has been absolutely awful most of his career, someone EVERYONE KNEW SUCKED, someone who put up similar numbers this year as he did last year be a disappointment.

    We got exactly what was expected.
    Signing him was the disappointment but not his performance. His performance is exactly in line with expectations.

  46. Dan

    @mike: Mike, I, for one, expected a below average offensive player with no power at all — something like .270/.320/.330. Something in line w/ his career averages. And yes, I was ticked at the signing even expecting that (since we had Dickerson who already had more power and more on-base ability).

    I did NOT expect to see the worst regular in all of baseball at .240/.275/.285. That was a huge disappointment.

    But I did change my answer to Dusty/Walt/Castellini being the biggest disappointment to me of 2009.

  47. broadwaydave

    @Dan: i think we’re good for at least 85 if not 90 (depending on if the little things go our way or not). i don’t know if we’ll compete for division, the cards are pretty good. i do however think we could finish second and be in the wild card hunt. as for the division, i don’t see pittsburgh or houston improving, the brewers are on borrowed time and the cubs have their hands tied with this whole bankruptcy thing. i know i’m being optimistic, but like i said earlier, our starting pitching could be outstanding and that’s what it takes to win.

  48. broadwaydave

    @Dan: yes, we should fire all the coaches, starting with dusty. clean house and let uncle walt start anew.

  49. GregD

    @mike: I haven’t completed my ballot yet, but I won’t be listing Taveras as a “disappointment” because he repeated his terrible 2008 campaign.

    The biggest non-player disappointment is that the front office seemed to put together a team of “IF players”. If this player plays like he did in 2007 and IF that player can repeat 2008 and IF that player plays like he did in 2006 and IF that player plays like he did in 2005 before he was injured and missed a couple of seasons.

    If you have a team full of players expected to repeat a singular, career season you get what you saw this season.

  50. preach

    –Reds MVP: Votto

    –Most Outstanding Pitcher: Arroyo Honorable mention to Rhodes

    –Rookie of the Year: Stubbs

    –Good Guy Award: Harang/Owings

    –Biggest Surprise: Gomes

    –Biggest Disappointment: Bruce

    I was expecting far, far more out of Bruce than Willy. Harang got my vote because of the field of dreams thing he did for kids who couldn’t play regular baseball. Owings because of all of the charitable work he has been involved in and the witness of his spirituality.

  51. Jason

    -Reds MVP: Votto

    -MOP: Massett

    -ROY: Hannigan

    -GGA: Harang

    -Suprise: Bailey

    -Disappointment: Bruce

  52. WillRedsCHI

    MVP: Joey Votto
    Best Pitcher: Arroyo
    ROY: Stubbs
    Good Guy: Herrera
    Biggest Surprise: Gomes & Masset
    Biggest Disappointment: Bruce & Volquez

  53. pinson343

    –Reds MVP
    Joey Votto (runnerup Phillips)

    –Most Outstanding Pitcher
    Bronson Arroyo

    – Most Outstanding Reliever
    Francisco Cordero

    –Rookie of the Year
    Ryan Hanigan (hitter)
    Homer Bailey (pitcher)

    –Good Guy Award
    Johnny Gomes (sombrero and all)

    –Biggest Surprise
    Johnny Gomes (hitter)
    Nick Masset (pitcher)

    –Biggest Disappointment(s)
    Dusty Baker/Willy Taveras
    (without that duo we could easily have had a winning season)

    Honorable Mention:
    Arthur Rhodes
    Drew Stubbs

  54. Mark T

    MVP – Duh.

    Outstanding pitcher: I always felt good seeing Arthur Rhodes coming in. Masset too, but I tilt to Arthur.

    Rookie: Hannigan,kudos to Stubbs, but quality catchers are hard to come by.

    Good guy: Brandon Phillips is always signing autographs and builds little league parks. Pretty cool – not only that, but when there is a small crownd and he misses a pitch he wanted, you can hear him yell “F***!!!” over in Kentucky. My favorite word.

    Biggest surprise: Drew Stubbs – who knew he could hit like that?

    Biggest disappointment: Jay Bruce. Is he AAAA?

  55. David

    th4433: You cant label a guy that missed two months as an award winner (Bruce). You dont know what could have happened during those two months.

    I really don’t see any reason to exclude him. His offensive slash line .223/.303/.470 was marginally better than Alex Gonzalez’s .238/.279/.355. Our uberprospect didn’t live up to expectations and according to John Fay and his sources is far from a lock for RF next season. Think about it… at th-e time of the injury, people were wondering if it was an addition by subtraction. I’m not saying he won’t turn into everything we hope for, but this year he was a major disappointment.

  56. brublejr

    @David: That is a fair assessment, however, given his age I think he will rebound just fine. I think this was a case of the rest of the league finding a weakness in his swing/approach and exploited that many times over. I like to believe that he worked hard in his off time, which it sounds like he did from what I have read, and he found something to fix in his swing. He came back looking MUCH better at the plate, and we all hope that it carries over into next season. I attribute his season to a sophomore slump more so than a decline in his game (much like Soto of the Cubs).

  57. EKyRedsFan

    MVP: Votto – easy
    Pitcher: Arroyo – tough call, but he finished well.
    ROY: Herrera
    Good Guy: Harang
    Surprise: Gomes
    Bust: Taveras – bust doesn’t even begin to describe Willy Taveras. Biggest Disaster or Biggest Mistake should be the award.

    There should be an award for “Biggest Waste of Money” but I guess Willy can only win one award.

  58. KY Chip

    Reds MVP — Joey Votto

    Most Outstanding Pitcher — Francisco Cordero

    Rookie of the Year — Ryan Hanigan

    Good Guy Award — Aaron Harang

    Biggest Surprise — Jonny Gomes

    Biggest Disappointment — Aaron Harang (only because I expected Willy T would be awful)

  59. David

    brublejr: @David: That is a fair assessment, however, given his age I think he will rebound just fine. I think this was a case of the rest of the league finding a weakness in his swing/approach and exploited that many times over. I like to believe that he worked hard in his off time, which it sounds like he did from what I have read, and he found something to fix in his swing. He came back looking MUCH better at the plate, and we all hope that it carries over into next season. I attribute his season to a sophomore slump more so than a decline in his game (much like Soto of the Cubs).

    I don’t disagree with you at all. I think Bruce will be just fine. I compare him to Travis Snyder of the Blue Jays. I think they will have similar careers, though Bruce is the far better fielder. My analysis is based upon this season and awards for this year alone. Chone projected Bruce at .274/.334/.509 that’s a far cry from the line he had. To me huge disappointment, but for this year.

  60. Kyle

    MVP: Votto

    MOP: I guess I have to go Arroyo, ridiculous second half

    Rookie: Guessing Bailey, doesn’t qualify. I’ll say Hanigan over Stubbs. Defense was great at a premium position.

    Good Guy: I love Arroyo, but not necessarily because he is a great guy. Actually, I’m voting Arroyo narrowly over Janish (who is also very funny) and Votto.

    Surprise: I’m voting Masset who I didn’t even want to make the team. Great year, I’ll vote him narrowly over Bailey.

    Disappointment: Thankfully, Taveres (who I thought would be decent) gets the vote and I don’t have to say Micah (who I had high hopes for)

  61. Chad Dotson

    And for what it’s worth, Homer didn’t qualify as a rookie this year. That’s why he wasn’t included in the poll.

  62. Steve Price

    brublejr: I like to believe that he worked hard in his off time, which it sounds like he did from what I have read, and he found something to fix in his swing

    For the record…I thought Dusty strongly implied that Bruce didn’t work that hard while hurt, and that’s why he came back as a “defensive replacement” and had to earn his spot back…and another reason it’s been “leaked” that RF is not his for next year…that is, he needs to work to earn the spot.

  63. pinson343

    Since Homer doesn’t qualify for ROY, I’ll give Hanigan the unqualified vote for that (before I had named him ROY hitter). Stubbs would be runnerup.

  64. Steve Price

    broadwaydave: Dan: yes, i understand we have rolen signed for only one more year. here’s why i think he’s worth it: somebody has to teach these kids how to play winning baseball. dusty baker sure as hell cannot do it. from what i know of scott rolen personally he is all about baseball and playing it the right way, something this organization is in dire need of. as for the contract situation, keep in mind that the blue jays paid him for the rest of this year and we are only on the hook for about $7 million next year because we got rid of encarnacion’s contract.
    i agree with your second point. a deal like this shouldn’t be made just to make a deal. i happen to think that this was a good deal. think about it. we get rid of encarnacion (his defense and his contract), we give up roenicke (who ain’t no kid, if he was all that he would never have taken as long as he did to reach the majors) who got shelled in the american league. so really the only thing of value we lost is stewart, who’s proven nothing yet. i would also argue that we have an abundance of young starting pitching. bailey will be a stud for years to come, volquez is due back with a brand new arm in august, matt maloney has proven that he deserves a look next spring, travis wood was one of the best pitchers in all the minor leagues and don’t forget about mike leake, who will be ready before you know it.

    I’m pretty good at math, so I must be missing something, but subtracting Encarnacion’s salary doesn’t make Rolen cheaper…it’s still 11-12 mil for Rolen…if we had both, it would be something like $15 mil, but we don’t have both, we have Rolen and we pay his salary…and Rolen is no more than an average player now when it comes to performance.

    As for leadership, I do think it’s valuable…but, frankly, when I hear the Reds’ players talk, I hear them stating the company line “he brings leadership,” but they also say he doesn’t talk to them. (I believe the phrase was, “he doesn’t say anything”) I’m not saying you’ve got to be a screaming, rah-rah guy to be a leader (I don’t believe you have to be at all), but I have yet to hear a comment of any sort of evidence of what leadership he’s providing. I’ve heard Arroyo say it’s good to have his defense, and that’s good for the pitcher…but, any number of players can play good defense. I think we played better with him, but he’s in serious decline, his offensive skills don’t allow him to be a middle of a lineup hitter (on a good team). It’s a lot of money…and at the time Reds’ improved, they had gotten Votto back, Bailey and Arroyo were lights out, Stubbs had been promoted, Bruce started hitting, and both Rolen and Janish were playing regularly. I think those reasons combined are why we started winning.

    As for Roenicke…he’s been a professional only four years…he’s right on time reaching the majors as a reliever…in fact, I’ve read that scouts say he has a “young” arm…he’s pitched less than 200 professional innings to this point, and he’s got serious pop. I’m not his biggest fan–I think he has limitations–but, pitchers are on a different peak curve than hitters, and he’s in a spot where one little change or advancement could really make a difference in his career. I don’t think Stewart has Cy Young stuff, but I do think he will be a quality pitcher however he’s used.

    As for the Reds staff…there’s absolutely no guarantee that Volquez can come back anywhere near where he was, Harang is in decline, Maloney has a very high home runs allowed rate, and I think Leake ended his college season with an arm injury. I see all sorts of questions, with little on the way to back them up.

    Cueto may still be destined for the bullpen…there’s questions as to whether he can sustain this many innings every year. I do think Bailey will be a stud for years and I think Arroyo’s got a couple more inconsistent but good enough years left as a starter. Wood looks good, and I like his prospects.

    However…after Wood, who do we have in the minors? Lotzkar is injury prone…organizational scouting reports say we have little to no minor league pitching…and we dealt pitchers….meanwhile, we pay millions for Mike Lincoln and other veteran relievers, when we had $400,000 pitchers that we traded…from a business analysis view, it could be said that the cost of paying Rolen may also include the cost of having to paying the veteran relievers that we need to sign since we traded away the young pitchers.

    Oh…I am thinking, too, about the future “inve

  65. Steve Price

    I meant to finish the “future investment” of teaching players to win…that has value; but that can usually be found for much less money…especially since our best prospects seem to all be third basemen…that’s another organizational issue of trading for Rolen…we just built a wall for the majority of our best prospects…

    having talent at a position isn’t necessarily a bad thing…we’ll need to deal some guys for the right pieces, but the biggest increase we got in defense was playing Janish after dealing Gonzo. Rolen and Encarnacion had nearly identical range factors at third base; Rolen makes fewer errors, but that came to essentially one less error every eight games…that’s definitely better no matter how you cut it.

  66. broadwaydave

    @Steve Price: leadership by example is far more effective than the “rah-rah” kind. any idiot can run his mouth. if fact, i would argue that if fewer guys in professional sports would just do their job and stop running their mouths, watching would be a lot more fun.

    i think walt jocketty saw a bunch of error-prone, no-hitting clowns running around on the ballfield and decided to do something about it. clearly his manager wasn’t. in fact, dusty is the head clown. so he decided to bring in the sheriff.

    so scott rolen doesn’t say much. he doesn’t have to.

  67. preach

    I want to change my vote on biggest suprise: Gomes was at least a major leaguer who people knew that he has plenty-o-power if he could make contact. Many people, myself included, didn’t know if Baily would get back on track in a Reds uni. While half a season does not a career make, it is enough to at least give him an award, and this category fits.

  68. preach

    Anyone else watch the Dodger/Cardinal game last night? It’s like watching the Iran/Iraq war a few years back. You don’t want anybody to win.

    Heck of a pitching performance by both starters. Each had some dynamic curve balls working.

  69. Dan

    @broadwaydave: I’ve heard rumblings that it was actually Castellini who insisted on the Rolen deal… and that worries me even more. That’s dysfunctional when your owner (who made his fortune selling fruit) is telling your GM what trade to make.

  70. Dan

    @broadwaydave: Dave, I thought about this a little more last night, and I wanted to ask you about this…

    You’re very quick to write off Stewart (“what has he proven?”), but then you’re hugely optimistic about several of the Reds young arms: “Bailey will be a stud for years to come, volquez is due back with a brand new arm in august, matt maloney has proven that he deserves a look next spring, travis wood was one of the best pitchers in all the minor leagues and don’t forget about mike leake, who will be ready before you know it.”

    How can you be so optimistic about the unproven young arms the Reds still have, but so quick to dismiss Stewart?

  71. broadwaydave

    @Dan: no, no. don’t get me wrong. i’m not writing off stewart at all. he may very well be a quality major league pitcher for years to come. and roenicke might be too. and EE may hit 40 homers next year. all i’m saying is that the reds were presented with an opportunity to improve their baseball team and they took it.

    i’ve been a reds fan for a very long time, through thick and thin. what this franchise has been missing for at least 20 years is a guy who is all baseball, all the time. no fanfare, no extracurricular junk, no mouth running. just a show-up-at-the-park and play ball kind of guy. a soul, if you will. the reds have been losers because everybody (including players and management) expects them to be losers. scott rolen is a proven winner. to me, and i may very well be wrong on this, he is the puzzle piece that has been missing. did the reds pay a too high price for him. maybe. time will tell. i just got a feeling the reds are going to be a winning team next year (in spite of their coaching staff) and i think the attitude of scott rolen will have a lot to do with it.

  72. HoosierRose

    MVP-Votto
    MOP-Cordero (Redstalk is right its not his fault we pay him too much. He is badass)
    ROY-Herrera
    Good Guy-Johnny Gomes. Didn’t make the team in Spring. Could easily have left the club. Stuck around and worked hard instead)
    Surprise-Stubbs/Gomes
    Disappointment-Dusty. It doesn’t matter that I expected the worst. Its just disappointing!

  73. th4433

    NEW IDEA

    Start naming off who you want to be the new pitching coach. LOGICAL ANSWERS ONLY

  74. GregD

    For those of you voting for Taveras as the biggest disappointment, what did you expect from him?

  75. Dan

    GregD: For those of you voting for Taveras as the biggest disappointment, what did you expect from him?

    I expected something like .270/.320/.330 (bad hitter), not .240/.275/.285 (worst regular in baseball).

  76. Dan

    Although… for the record… I ended up voting for Dusty as biggest disappointment, b/c of his off-the-charts stubbornness and unwillingness to take in new information and change.

    If Dusty has decided something, apparently, that belief could be proven wrong 162 straight times, but he’ll still hold onto it. That’s worse than a player having a bad year.

  77. JS

    –Reds MVP-Brandon Phillips. With Votto out, BP carried the team.
    –Most Outstanding Pitcher-Danny Ray Herrera. All-around probably the best pitcher on the team.
    –Rookie of the Year-Danny Ray Herrera (closely followed by Hanigan)
    –Good Guy Award-Aaron Harang (Chris Dickerson a close second)
    –Biggest Surprise-Masset
    –Biggest Disappointment-Jay Bruce. I was not disappointed in Wily T’s performance…I expected it. Bruce was bad at bat.

  78. Steve Price

    broadwaydave: i’ve been a reds fan for a very long time, through thick and thin. what this franchise has been missing for at least 20 years is a guy who is all baseball, all the time. no fanfare, no extracurricular junk, no mouth running. just a show-up-at-the-park and play ball kind of guy.

    Wasn’t Barry Larkin this kind of guy? Criticism of him was that he was just this…instead of being a rah rah guy.

  79. broadwaydave

    @Steve Price: larkin is exactly the kind of guy i’m talking about. in his first 14 seasons (1986-2000) the reds were .500 or better in nine of them, with a world series win, a playoff appearance and a who knows what would have happened season in 1994. we haven’t had a guy like that since. i think rolen is that guy.

    when i wrote we haven’t had a leader for 20 years i meant to say 10.

  80. Dan

    broadwaydave: @Steve Price: larkin is exactly the kind of guy i’m talking about.in his first 14 seasons (1986-2000) the reds were .500 or better in nine of them, with a world series win, a playoff appearance and a who knows what would have happened season in 1994.we haven’t had a guy like that since.i think rolen is that guy.when i wrote we haven’t had a leader for 20 years i meant to say 10.

    But Dave, there are 25 guys on a baseball team, and they all play a fair amount. How’s it even possible for ONE guy to be such a good leader that he turns a losing team into a winning team?

    I’d say that 1986-2000 Reds were pretty good b/c Larkin was a great player, and he had a lot of very good teammates in that time. How can you possibly tell that it was Larkin’s leadership that made them good rather than the fact the players on those teams were just plain good players?

    Secondly… if Rolen’s that good at making his teammates into winners, then why was Toronto 49-54 before the trade this year?

  81. broadwaydave

    @Dan: hell, i can’t prove any of this. all i’m saying is that i like the trade and that i believe it will turn a losing clubhouse culture into a winning one. i think it already has (best record in baseball since rolen came off the dl).

    everybody is always on the reds ownership for not loosening the purse strings a little to improve the team. mr. castellini did just that and he and walt got hammered for it. did they overpay? maybe. but i think it was for the right guy.

  82. Dan

    @broadwaydave: Fair enough.

    Well, you’re a fun “sparring partner,” Dave! You’ll stick w/ the debate and state your case but always keep it civil! I appreciate that… not always how it is in blog-land. 😉

    I still don’t agree w/ you on most of these things, but we’ll know soon enough. I do hope you’re right and that Rolen is The Man!

  83. brublejr

    I have a question…

    Have they completed the Weathers deal yet? I don’t remember hearing any names coming over yet, just wondered if I have missed it or if they haven’t announced it yet.

  84. pinson343

    Broadwaydave and Dan, good debate, good stuff.

    Do I sound like GG, I know everyone misses him already.

    I see both arguments and have been totally conflicted about the trade. I (and I’m sure WJ) didn’t like letting Stewart go. I also liked EE and as a diehard still thought he might blossom with the Reds.

    But I had a good gut feeling about Rolen from the start, in terms of his complementing our young core of talent. You don’t have to call it leadership, it’s about focus, poise, and keeping your head on straight, which leads to more consistency.

    One guy can only make much difference if there’s already a core of talent present, and there is. Thinking of Larkin, he was able to lead (by example) good Reds teams, he wasn’t able to do much with the bad ones. I think this is a team that is ready to be good.

    As much as I liked EE, his bad throws, especially to second base, were driving me (and the pitching staff) crazy. BTW if he corrects this problem in Toronto, that would say something about our coaching staff.

    Bringing in Rolen took a load off Joey’s shoulders, and even BP shut up about being team leader.

    Finally, the quote about Rolen not saying anything has been taken too literally. As far as I know, he is not mute.

  85. David

    So far as i know they have not completed the deals for Weathers or Gonzalez.

    As to the Rolen debate that’s going on… I think far too many teams are placing too much emphasis on young arms. They stockpile these guys in hopes that one or two pan out. That’s a strategy that’s worth something for sure. But the problem with it is there are far too many questions about pitching prospects, not to mention health concerns. I never have a problem selling off young players. Bad teams build for the future. Good teams win now.

  86. Dan

    We got an A-ball shortstop for Gonzalez — Kris Negron, I think.

    But you’re right, I think, that we haven’t gotten anyone for Weathers yet. (At least I don’t remember getting anyone back.)

  87. broadwaydave

    pinson343: You don’t have to call it leadership, it’s about focus, poise, and keeping your head on straight, which leads to more consistency.

    One guy can only make much difference if there’s already a core of talent present, and there is. Thinking of Larkin, he was able to lead (by example) good Reds teams, he wasn’t able to do much with the bad ones. I think this is a team that is ready to be good.

    this is what i’ve been trying to get across, in my own hackneyed fashion. pinson has done so in a much more eloquent and concise way.

  88. GregD

    broadwaydave: all i’m saying is that i like the trade and that i believe it will turn a losing clubhouse culture into a winning one. i think it already has (best record in baseball since rolen came off the dl).

    The Reds fan in me wants to believe this is true

    The unbiased realistic in me says we’ll see in 2010. The Reds also had a winning record after the Dunn trade last year, and many (esp anti-Griffey/anti-Dunn) folks said that this was proof that the team was better without Dunn & Jr and that 2009 would be a good year.

    Finishing on with a strong month does give me a little more optimism than ending on a sour note, but we still have to see that kind of performance turn into consistency over a full 6-month season.

  89. pinson343

    @broadwaydave:

    Wow, thanks. But you’re being too modest. I was able to write a concise statement because I drew from what you wrote.