The Reds and Pirates play again today. It’s the 83rd meeting between the teams this season. I think that’s a record.

It’s Homer Bailey against Kevin Hart. Discuss the game here.

40 Responses

  1. pinson343

    If Homer’s on, he’ll dominate these guys.

  2. Kurt Frost

    WTF! No Taveras again.

    Drew Stubbs 8
    Paul Janish 6
    Joey Votto 3
    Brandon Phillips 4
    Scott Rolen 5
    Jay Bruce 9
    Laynce Nix 7
    Corky Miller 2
    Homer Bailey 1

  3. al

    to add to the discussion of why alex gonzalez is hitting better with the red sox, i checked his position in the boston lineup: 9th.

    it makes me wonder if paul janish might not do better if he was hitting eighth and had a little less pressure on him.

  4. David

    Alex Gonzalez is hitting better because he is the antichrist, destined to set forth a0 plague upon Reds fans and all of mankind.

  5. wanderinredsfan

    Anyone else notice that Homer hasn’t topped 93 on the gun yet? Has thrown 6 curveballs, also.

  6. Y-City Jim

    and the Pirates still can’t hit him.

    Drew Stubbs is a billion light years better than Willy Taveras!

  7. RC

    Man, look at Stubby go!

    Why didn’t we have speed at the top of the lineup from day 1?

  8. al

    soft j with two walks on the night in front of votto. i’ll take that.

  9. al

    agon has a .293./311/.466 line with the sox. he’s not babe ruth, but it’s a big step up from his .560 ops with the reds.

  10. RC

    “soft j” is the kind of nickname that sticks with a fellow.

    And that play in LF looked kinda Mannyesque… was it? (I’m watching the game picture in picture style while the missus watches My Name Is Earl reruns. What a life!)

  11. mike

    al: agon has a .293./311/.466 line with the sox. he’s not babe ruth, but it’s a big step up from his .560 ops with the reds.

    even after adjustment (both Boston and the Reds home stadiums are hitters parks)
    75 OPS+ with the Reds 99 OPS+ with Boston
    99 OPS+ for a SS is good

    even better
    EQA for Gonzo
    .270 w/Boston
    .255 average SS
    .195 w/Cincinnati

  12. Kyle

    Bailey almost fell apart last inning. First time we’ve seen that version of Homer in awhile. He managed to avoid major damage though and it will be interesting to see how he bounces back in the 5th.

  13. Kyle

    This feels weird to type, but the Reds offense is clicking on all cylinders. Stubbs is playing well, no one can get Votto out right now, Phillips is 6 RBI’s from triple digits, and Bruce is starting to produce. Some good ABs from Rolen and Janish as well.

  14. zblakey

    is this a tease to keep us interested durng the winter? looks like next seasons lineup is taking shape

  15. RC

    I would point out that it’s the Pirates… but that would be a total jerky buzzkill thing to do, so I won’t do it.

  16. WORLD

    You’re playing the Pirates. Remember that.

  17. RC

    Great jerky buzzkill minds think alike.

  18. Y-City Jim

    Pirates are going to lose 100 games. I think God is punishing the city for the Steelers and Penguins. 😛

  19. mike

    The Reds are an amazing 16 games OVER .500 vs AZ, Houston and Pitt

    17 games UNDER .500 against everyone else

    The Reds have a team OPS vs the Pirates this season of .791 (highest against any NL team) and a .703 team OPS on the season

  20. RedinFla

    Kyle: Bailey almost fell apart last inning. First time we’ve seen that version of Homer in awhile. He managed to avoid major damage though and it will be interesting to see how he bounces back in the 5th.

    Just logged on — happy with the score but curious about Bailey. How did he look tonight overall?

  21. Steve

    Homer didn’t have his best stuff – no strikeouts and his velocity was down. BUT he navigated the waters and ended up with a quality start. He could have gone another inning, but with the huge lead, Baker did the prudent thing (for a change) and took him out.

  22. RedinFla

    Reds have only scored in double digits five tmes all season, last in MLB…
    T.O.S. 👿

    Makes you wonder what the season could’ve been if some changes had been made, say, at the all-star break.

  23. mike

    RedinFla: happy with the score but curious about Bailey. How did he look tonight overall?

    haven’t watched the whole game but what I saw….
    His velocity was down today but I wondered if that wasn’t on purpose. His control/location at least in the 1st 3 innings was much better. My wonder was, was he staying in the 91-93 range to try and command his pitches better?
    When he lost it it was obvious. He not only had trouble throwing strikes he was missing his spots by a mile. Up 1-2 vs the batter who eventually became his first BB (baserunner) of the night he just lost it. Threw a fastball a 2 feet out of the strikezone, completely botched a curveball that was as high as the batter was tall and then missed his spot a little off the plate with a fastball.

    Even before that my thought was “he doesn’t have his best stuff” but he’s throwing strikes and keeping himself in the game. Then he lost it. But lets not forget this is the Pirates. Their offense is only slightly better than the Reds

  24. mike

    RedinFla: Makes you wonder what the season could’ve been if some changes had been made, say, at the all-star break.

    I’d say if changes had been made to start the season

    1. NO WILLY T! Just start Dickerson in CF, GAME 1. If/when Stubbs was ready, then call him up and Dickerson is your 4th/5th OFer
    2. NO MCDONALD instead of Gomes
    3. Once Gomes showed he was hitting like he has, he because the default LF. Once Gomes showed he was hitting at this level for more than 1-2 months he because the #4 hitter.
    4. Play Hanigan more, all season
    5. Even if Janish can’t hit what did Gonzo have over him? Gonzo had lost it (and now found it in Boston, curious)…just bench Gonzo
    6. Build a lineup that is somewhat close to sane.

  25. Shane

    Makes you wonder if Gonzo wasn’t dogging it to try to get traded

  26. RedinFla

    Hercules (Nix) takes care of the double-digit thing 😆

  27. RedinFla

    It’s interesting that the Pirates have that field mike near the fans. Not exactly happy voices I’m hearing.

  28. RedinFla

    @mike:
    About Homer’s night — I could see him maybe experimenting with the velocity / command issue. Sorry to hear he “lost it”, but glad for the win. He’s matured a lot this season.

  29. RedinFla

    Pirates taking dudes struggling to find words for this game, the season.. They even were talking about that song from The Poseidon Adventure, “There’s Got to be a Morning Afterrrr..” 🙄

    So see, it could be worse.

  30. preach

    Our offense is awesome. Are we back in the divisional race yet? Wildcard?

  31. pinson343

    We’re further from contention than the Pirates ? I knew that was bull.

    I’ll repeat myself about Gonzo, for those who missed it. It’s not unusual for a veteran player on the downside of his career to surge after being traded from a losing team to a contender.
    Next year will probably not be so good for Gonzo.

    Not to mention that, batting 9th for the Red Sox, he’s seeing a lot of fast balls right down the plate, and he likes that. He swings anyway, so it best be right down the plate.

    He’s not as bad as he played for the Reds this year, if management had rehabbed him properly he probably would have been decent.

  32. doktor

    Y-City Jim: Pirates are going to lose 100 games. I think God is punishing the city for the Steelers and Penguins.

    I’d rather god punish the stealers this weekend with a Bengals mauling of them that knocks out Roethlisberger and H Ward….. for the year. 😈

  33. Glenn

    Gonzo doesn’t have many years left in him…good or bad. I’d rather have Paul Janish doing what he’s doing. I think the more he plays the better he’ll get with the stick.

  34. preach

    I don’t know if he will ever be better with the stick, but he will definately be better with a glove much longer than Gonzo.

    Can he play any other position (and don’t say pitcher)? He could turn into Mr. late inning defensive replacement, ala Juan Castro (when Castro could still field). There are worse things to have on the bench than a good defender at multiple infield positions.