Anyone go to Redsfest? Anything else you want to discuss today?

UPDATE: Taylor over at Crosley Field Terrace has a report on his trip to Redsfest. He came away duly impressed with the entire event.

32 Responses

  1. Kurt Frost

    The wife and I talked about going, but then we got up Saturday morning and played XBox instead. Just didn’t feel like driving the 2 hours.

  2. doug

    I went to Redsfest and had a great time as expected. Outside of Walt mentioning the name Willy Taveras, there wasn’t much not going on that I enjoyed. Got some autographs, talked to some really cool people (both players and other fans)…. just a good time.

  3. Deaner

    I went. It was my first RedsFest and I had a great time… definitely worth the price of admission.

    It was nice to get autographs and take photos with the players. I normally catch a stop on the winter caravans to do this, but RedFest was better organized and much less chaotic than the caravan stops. I also go some great deals on merchandise – $2 for a Tom Browning bobblehead, $5 for a Joe Nuxhall T-Shirt.

    One of my favorite parts was watching the kids Q&A session with Bronson Arroyo, Jeff Keppinger, Chris Dickerson, Brandon Phillips, Marty, and the Cowboy. Bronson made a couple of “off color” comments – he called Jeff Keppinger “Jewish” for being cheap and said that Phillips didn’t know anything about hockey because of his skin color.

  4. mhopp

    Did the reds re-sign Norris Hopper? He did bat well over .300 for more than 350 at bats over two seasons. He’d be worth a possibility as a CF/Lead off hitter

  5. Brian

    yeah they resigned hopper and also signed laynce nix to a minor league deal

  6. Mark in CC

    Redsfest was a good time. Some bargains and fun information.

    Wouldn’t it be great if we could sign a starting centerfielder from 2 of the last 4 World Series.

    Oops I guess not, as that would be Willy Taveras.

    I would sign him. He brings to the outfield offensively the same dimension as Ryan Freel, only a little better, he plays better defense and he knows what it is like play on a winner.

    He is the kind of guy the Jocketty/LaRussa combo got a lot of mileage out of over the years.

  7. preach

    I wouldn’t mind having Tavares, but I am afraid that Dusty would put him in the leadoff spot and his OBP just doesn’t lend itself to that. It would be the return of CP.

  8. preach

    If by “off color” you mean anti-semitic and racist, then I agree. I certainly hope that is dealt with. If I was present during the kids session and heard such things I would have been livid. Perhaps Bronson should go play with Cap Anson or Ty Cobb.

  9. Deaner

    Preach, I can assure you that Bronson did not get a good reaction from the crowd after those comments. He also got several rounds of ‘boos’ from the crowd, including one after saying that he would like to play for the Chicago Cubs.

  10. Y-City Jim

    So I think fans are beginning to see Bronson Arroyo may not be the golden boy he was portrayed to be. I personally would like to see him gone. He makes too much for the performance received, and I always thought he made up those comments about Dunn.

  11. Y-City Jim

    Hope for his endorsement sake that JTM finds his comments funny.

  12. Bill

    Uhhh, Chad…no, he doesn’t. The commercials are as bad as their product. Yuck.

  13. Mr. Redlegs

    Get the hell outta here! Arroyo said those things in a public forum and there’s been no backlash from the local media or advocacy organization?

    I’m no choir boy, nor am I a flaming liberal or even picky about political correctness, but those are things you simply cannot say while a.) in a public forum; b.) representing an organization like the Reds; c.) and most of all, in front of kids.

    I cannot believe it has been brushed aside.

  14. Mark in CC

    “He makes too much for the performance received”

    How many 15 game winners are making less than Bronson.

  15. Dallas

    You said:
    #14 Mr. Redlegs
    on Dec 16th, 2008 at 9:26 am
    Get the hell outta here! Arroyo said those things in a public forum and there’s been no backlash from the local media or advocacy organization?

    I’m no choir boy, nor am I a flaming liberal or even picky about political correctness, but those are things you simply cannot say while a.) in a public forum; b.) representing an organization like the Reds; c.) and most of all, in front of kids.

    I cannot believe it has been brushed aside.
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    Yes, racial insensitivity is something new and foreign to our beloved Reds franchise! At least we never had an incredibly vocal, Nazi-sympathizing racist as our owner!

  16. Dallas

    “and I always thought he made up those comments about Dunn.”
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    That’s what all this is about, is it? I mean, we all know you’re a Dunn fan, but come on…. 😉

  17. GregD

    I know Bronson was credited with 15 wins, but we shouldn’t rate a pitcher based on his number of wins. Otherwise you end up with the Eric Miltons and Jimmy Haynes of baseball.

    Look at the different records of Harang and Arroyo, even though they had the same ERA and Harang had a larger % of his starts qualify as quality starts:

    Harang, 4.78ERA, 59% QS, 6-17, 3.5 RS
    Arroyo 4.77era, 53% QS, 15-11, 5.1 RS

    If you allow more runs than the team scores, you end up with a losing record. Even pitching for the same team, supported by the same hitters, a 30-game sample is enough to create quite a disparity in W-L record.

  18. Y-City Jim

    “How many 15 game winners are making less than Bronson.

    The $9.5 million he’ll make this year or the $11 million he’ll make next year? He may have won 15 last year but that 4.74 ERA was far from being worth the money.

  19. Y-City Jim

    Yeah, I am a Dunn fan. Did anyone ever substantiate Arroyo’s comments regarding him? The fact that a 31-year-old makes extremely insensitive comments in public at Redsfest does call his character into place? If so, then shouldn’t all of Arroyo’s comments be scrutinized? The fact that I am a Dunn fan means I questioned the comments at the time they were made and I question them even more now.

  20. John W.

    Perhaps Arroyo said these things in the hopes that he would get traded to another team because of it. He has recently voiced his dissatisfaction with the Reds offense, has he not?

  21. preach

    Hey, work something out with Atlanta for Escobar. Make everyone happy. That’s what I’m about….seeing everyone happy.

  22. Deaner

    If anyone listened to the Reds Hot Stove League show tonight… I called in and questioned Marty about the incident, since he was on stage when Arroyo made the comments. Marty said that most of the players comments were inaudible to him, since he was on the other end of the stage. So he didn’t have a comment.

  23. preach

    I asked, in the most general manner and without specifics, about it on Fay’s blog and got zapped for violating ‘terms of service’.

  24. Phill

    Regarding what Arroyo said while it isn’t a good thing to say that kind of stuff….I’ve definately heard worse in the stands at a game. It definately shouldn’t have been said period and there isn’t an excuse but I will say at least it sounds like it was said with innocent intentions and Arroyo isn’t trying to find his inner Rocker.

  25. Travis G.

    There’s a huge difference between a fan making comments from the stands, Phill, and a player saying what Arroyo reportedly did at a team-sponsored public event. If true, that’s completely uncalled for (not to mention outdated; is Rickles writing his material?) and should be addressed, at least internally, by his employer.

    Also, the Enquirer moderator zapped your comment, preach? Weak.

  26. preach

    Ageed, Travis. Your typical fan in the stands is not on stage, the center of attention, with a microphone in hand at a Kids driven media event.

    And yes, I was zapped. I e-mailed Mark Sheldon. Curious to see if I get a response.

  27. preach

    Just for a followup: Sheldon e-mailed me back and said he wasn’t at that part of the event and that he would look into it. Don’t know what that means, but he did respond. Thought I would post that as a courtesy.

  28. Bill

    preach, thanks for the followup…let us know if Sheldon gets back to you.

  29. Dallas

    “Perhaps Arroyo said these things in the hopes that he would get traded to another team because of it. He has recently voiced his dissatisfaction with the Reds offense, has he not?”
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    Can you blame him? I had more confidence in him at the plate that last year than I did in schmucks like Patterson, Janish, or Bako.