What? The Reds aren’t going to finish with a .500 record? How can that be?

Oh well, the Reds march toward 80-82, beginning tonight against the Brewers. This is the 98th game between Cincinnati and Milwaukee this year. Or so it seems.

Discuss it here.

46 Responses

  1. Phill

    You know what’s funny about the lineups right now? That aside from a now slumping Votto there really isn’t a single player that should bat higher than 7th. Maybe Wilkin Castillo but who knows. Hopefully Razor Ramon Ramirez can get a win tonight.

  2. Dave H.

    Votto and Bruce hit the 20 homer mark!

  3. Dave H.

    Of course, the club leader plays for the D-backs.

  4. Dave H.

    First five Reds batters score. Been a while since that’s happened.

  5. Mike Martz

    🙂

    WOW! the young guns are firing on all cylinders!

  6. mike

    Votto is slumping? His batting average is low but his OPS for the month of September (it’s only been 15 games) is .897

    Here are the Reds OPS leaders in Sept
    1.038 Bruce
    .919 Dickerson
    .897 Votto
    .850 Hairston
    .808 A Phillips
    .804 EE

  7. mike

    Re: Votto and Bruce having 20 HR

    The Reds have/had 5 players this season who are 28 or younger with 20 HR
    Phillips, EE, Dunn, Bruce and Votto

    The Reds have NEVER had 5 players that young with 20 or more HR!

    They have had a few season with 4 players that young having 20 or more HR

    1970 4 Johnny Bench / Tony Perez / Lee May / Bernie Carbo

    1969 4 Tony Perez / Lee May / Bobby Tolan / Johnny Bench

    1956 4 Frank Robinson / Gus Bell / Wally Post / Ed Bailey

  8. Mike Martz

    I was upset that the front office let Griffey and Dunn get away, but I have to admit, the last few weeks have eased the pain. I’m not scared to say that I’m getting kind of excited about watching some of these younger guys mature!

  9. Mike Martz

    Votto hits another Homerun! 6-0 goodguys!

  10. mhopp

    I tuned in on the AM radio in my car here in North Carolina…and it was fuzzy as you can imagine. I was shocked to hear it was the REDS that were ahead 5-0 and not the Brewers. I think that is the first time this year the first Reds 5 players scored?

  11. mhopp

    Gee I’m shocked that Dusty put Crappy P in the line up and shocked that he is 0 for 2! 🙄 ❗

  12. mhopp

    Too bad Crappy Bakerson is not 6′ tall or else he would be even faster…I know that is hard to believe

  13. Phill

    Come on now, the Reds are destroying the Brewers can we not care about Corey Patterson? Votto is beast right now. Another multi-homer game for him. I want to see Prince and Suppon go at it in the dugout!!

  14. Phill

    Opps didn’t realize Parra had been brought in to relieve. I’d still like to see Prince Fielder push somebody in the face again.

  15. Mike Martz

    Hairston with a dinger! 8-0 goodguys!
    Sure hope no one is missing this game! This is very enjoyable to watch!

  16. hammer1

    Feels good to stick it to the Brewers.

  17. mhopp

    September has been good considering there is no post-season chances for Reds. Joey Votto and Ramirez seem to get better late in the seasons.

  18. mhopp

    Would be nice to see Dusty give some of the others a chance to play like Richar, Janish, A. Phillips and especially the under appreciated LLM Valentin

  19. mike

    I was shocked to hear it was the REDS that were ahead 5-0 and not the Brewers. I think that is the first time this year the first Reds 5 players scored?

    I don’t know the answer but I do know the Reds have scored 5 or more runs in the 1st inning only 3 times this year.

    The May 28th game vs the Pirates was pretty close. The Reds scored 6 in the 1st inning and did it the following way
    J Hairston Single to CF (Line Drive)
    J Bruce Wild Pitch; Hairston to 2B
    ” ” Walk
    K Griffey Hairston Steals 3B; Bruce Steals 2B
    ” ” Flyball: LF/Sacrifice Fly (LF Line); Hairston Scores
    B Phillips Groundout: 1B-P (2B-1B); Bruce to 3B
    A Dunn Walk
    E Encarnacion Double to LF (Line Drive to Deep LF Line); Bruce Scores; Dunn to 3B
    J Votto Single to LF (Line Drive to Short LF); Dunn Scores; Encarnacion Scores
    D Ross Votto Steals 2B
    ” ” Home Run (Fly Ball to Deep CF-RF); Votto Scores

    April 27th vs the Giants was close, the first 4 scored. The Reds scored 6 overal line the 1st.
    J Hairston Walk
    C Patterson Single to CF (Ground Ball thru SS-2B); Hairston to 3B
    J Keppinger Patterson Steals 2B
    ” ” Walk
    B Phillips Single to 2B (Pop Fly to Short RF); Hairston Scores; Patterson to 3B; Keppinger to 2B
    E Encarnacion Popfly: 3B (Weak 3B)
    J Votto Single to RF (Line Drive); Patterson Scores; Keppinger Scores/Adv on E9/No RBI; Phillips to 3B; Votto to 2B
    R Freel Single to LF (Line Drive); Phillips Scores; Votto Scores
    P Bako Triple to RF (Fly Ball to Deep CF-RF); Freel Scores

  20. mhopp

    I’m thinking the Reds have 3 of the best little-big guys in the Majors with Cueto (5’10”) , Ramirez (5’10”) and of course Herrera (5’7″)

  21. mike

    I’m thinking the Reds have 3 of the best little-big guys in the Majors with Cueto (5′10″) , Ramirez (5′10″) and of course Herrera (5′7″)

    not even close
    Joey Devine, Billy Wagner, Albert Arias, LINCECUM, Romero, Torres, Colon, Wandy Rodriguez and many other pitchers are under 6′

    42 pitchers with at least 4 innings pitched (Had to include Herrera) this season are under 6′ tall. 20 of them have ERA+ of 100 or better.

  22. mhopp

    Bruce-Votto 2 HR’s in a game…that seems to be a sign of the future!!

  23. mhopp

    Just bought MLB 2008 The show and haven’t opened it yet…anyone know if Votto or Bruce is in there?

  24. Phill

    Not a clue mhopp. They probably are, I’m not sure if PS3 allows game publishers to put out updates for rosters but if they do I’m sure they have them made by now. Actually chances are Votto would be in because he played in the majors last year. Bruce..not sure.

  25. Kevin

    It’s pretty remarkable how different the lineup looks in September compared to the beginning of the season. So many changes have taken place…not a single Reds batter in tonights game has 500 AB and only one (Votto) has 400.

  26. Kevin

    Also, I know that Bruce is in MLB 2k8 under the name “James Bales” and have heard that after a season or two automatically improves to be one of hte best players in the game (a ceiling of 98 or something)

  27. Phill

    Yea in MLB 2K8, Bruce is good but a little weak(they made him slower than Edwin!) but his potential is super high. I just started my second season with my version of the Reds(traded a lot of players) and he’s already in the 90s.

  28. Kevin

    When I get back from Argentina in December I’m going to finally start my Reds franchise in 2k8, I can’t tell you how much I think about the moves I’m gonna make…

  29. mhopp

    Should I take MLB08 The Show back? I’m using PS2 (I know I’m behind the times) and this was more expensive so I figured it to be a better game.

    Phil-John Adkins has been with AAA all year and had 30 saves. He started off really good this year but had some bad outings in the second half that raised his ERA. I followed the Bats and Lookouts at AA all year and the Reds fans really do have much to be excited about in the coming years…I’m just concerned that the manager is not the right one for the job. I think the Reds have some serious depth now.

  30. doug

    A little Jay Bruce tidbit…. here are the last 10 guys to his 21 HR or more at age 21 or younger:

    Jay Bruce – 2008
    Miguel Cabrera – 2004
    Albert Pujols – 2001
    Andruw Jones – 1998
    Alex Rodriguez -1996
    Ken Griffey JR – 1990, 1991
    Juan Gonzalez – 1991
    Ruben Sierra – 1987
    Daryl Strawberry – 1983
    Cal Ripken Jr – 1982

    All of them had 545 at bats or more except for Daryl Strawberry who had 420 that year. Jay currently has 388 at bats. Thats some pretty good company to be in.

  31. Y-City Jim

    The Reds have/had 5 players this season who are 28 or younger with 20 HR
    Phillips, EE, Dunn, Bruce and Votto

    I thought the Dusty supporters said the Reds had no talent and that why Dusty isn’t the brilliant field manager that once was in San Francisco.

  32. Mr. Redlegs

    “I thought the Dusty supporters said the Reds had no talent and that why Dusty isn’t the brilliant field manager that once was in San Francisco.”

    Who’s been the cleanup batter?

    Who’s been the shortstop?

    Who’s been the leadoff?

    Who’s been the catcher?

    Who’s been the No. 5 starter?

    Who comprises the bench?

    Who’s record has been embellished by a hot streak with kids with no pressure on their backs?

    Who’s dumb enough to think the manager is the difference between contending with this year’s roster and injuries, and being mired in 5th place, 21.5 games out of first?

    I see you’ve already spoken.

  33. doug

    Mr Redlegs, I will see what I can do to answer your questions:

    Who’s been the cleanup batter?
    Brandon Phillips, also known as the 4th or 5th best option to hit cleanup behind Votto, Encarnacion, Dunn and maybe Hairston.
    Who’s been the shortstop?
    Jeff Keppinger sadly. Thats not Dusty’s fault in the slightest.
    Who’s been the leadoff?
    Corey Patterson for the most part, also known as the worst option on the team. That is Dusty’s fault, both that he is even on the team and that he was hitting leadoff as the worst option available.
    Who’s been the catcher?
    Paul Bako. That is only kind of Dusty’s fault. Bako sucks a whole lot, but Ross was hurt. However when Ross came back, Bako continued to suck a whole lot and still start. Now Bako is still starting, Ross is gone and the guy who hit .324 in Louisville has been riding the bench most of September for a guy with a 56 OPS+. That is Bakers fault.
    Who’s been the No. 5 starter?
    A whole slew of terrible pitchers. Not Bakers fault at all.
    Who comprises the bench?
    Depends on the day…. but usually it consists of a better option to start for Corey Patterson and Paul Bako. We have a weak bench. Baker makes it stronger by starting players not as good as some guys on the bench.

  34. doug

    Oh, and I don’t think anyone is saying the Reds would compete with this roster with a different manager. That said, a lot of people are saying the Reds would be better with a different manager because odds are Corey Patterson wouldn’t have made the team and Paul Bako wouldn’t have started nearly as often as he has while we may have seen a better optimized lineup as a result of those two not being in it.

  35. Mr. Redlegs

    That’s all nice and obvious, Doug. But who were the substitutes? The people guaranteed to do better? Did the GM From heaven do anything to fix the roster problems? Nooooo.

    So if you don’t have Bako catching, who?

    If you don’t have Patterson on the roster, who?

    Not any options were tossed out there. Options, that is, that were guaranteed to deliver results.

    And for those who say Bruce should have been up to start the season, he didn’t earn it. Two different GMs thought he should get 200 ABs in AAA. Bruce being with the big league club the first six weeks didn’t doom their season.

    Votto, EE and Dunn were tried in the 4-hole. How’d that work out? Hairston? hahahaha.

    Nice one. Guy stays healthy for 8 minutes and a multi-year contract is undoubtedly warranted.

  36. Y-City Jim

    Who’s dumb enough to think the manager is the difference between contending with this year’s roster and injuries, and being mired in 5th place, 21.5 games out of first?

    I would have settled for competitive.

  37. mhopp

    Who’s record has been embellished by a hot streak with kids with no pressure on their backs? Um, actually one player who has been playing significantly better in late August and September is Corey Patterson…I didn’t realize he was a kid with no pressure on his back? The bottom line is that there is a manager that plays personal favorites and not to win at all costs.

  38. Mr. Redlegs

    “. . . and not to win at all costs.”

    Now that is just plain dumb.