The other day, Chris wondered if Chris Dickerson was about to turn into Jon Nunnally. In today’s Cincinnati Enquirer, John Erardi surmises that maybe Dickerson will be Duane Walker.

I don’t like either of those scenarios. If Dickerson eventually settles into what his minor league stats suggest he will, he will be a very good defensive fourth outfielder for a few years, and I will be very happy with that. There is definite value in a player like that.

14 Responses

  1. Kevin

    I won’t be that bummed if Dickerson settles into what his minor league stats suggest he will next year, as long as Bruce settles into what his minor league stats suggest he will too! (.308 .366 .555 compared to 260 .312 .445!).

    Dickerson seems to have what it takes to be a great fourth outfielder. The problem is that the Reds have had a very bad habit of giving 4th outfielders starting jobs in the past 3 years (Freel, Hopper, Hairston….Patterson). I sure hope they go out of house to fill the outfield, but with two open spots, I doubt it. Unfortunately, I bet we see Dickerson as a starter next year.

  2. Kurt Frost

    Jesus Christ can you at least let the guy fall back to earth before you throw dirt on his grave.

  3. Mike

    Some fans are stuck with the negative. If you want an established centerfielder,then spend the money for a name like we did for our manager. If not, let Dickerson prove himself like he’s done so far.

  4. Chad

    Whatever. You know, it’s possible to enjoy what Dickerson is doing now (which I am) while not burying your head in the sand and believing that Dickerson is all of a sudden going to become a star on the major league level.

    No one has ever played significantly better at the major league level than they did in the minors. If you want to believe that Dickerson will be the first, feel free, but you are wrong. Period.

    Now, in a platoon situation, Dickerson could start against lefties for the next three years and be productive. But if you are counting on him to be the regular starter against lefties and righties, just because he’s had a few good games lately, well, it ain’t gonna happen.

    Geez, can’t someone be realistic around here without accusations of negativity? I like Dickerson, but he is what he is. Just like with Dunn, appreciate him for the abilities he has, but don’t expect anything more.

  5. Kurt Frost

    If he can lead off and hit .260, have an OBP of .360, slug .450, steal 30 bases and play good defense in centerfield, that’s not bad for league minimum.

  6. doug

    Chad, I wouldn’t go as far as saying no one has played significantly better in the majors than they did in the minors, but it is a very rare occasion when it does happen.

    Dickerson just isn’t the type of guy who does that though. He strikes out nearly 30% of the time he steps to the plate and guys like that who succeed are walking 100 times and hitting 40+ Hr’s.

    Kurt, if Dickerson can hit .260/.360/.450 and steal 30 bases and play good defense in CF he would be one of the best 3 or 4 centerfielders in baseball. An .810 OPS from a centerfielder is WELL above average. Give that player above average defense and he would be one of the best in the league. I just don’t think he has that in him with the amount of strikeouts he brings to the table, its going to be real tough for him to keep up his record pace.

  7. Chad

    Maybe I’m wrong; I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not correct all the time, but…

    …can you name one player who was significantly better in the majors than they were in the minors? I can’t.

  8. doug

    Matt Holliday had a .776 career OPS in the minors. He was always a toolsy athlete. When it clicked the Rockies wasted no time in calling him up and he has gone wild almost ever since.

  9. doug

    Another example would be Geovanny Soto. He had a real big year last year in AAA, but before then he never hit much. Even with his insane year last year, his career OPS was .784 in the minors.

  10. mike

    Maybe I’m wrong; I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not correct all the time, but…

    …can you name one player who was significantly better in the majors than they were in the minors? I can’t.

    it has happened…..youth is a strange thing. But that is the key. It HAS NOT happened when the player gets to the big leagues at this late of an age.

    A while back I looked at some similar players because of all the talk of Keppinger last year. The little bit of research I did was nicely posted on this web site.

    https://redlegnation.com/2007/08/22/more-keppinger/

    but it can happen for young players, just not 26+ year olds

    and sadly, since I like Keppinger (and Dickerson) notice the HORRIBLE year Keppinger is having. Keppinger has been one of the worst hitters in the majors this season

    Not how many Reds or ex-Reds are among the worst hitters this year who get lots of playing time.

    WORST
    1 Jeff Francoeur -29
    2 Corey Patterson -27
    3 Michael Bourn -26
    4 Jose Castillo -24
    5 Miguel Tejada -23
    T6 Omar Vizquel -22
    T6 Paul Bako -22
    8 Khalil Greene -21
    T9 Wily Mo Pena -20
    T9 Austin Kearns -20

    T9 Carlos Ruiz -20
    T9 Jeff Keppinger -20
    T9 Willy Taveras -20

  11. mike

    Maybe I’m wrong; I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not correct all the time, but…

    …can you name one player who was significantly better in the majors than they were in the minors? I can’t.

    it has happened…..youth is a strange thing. But that is the key. It HAS NOT happened when the player gets to the big leagues at this late of an age.

    one more addition to this and someone already mentioned him. Holliday is a great example of a player who was never a prospect and didn’t hit well in the minors who is producing at a very high level.
    Of course, he still made it to the bigs 2 full years ahead of Dickerson. There is a big difference between a player making it by age 24 and a player making it by 26

  12. Flash

    I think Dickerson might do well in the majors. This past spring he changed his batting stance. At the first of the year he did horribly. Then he settled in and really started tearing up the IL. His numbers in June and July were really impressive.