Daedalus is torn, as you might expect with a Reds/Nats trade.
Marc thinks the trade is questionable, at best.
Red Hot Mama is baffled. Me too.
Daryl at Raising Reds trusts Wayne Krivsky. After yesterday, after Joe Mays, after Juan Castro…I’m finding it hard to trust the man.
Some Reds hearts are aching today.
As of press time, JD hasn’t really weighed in with an opinion, but there is some good discussion in his comment section.
Meanwhile, there are some great comments at the Baseball Primer link mentioned below:
I believe I have strong powers of empathy; I can imagine why people do awful, unspeakable things. I cannot imagine why the Reds made this trade. Literally, I can’t even come up with a bad reason they might have used to justify it. Royce Clayton’s hair?
As a Cardinals fan, this is awesome. But this isn’t one of those trades where you can see how somebody without a sabermetric background might like it–I don’t know how anybody could possibly think this makes any sense whatsoever for the Reds.
Until now, I thought Krivsky had made some nice, small moves in his short tenure. This is mind boggling.
I just traded my dirty undies and a big ball of lint to the Reds for Adam Dunn, Brandon Phillips and Bronson Arroyo.
Wow. Just wow. How dumb does one have to be to lose to Jim Bowden ?
Is this the worst trade ever?
I’m having a tough time thinking of a trade LESS defensible than this one… Even the Kazmir trade – at least you could wiggle out using the TINSTAAPP principle.
Certainly – there are bad trades in retrospect, but I honestly cannot recall a trade a that looked this god awful when it was made.
If nothing else, I think this guarantees that no matter how bad the Cubs get, there will always be the Reds to show they can get worse.
If this trade happened in my strat-o-matic league, I’d protest.
As a Reds fan, I appreciate the effort to explain what the Reds were thinking. But this seems to be the equivalent of a sixteenth-century physician bleeding the patient to death in order to try to save him. It’s indefensible. As a trade, I know it doesn’t compare in historical importance, but the feeling in the pit of my stoumach right now is probably similar to how you felt when the Mets traded Tom Seaver to the Reds…
Indefensible. Bray and Majewski are both young relievers, true, but they are still just relievers. Majewski’s BB/SO ratio is unimpressive, as is Bray’s. Royce Clayton is an old and getting older shortstop who does not hit and whose defensive reputation far outstrips his actually contribution with the leather. Brendan Harris is a 25 year old bad 2nd baseman who has shown little ability to hit well enough to play anywhere else (he has hit well in the past in the minors, but last year posted a .270 .329 .417 line in 517 AB), and Brandon Phillips blocks the way at 2nd, Encarnation at 3rd (I think there’s a good possibilty that Clayton is now the starter at SS and that Freel, not Denorfia will take over for Kearns). Daryl Thompson is not a can’t miss pitching prospect and has some definite injury concerns.
The Nationals get an excellent corner outfielder who can probably handle center whose hitting .274 .351 .492 and is still on the upside of his career. A shortstop whose putting up a decent offensive line, and whose defense is comparable to the person he’s replacing and a minor-league reliever who throws hard, but is otherwise unimpressive.
In other words, Bowden fleeces his former team.
I have no feelings about the Reds. I neither like them, nor dislike them. But this is so bad I feel sick. I will never hear or read Wayne Krivsky’s name again without getting this feeling.
I will say one thing. I am going to watch Baseball Tonight for the first time since Valentine left, just because I know these guys will say the Reds are making a push and you have to have a strong bullpen down the stretch. They will love this trade. It will be classic.
But while the Reds had “some” offense to give it really isn’t as much as folks think. The Hatteberg/Aurilia platoon has wildly exceeded expectations as has Brandon Phillips AND David Ross. That’s FOUR guys playing way over what anyone anticipated. As much as I want to think otherwise Junior is an injury waiting to happen. That’s five. Kearns and Lopez are now gone. That’s seven.
So four players are likely to regress, one will be lucky to maintain based on previous history, and two have been eliminated. The kid from Triple A looks good but will have an adjustment period. Clayton is cipher. So that dumps it on Dunn, Encarnacion, and Freel to hold the fort on CREATING runs. That’s a lot to ask.
I have been a Kearns believer since I first saw him in Dayton. Injuries, the Reds jerking him around, and being stupid about his weight have cost him. But if he drops 15 and maintains his health Kearns is a .290/.370/.550 season waiting to happen. Lopez ain’t the greatest out there with the glove but he sure does do a lot of GOOD things elsewhere. Mike nailed it on Wager. Kid’s fallen down and can’t get up. But it being the Reds organization maybe he finds himself. Maybe.
Between Krivsky’s acquisition of Castro and Steady Eddie and now this Reds fans have to wonder.
As a Brewers fan, I will just hush and be d*mn glad for Doug Melvin………………..
That’s all I can take. I’m going to find a stiff drink.