Can the Reds continue their winning ways? They’ll have to overcome another double play grounded into by Sean Casey in the first inning if they want to win this one.

That’s 21 for St. Casey, still on pace to shatter the all-time Major League record for grounding into double plays.

14 Responses

  1. Chris

    So, is Milton increasing his trade value, or is he pitching his way to sticking around? Given O’Brien’s timidity, I bet Milty’s “resurgence” is credited to Vern Ruhle and they both stick around.

  2. Chad

    With every start by Milton, it’s becoming increasingly clear that the problem was Gullett. As suspected.

  3. Glenn

    Good question Chris. Milton is pitching better but I still don’t think anyone out there wants to tote around his salary. I think in all likelihood, he’s sticking around.
    Weathers is working on a job elsewhere. I can’t imagine the Reds wouldn’t want to trade his 35 year old arm off for a couple of prospects.

  4. Scott

    Milton looks like a guy, finally, who I would like to see my favorite guy running out to the mind every 5 days.

  5. Chris

    Funny, Chad. I’ve been so disgusted by Royce Clayton that for the last 2-3 seasons, I’ve had to fast-forward through his at-bats. I don’t know what it is about him – his goose neck, his braids, or that dumb expression – but I hvae some sort of visceral reaction to his face in my living room.

  6. Chad

    Ditto. Clayton might be my least favorite player in all of baseball.

    Other than Danny Graves, of course.

  7. Blue

    This is the wrong thread for this, but given the players that the Reds should trade, (Casey, Randa, Aurila, Mercker, Weathers,) why not trade for young relief pitchers, particularly lefthanded ones? The players we should trade aren’t going to get us front line starting pitching prospects, but we could really stack the bullpen if we traded for the best AA and AAA lefty relievers we could find.

    I think Bobby Basham and Josh Hall can come up and perform in the majors by the end of the season. My rotation would be Claussen, Harang, Milton, Basham, Hall. The bullpen would be Booker, Wagner, Belisle, Coffey, and three young lefties aquired via trade.

    Does anyone else think this team isn’t far away from being competing for the division next season, despite their terrible record this season?

  8. Glenn

    I agreed 100%. The Reds position players are pretty good. Its the pitching staff thats holding up success. In fact its the pitching that’s making the 2005 Reds a bad club. As you guys know, I’m still not sold on trading Casey so that Kearns can be an everyday player, but I’m onboard with the other trades you’ve mentioned. The Reds need to assemble a reliable pitching staff. I’d go out on a limb here and predict that if OB doesn’t make great strides toward doing just that, with these all-star break trades, he’ll be looking for a new job next season.

  9. Greg

    I pointed this out last week. The Reds rank 1st (OPS) and 2nd (runs scored) in NL offense, but have the worst pitching in the league, even worse than Colorado.

    Basham and Hall ain’t gonna cut it. They need to fire O’Brien, he obviously cannot evaluate pitchers. They need to cut bait on Milton, even if they have to pay part of his salary.

    I don’t think they have the pitching to win next year if they stick to guys in house….Lindner will have to approve another high payroll (unlikely) AND the GM will have to sign the right guys.

    It is always a matter of cheapness with the Reds. They went out and spent $15 this season for the 3 Stooges, wheras they could have spent $20 million for Pedro and Clement. So, will the Reds continue to be cheap in 2006? Spending just under what they need to spend to get the bring in the pest pitchers? Cutting back payroll spending money this year didn’t work?

  10. Chris W

    Watching the game on tv yesterday, Grande pointed out that the Reds have scored 4 or less runs in something like 42 games so far this year. If I recall correctly, he seemed to blame the offense for some of our problems.

    This comment came up around the same time the Reds were leaving guys on base, especially scoring position, and the graphic about how the Reds are 14th in the NL in BA with RISP.

    It seems to me, that if a team scores 4 runs a game, they should still win a majority of those games and it is the pitching’s fault if we lose.

    Obviously in yesterday’s game, the offense was the culprit in the loss. But how many times can we blame the pitching this season?

  11. Matt

    they are 14th in OBA but 1 and 14 are only a few points apart.

    They are near the top in Runs Scored with RISP…which is what is important.

    Who gives a shit about their batting average, do they score runs?

    Grande is an idiot

  12. Matt

    that should say batting average, not OBA

  13. Chris W

    Agreed about Grande. It seems to me that 90% if not more of broadcasters today are stuck in the past regarding baseball statistics.